Let's Look at the Numbers

[dilligaf]

In 2022, there were 20,958 homicides by gunshot.

We know that many of those homicides were committed by one criminal, so this means there were NOT 20,958 murderers doing their thin.

Homicide simply means the killing of a human being by another, so that number includes lawful self-defense by civilians and police officers.

Therefore, we can safely say that at most, there were 20,000 or less people who used guns to murder someone.

There are at least 72,000,000 lawful gun owners in the U.S., and that figure is only approximate because a lot of gun owners will not come out and SAY they own guns.
I would say that 20,000 is a much lower number than 72 MILLION.

There are over 336 MILLION people in the United States, most of whom are not forbidden by law from owning a gun.

So what do we get from these numbers?

One obvious conclusion:

It is evil to try and curtail the rights of 72 million known, and 336 million potential, gun owners because a small minority of the population behaves badly with guns.

[Panama pfRedd]

Apr 22, 2023 14:44:20 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

In 2022, there were 20,958 homicides by gunshot.

We know that many of those homicides were committed by one criminal, so this means there were NOT 20,958 murderers doing their thin.

Homicide simply means the killing of a human being by another, so that number includes lawful self-defense by civilians and police officers.

Therefore, we can safely say that at most, there were 20,000 or less people who used guns to murder someone.

There are at least 72,000,000 lawful gun owners in the U.S., and that figure is only approximate because a lot of gun owners will not come out and SAY they own guns.
I would say that 20,000 is a much lower number than 72 MILLION.

There are over 336 MILLION people in the United States, most of whom are not forbidden by law from owning a gun.

So what do we get from these numbers?

One obvious conclusion:

It is evil to try and curtail the rights of 72 million known, and 336 million potential, gun owners because a small minority of the population behaves badly with guns.

If you are directing this at emotional, unreasonable, not-facing-reality Mike of oHIo then it's going to fall on deaf ears. He'll only see it as he wants to see it, which is WAYYYYYY far away from reality.

[Walter]

Apr 22, 2023 19:03:03 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Apr 22, 2023 14:44:20 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

In 2022, there were 20,958 homicides by gunshot.

We know that many of those homicides were committed by one criminal, so this means there were NOT 20,958 murderers doing their thin.

Homicide simply means the killing of a human being by another, so that number includes lawful self-defense by civilians and police officers.

Therefore, we can safely say that at most, there were 20,000 or less people who used guns to murder someone.

There are at least 72,000,000 lawful gun owners in the U.S., and that figure is only approximate because a lot of gun owners will not come out and SAY they own guns.
I would say that 20,000 is a much lower number than 72 MILLION.

There are over 336 MILLION people in the United States, most of whom are not forbidden by law from owning a gun.

So what do we get from these numbers?

One obvious conclusion:

It is evil to try and curtail the rights of 72 million known, and 336 million potential, gun owners because a small minority of the population behaves badly with guns.

If you are directing this at emotional, unreasonable, not-facing-reality Mike of oHIo then it's going to fall on deaf ears. He'll only see it as he wants to see it, which is WAYYYYYY far away from reality.

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

[dilligaf]

Apr 22, 2023 19:03:03 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Apr 22, 2023 14:44:20 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

In 2022, there were 20,958 homicides by gunshot.

We know that many of those homicides were committed by one criminal, so this means there were NOT 20,958 murderers doing their thin.

Homicide simply means the killing of a human being by another, so that number includes lawful self-defense by civilians and police officers.

Therefore, we can safely say that at most, there were 20,000 or less people who used guns to murder someone.

There are at least 72,000,000 lawful gun owners in the U.S., and that figure is only approximate because a lot of gun owners will not come out and SAY they own guns.
I would say that 20,000 is a much lower number than 72 MILLION.

There are over 336 MILLION people in the United States, most of whom are not forbidden by law from owning a gun.

So what do we get from these numbers?

One obvious conclusion:

It is evil to try and curtail the rights of 72 million known, and 336 million potential, gun owners because a small minority of the population behaves badly with guns.

If you are directing this at emotional, unreasonable, not-facing-reality Mike of oHIo then it's going to fall on deaf ears. He'll only see it as he wants to see it, which is WAYYYYYY far away from reality.

I'm directing those FACTS at anyone who has a functioning brain.

