Trump-- 'You Won't Believe' What's in Classified JFK Files'

[DrSchadenfreude]

Trump Told Roger Stone He 'Won't Believe' What's in Classified JFK Files
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July 5, 2023

Roger Stone, a GOP political operative and close confidant of Donald Trump, said that the former president told him classified documents pertaining to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy are "so horrible you wouldn't believe it."

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) finished its records review on Friday, in accordance with a memo by President Joe Biden that instructed the posting of documents containing new information associated with the President John F. Kennedy (JFK) Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Friday that 99 percent of records associated with the assassination are available for public consumption through NARA. Biden has declassified more than 16,000 related documents since 2021, including 1,103 last week, and more than 2,600 overall since December 2022.

"Even he, Trump, held back 20 percent of the documents," Stone told Jack Posobiec of Human Events, part of the GOP nonprofit Turning Point USA. "When I had the occasion to ask him about that, I said, 'Why didn't you let it all out?'

"He said, 'I can't tell you, it's so horrible you wouldn't believe it. Someday you'll find out.' That was the sum total of it and he didn't want to talk further about it. He kicked the can down the road to President Joe Biden."

A spokesperson for the presidential campaign of Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr., JFK's nephew, told Newsweek on Tuesday: "We will never know for sure until these documents are made public in full. After 60 years, there are no national security concerns. The American people deserve to know their own history."

As a result of congressional passage of the JFK Records Act of 1992, the release of related records had to occur by October 2017.

Trump did not start declassifying JFK-related records until after October 2017, citing intelligence agencies and sources potentially being compromised. He reportedly declassified tens of thousands of documents during his term.

Documents released in December offered some new insight into alleged JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald and how he was being surveilled by the CIA, as well as his involvement with the agency on an operation months before the killing.

But historians have expressed a lukewarm reaction to the documents as providing a wider glimpse into JFK's death.

Stone said he asked Trump in the early stages of his presidency what he would do with JFK-related records.

Weeks before the scheduled release date in 2017, Trump allegedly asked Stone, "Why hasn't anyone brought this to my attention?"

When Trump told Stone that said sources and methods would be exposed, Stone responded that most sources are dead and that the public deserved to know the details.

Newsweek reached out to Stone by text message for comment.

"As I have reiterated throughout my Presidency, I fully support the Act's aim to maximize transparency by disclosing all information in records concerning the assassination, except when the strongest possible reasons counsel otherwise," Biden said in a memo released Friday by the White House in accordance with NARA's records release.

Biden added that acting archivist Colleen Shogan told him the process was complete and recommended that he postpone the public release of certain redacted information in the records certified as part of the December 2022 memo.

Biden was also instructed by NARA to provide its National Declassification Center (NDC) with transparency plans that will be used "to ensure appropriate continued release of information as specific identified harm dissipates, then triggering public disclosure."

"I have every confidence that the NDC's implementation of these plans offers a clear path forward for public transparency and the timely release of additional information as circumstances warrant," Shogan said in a statement.

[daleko]

Jul 5, 2023 20:13:55 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Trump Told Roger Stone He 'Won't Believe' What's in Classified JFK Files
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-told-roger-stone-he-won-t-believe-what-s-in-classified-jfk-files/ar-AA1dtvCx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0548397df7ac4885a4af5dc4288478c7&ei=16

July 5, 2023

Roger Stone, a GOP political operative and close confidant of Donald Trump, said that the former president told him classified documents pertaining to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy are "so horrible you wouldn't believe it."

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) finished its records review on Friday, in accordance with a memo by President Joe Biden that instructed the posting of documents containing new information associated with the President John F. Kennedy (JFK) Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Friday that 99 percent of records associated with the assassination are available for public consumption through NARA. Biden has declassified more than 16,000 related documents since 2021, including 1,103 last week, and more than 2,600 overall since December 2022.

"Even he, Trump, held back 20 percent of the documents," Stone told Jack Posobiec of Human Events, part of the GOP nonprofit Turning Point USA. "When I had the occasion to ask him about that, I said, 'Why didn't you let it all out?'

"He said, 'I can't tell you, it's so horrible you wouldn't believe it. Someday you'll find out.' That was the sum total of it and he didn't want to talk further about it. He kicked the can down the road to President Joe Biden."

A spokesperson for the presidential campaign of Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr., JFK's nephew, told Newsweek on Tuesday: "We will never know for sure until these documents are made public in full. After 60 years, there are no national security concerns. The American people deserve to know their own history."

As a result of congressional passage of the JFK Records Act of 1992, the release of related records had to occur by October 2017.

Trump did not start declassifying JFK-related records until after October 2017, citing intelligence agencies and sources potentially being compromised. He reportedly declassified tens of thousands of documents during his term.

Documents released in December offered some new insight into alleged JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald and how he was being surveilled by the CIA, as well as his involvement with the agency on an operation months before the killing.

But historians have expressed a lukewarm reaction to the documents as providing a wider glimpse into JFK's death.

Stone said he asked Trump in the early stages of his presidency what he would do with JFK-related records.