[dilligaf]

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:03:03 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

If you are directing this at emotional, unreasonable, not-facing-reality Mike of oHIo then it's going to fall on deaf ears. He'll only see it as he wants to see it, which is WAYYYYYY far away from reality.

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Oh look!  Another totally brainless loon who didn't bother to read the original post and understand what it is about.
There was absolutely no mention of the few high-profile tragedies that leftwingers use to stand on those dead children's bodies and wail about "EVIL GUNS."     That was a deliberate omission, since mass shootings do not account for the majority of bullet-induced killings.

They don't want to know WHY the kook did what he did, and many times the kook criminal is killed, so we don't get to ask him why.

All Demonrats worry about is trying to erode our Second Amendment RIGHTS.
They can't offer up a constitutional law that would stop all killings.

I have challenged every loony lieberal here to write such a law that would make it past the Supreme Court.

[Walter]

Apr 23, 2023 2:13:18 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Oh look!  Another totally brainless loon who didn't bother to read the original post and understand what it is about.
There was absolutely no mention of the few high-profile tragedies that leftwingers use to stand on those dead children's bodies and wail about "EVIL GUNS."     That was a deliberate omission, since mass shootings do not account for the majority of bullet-induced killings.

They don't want to know WHY the kook did what he did, and many times the kook criminal is killed, so we don't get to ask him why.

All Demonrats worry about is trying to erode our Second Amendment RIGHTS.
They can't offer up a constitutional law that would stop all killings.

I have challenged every loony lieberal here to write such a law that would make it past the Supreme Court.

Blah, blah, blah...

Bottom line: You accept young kids getting blown away by guns as the price society must pay for unrestricted 2A rights.

Just admit it.

[Panama pfRedd]

Apr 23, 2023 2:13:18 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Oh look!  Another emotional, unreasonable totally brainless loon who didn't bother to read the original post and understand what it is about.
There was absolutely no mention of the few high-profile tragedies that leftwingers use to stand on those dead children's bodies and wail about "EVIL GUNS."     That was a deliberate omission, since mass shootings do not account for the majority of bullet-induced killings.

They don't want to know WHY the kook did what he did, and many times the kook criminal is killed, so we don't get to ask him why.

All Demonrats worry about is trying to erode our Second Amendment RIGHTS.
They can't offer up a constitutional law that would stop all killings.

I have challenged every loony lieberal here to write such a law that would make it past the Supreme Court.

FIFY

[Walter]

Apr 23, 2023 9:58:48 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Apr 23, 2023 2:13:18 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Oh look!  Another emotional, unreasonable totally brainless loon who didn't bother to read the original post and understand what it is about.
There was absolutely no mention of the few high-profile tragedies that leftwingers use to stand on those dead children's bodies and wail about "EVIL GUNS."     That was a deliberate omission, since mass shootings do not account for the majority of bullet-induced killings.

They don't want to know WHY the kook did what he did, and many times the kook criminal is killed, so we don't get to ask him why.

All Demonrats worry about is trying to erode our Second Amendment RIGHTS.
They can't offer up a constitutional law that would stop all killings.

I have challenged every loony lieberal here to write such a law that would make it past the Supreme Court.

FIFY

Bottom line: You accept young kids getting blown away by guns as the price society must pay for unrestricted 2A rights.

Just admit it.

[AlaCowboy]

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:03:03 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

If you are directing this at emotional, unreasonable, not-facing-reality Mike of oHIo then it's going to fall on deaf ears. He'll only see it as he wants to see it, which is WAYYYYYY far away from reality.

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Wally and his trans sister Nie der hut have been rather silent about the trans that went on a shooting rampage and killed children and adults. They also care nothing for the black adults and children killed every day by black and hispanic gangs in Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Washington, DC, and other Democrat-run cities.

[Panama pfRedd]

Apr 24, 2023 8:47:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Wally and his trans sister Nie der hut have been rather silent about the trans that went on a shooting rampage and killed children and adults. They also care nothing for the black adults and children killed every day by black and hispanic gangs in Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Washington, DC, and other Democrat-run cities.

Leftist pick and choose vermin.

[Walter]

Apr 24, 2023 8:47:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Wally and his trans sister Nie der hut have been rather silent about the trans that went on a shooting rampage and killed children and adults. They also care nothing for the black adults and children killed every day by black and hispanic gangs in Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Washington, DC, and other Democrat-run cities.

Luckily, you and gun nuts like you issued 'thoughts and prayers' to the families of the dead, so it's all good.

[dilligaf]

Apr 23, 2023 9:33:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 23, 2023 2:13:18 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Oh look!  Another totally brainless loon who didn't bother to read the original post and understand what it is about.
There was absolutely no mention of the few high-profile tragedies that leftwingers use to stand on those dead children's bodies and wail about "EVIL GUNS."     That was a deliberate omission, since mass shootings do not account for the majority of bullet-induced killings.

They don't want to know WHY the kook did what he did, and many times the kook criminal is killed, so we don't get to ask him why.

All Demonrats worry about is trying to erode our Second Amendment RIGHTS.
They can't offer up a constitutional law that would stop all killings.

I have challenged every loony lieberal here to write such a law that would make it past the Supreme Court.

Blah, blah, blah...

Bottom line: You accept young kids getting blown away by guns as the price society must pay for unrestricted 2A rights.

Just admit it.

Wrong!

Not a single child or adult has been killed by a gun.

They have been killed by CRIMINALS who misuse inanimate tools.

Quote me a single law that has prevented a murder.

Quote me a single law that criminals will willingly obey if it interferes with what they want to accomplish.

You are wrong and refuse to admit that gun ownership (ANY gun) is not to blame.

Just admit it.

[Walter]

Apr 24, 2023 18:16:16 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 23, 2023 9:33:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Blah, blah, blah...

Bottom line: You accept young kids getting blown away by guns as the price society must pay for unrestricted 2A rights.

Just admit it.

Wrong!

Not a single child or adult has been killed by a gun.

They have been killed by CRIMINALS who misuse inanimate tools.

Quote me a single law that has prevented a murder.

Quote me a single law that criminals will willingly obey if it interferes with what they want to accomplish.

You are wrong and refuse to admit that gun ownership (ANY gun) is not to blame.

Just admit it.

Dance all you like.
Bottom line: Dead little kids.
'Thoughts and Prayers' and hope you didn't sell your gun to the maniac who kills them, cuz hope is all you've got.

[dilligaf]

Apr 24, 2023 8:47:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Apr 22, 2023 19:07:25 GMT -5 Walter said:

Emotional? Unreasonable?
All because a bunch of little kids are murdered by a (formerly) good guy with an AR purchased legally?

Geez...What a jerk.

Wally and his trans sister Nie der hut have been rather silent about the trans that went on a shooting rampage and killed children and adults. They also care nothing for the black adults and children killed every day by black and hispanic gangs in Chicago, Oakland, Detroit, Washington, DC, and other Democrat-run cities.

And to further expand on that, how much has Black Lives Matter contributed to rebuilding black-owned businesses in black neighborhoods that black people looted and destroyed?

How many meals and other necessities have they delivered to the black families who no longer have a store within easy walking distance?

Demonrats don't give a DAMN about black or "colored" people, and thankfully blacks, Hispanics, etc. are waking up to that FACT.

[dilligaf]

Apr 24, 2023 18:20:43 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 24, 2023 18:16:16 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Wrong!

Not a single child or adult has been killed by a gun.

They have been killed by CRIMINALS who misuse inanimate tools.

Quote me a single law that has prevented a murder.

Quote me a single law that criminals will willingly obey if it interferes with what they want to accomplish.

You are wrong and refuse to admit that gun ownership (ANY gun) is not to blame.

Just admit it.

Dance all you like.
Bottom line: Dead little kids.
'Thoughts and Prayers' and hope you didn't sell your gun to the maniac who kills them, cuz hope is all you've got.

Thanks for admitting you are totally wrong, and all you have is regurgitating Demonrat bullshit.

Unless somebody tells me "I am going to buy your gun and then use it to commit a crime," I have ZERO responsibility over what he does with.

NO legitimate gun owner is going to sell a gun to a person he deems as "shady."

By contrast, you can NOT stop an FFL holding store from selling a gun to a guy who the clerk thinks is shady.  If he passes the MANDATED background check, he gets the gun.

You see, it is NOT how the gun is obtained that matters.  What DOES matter is that if it is used in a criminal matter.

You keep failing, but you keep coming back to get knocked down again.

WHY?

Until you start supporting laws that severely punish people who misuse guns, you have nothing of value to add to this conversation.