Weeks before the scheduled release date in 2017, Trump allegedly asked Stone, "Why hasn't anyone brought this to my attention?"

When Trump told Stone that said sources and methods would be exposed, Stone responded that most sources are dead and that the public deserved to know the details.

Newsweek reached out to Stone by text message for comment.

"As I have reiterated throughout my Presidency, I fully support the Act's aim to maximize transparency by disclosing all information in records concerning the assassination, except when the strongest possible reasons counsel otherwise," Biden said in a memo released Friday by the White House in accordance with NARA's records release.

Biden added that acting archivist Colleen Shogan told him the process was complete and recommended that he postpone the public release of certain redacted information in the records certified as part of the December 2022 memo.

Biden was also instructed by NARA to provide its National Declassification Center (NDC) with transparency plans that will be used "to ensure appropriate continued release of information as specific identified harm dissipates, then triggering public disclosure."

"I have every confidence that the NDC's implementation of these plans offers a clear path forward for public transparency and the timely release of additional information as circumstances warrant," Shogan said in a statement.

Q. Do you believe a POTUS can see any classified document he wishes?

[DrSchadenfreude]

Daleko,

      As a footnote to this Trump/JFK records story, I've been discussing the case with the attorney who is currently suing the Biden administration to enforce the JFK Records Act.

      He has obtained Trump White House memos from 2017, and he said that people in the Trump administration were discussing their plan to block the release of the JFK records in 2017, even before Trump boldly announced that he was going to release all of the records-- before abruptly "changing his mind."

      This attorney claims that Trump made up the story about "horrible things" in the records so that he wouldn't look like an idiot for contradicting himself and blocking their release.

[daleko]

Jul 8, 2023 11:41:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Daleko,

      As a footnote to this Trump/JFK records story, I've been discussing the case with the attorney who is currently suing the Biden administration to enforce the JFK Records Act.

      He has obtained Trump White House memos from 2017, and he said that people in the Trump administration were discussing their plan to block the release of the JFK records in 2017, even before Trump boldly announced that he was going to release all of the records-- before abruptly "changing his mind."

      This attorney claims that Trump made up the story about "horrible things" in the records so that he wouldn't look like an idiot for contradicting himself and blocking their release.

So Trump has never read the classified files. I knew that. Why didn't you? Did you think he had taken files he didn't have access to? Boy that was stupid. A POTUS doesn't have access to anything and everything. By extension, Roger Stone, a GOP political operative and close confidant of Donald Trump also has no knowledge of what was in the files. So the fact that Trump made shit up makes Sone's comment meaningless. Along w your post.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 8, 2023 17:17:14 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jul 8, 2023 11:41:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Daleko,

      As a footnote to this Trump/JFK records story, I've been discussing the case with the attorney who is currently suing the Biden administration to enforce the JFK Records Act.

      He has obtained Trump White House memos from 2017, and he said that people in the Trump administration were discussing their plan to block the release of the JFK records in 2017, even before Trump boldly announced that he was going to release all of the records-- before abruptly "changing his mind."

      This attorney claims that Trump made up the story about "horrible things" in the records so that he wouldn't look like an idiot for contradicting himself and blocking their release.

So Trump has never read the classified files. I knew that. Why didn't you? Did you think he had taken files he didn't have access to? Boy that was stupid. A POTUS doesn't have access to anything and everything. By extension, Roger Stone, a GOP political operative and close confidant of Donald Trump also has no knowledge of what was in the files. So the fact that Trump made shit up makes Sone's comment meaningless. Along w your post.

I doubt Trump ever read any files, but his 2017 CIA Director, Mike Pompeo, probably briefed him on the dirt.

[daleko]

Jul 8, 2023 19:15:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2023 17:17:14 GMT -5 daleko said:

So Trump has never read the classified files. I knew that. Why didn't you? Did you think he had taken files he didn't have access to? Boy that was stupid. A POTUS doesn't have access to anything and everything. By extension, Roger Stone, a GOP political operative and close confidant of Donald Trump also has no knowledge of what was in the files. So the fact that Trump made shit up makes Sone's comment meaningless. Along w your post.

I doubt Trump ever read any files, but his 2017 CIA Director, Mike Pompeo, probably briefed him on the dirt.

He probably would not have had access either. Bill Clinton tried all of the angles and failed. 

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 9, 2023 13:20:28 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jul 8, 2023 19:15:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

I doubt Trump ever read any files, but his 2017 CIA Director, Mike Pompeo, probably briefed him on the dirt.

He probably would not have had access either. Bill Clinton tried all of the angles and failed. 

Except that Pompeo was the CIA Director in 2017.

[daleko]

Jul 9, 2023 15:13:39 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 9, 2023 13:20:28 GMT -5 daleko said:

He probably would not have had access either. Bill Clinton tried all of the angles and failed. 

Except that Pompeo was the CIA Director in 2017.

The difference being?

He still would not have legal access. You people watch too many movies.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 9, 2023 15:38:56 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jul 9, 2023 15:13:39 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Except that Pompeo was the CIA Director in 2017.

The difference being?

He still would not have legal access. You people watch too many movies.

In the past week, Trump has now pledged to "obliterate the Deep State," and to release the JFK records, if re-elected.

My question.  Why doesn't he simply tell us now about the "horrible" stuff that prompted him to block the release of the records in 2017?

[daleko]

Jul 9, 2023 17:05:44 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 9, 2023 15:38:56 GMT -5 daleko said:

The difference being?

He still would not have legal access. You people watch too many movies.

In the past week, Trump has now pledged to "obliterate the Deep State," and to release the JFK records, if re-elected.

My question.  Why doesn't he simply tell us now about the "horrible" stuff that prompted him to block the release of the records in 2017?

To answer your Q, he can't tell you because he hasn't seen it. I've already said that. There is no Deep State involved. He can't sneak a peak or send someone else to do it. Fing Bill Clinton tried and failed. Again, you people watch too many movies and you think they are true.

Ambrose, I'm not a fan of Trump. Could care less if he died tomorrow. I have no idea why he acts the way he does and don't care. He won't change. 

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 9, 2023 17:27:37 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jul 9, 2023 17:05:44 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

In the past week, Trump has now pledged to "obliterate the Deep State," and to release the JFK records, if re-elected.

My question.  Why doesn't he simply tell us now about the "horrible" stuff that prompted him to block the release of the records in 2017?

To answer your Q, he can't tell you because he hasn't seen it. I've already said that. There is no Deep State involved. He can't sneak a peak or send someone else to do it. Fing Bill Clinton tried and failed. Again, you people watch too many movies and you think they are true.

Ambrose, I'm not a fan of Trump. Could care less if he died tomorrow. I have no idea why he acts the way he does and don't care. He won't change. 

Daleko,
 
     You really need to get up to date on the declassified JFK assassination evidence.

     You're still living in the 1980s.

     Watch Oliver Stone's 4 hour, in depth, JFK-Destiny Betrayed documentary series.  It's stellar.

www.amazon.com/JFK-Destiny-Betrayed-Season-01/dp/B09PVNCNKR

[daleko]

Jul 9, 2023 19:20:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 9, 2023 17:27:37 GMT -5 daleko said:

To answer your Q, he can't tell you because he hasn't seen it. I've already said that. There is no Deep State involved. He can't sneak a peak or send someone else to do it. Fing Bill Clinton tried and failed. Again, you people watch too many movies and you think they are true.

Ambrose, I'm not a fan of Trump. Could care less if he died tomorrow. I have no idea why he acts the way he does and don't care. He won't change. 

Daleko,
 
     You really need to get up to date on the declassified JFK assassination evidence.

     You're still living in the 1980s.

     Watch Oliver Stone's 4 hour, in depth, JFK-Destiny Betrayed documentary series.  It's stellar.

www.amazon.com/JFK-Destiny-Betrayed-Season-01/dp/B09PVNCNKR

I'm talking about what hasn't been declassed. I thought you were discussing that. If you now want to pivot to what's public, <shrug> The process for viewing classified hasn't changed from 80s. Like I said your kind watch too many movies, written, produced and directed by your kind.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 10, 2023 10:32:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jul 9, 2023 19:20:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Daleko,
 
     You really need to get up to date on the declassified JFK assassination evidence.

     You're still living in the 1980s.

     Watch Oliver Stone's 4 hour, in depth, JFK-Destiny Betrayed documentary series.  It's stellar.

www.amazon.com/JFK-Destiny-Betrayed-Season-01/dp/B09PVNCNKR

I'm talking about what hasn't been declassed. I thought you were discussing that. If you now want to pivot to what's public, <shrug> The process for viewing classified hasn't changed from 80s. Like I said your kind watch too many movies, written, produced and directed by your kind.

My recommendation that you get up to date on the JFKA evidence was a response to your inaccurate statement (above) that, "There (was) no Deep State involved" in JFK's murder.

That is absolutely false.

[daleko]

Jul 10, 2023 10:50:34 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 10, 2023 10:32:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

I'm talking about what hasn't been declassed. I thought you were discussing that. If you now want to pivot to what's public, <shrug> The process for viewing classified hasn't changed from 80s. Like I said your kind watch too many movies, written, produced and directed by your kind.

My recommendation that you get up to date on the JFKA evidence was a response to your inaccurate statement (above) that, "There (was) no Deep State involved" in JFK's murder.

That is absolutely false.

Got it. We conflated a cpl of different topics, I guess. Carry on W/O me. 

[cbisbig]

Jul 10, 2023 10:50:34 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 10, 2023 10:32:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

I'm talking about what hasn't been declassed. I thought you were discussing that. If you now want to pivot to what's public, <shrug> The process for viewing classified hasn't changed from 80s. Like I said your kind watch too many movies, written, produced and directed by your kind.

My recommendation that you get up to date on the JFKA evidence was a response to your inaccurate statement (above) that, "There (was) no Deep State involved" in JFK's murder.

That is absolutely false.

Daleko schools you on a consistent basis, basically on every topic.
Just sayin..