Heroic Survivors Describe What Happened in WTC on 9/11

[oujour76]

Sept 21, 2023 19:58:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 21, 2023 19:05:11 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Good to know that eyewitness testimony is never wrong. I imagine there are lots of people in prison who would disagree.

Cut the crap, Harry.

My comment was specifically about William Rodriguez's report about the sequence of events he witnessed first hand in the North Tower on 9/11-- while saving lives and assisting the burn victim who was injured in the basement explosion that happened before the first plane hit the North Tower.

Your claim about Rodriguez is horseshit.  Period.

So, eyewitness testimony can be wrong? Who knew?

[AlaCowboy]

Sept 21, 2023 19:58:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 21, 2023 19:05:11 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Good to know that eyewitness testimony is never wrong. I imagine there are lots of people in prison who would disagree.

Cut the crap, Harry.

My comment was specifically about William Rodriguez's report about the sequence of events he witnessed first hand in the North Tower on 9/11-- while saving lives and assisting the burn victim who was injured in the basement explosion that happened before the first plane hit the North Tower.

Your claim about Rodriguez is horseshit.  Period.

You claim these mysterious "explosions" occurred before the first plane hit. If these basement "explosions" destroyed the support columns, why did the buildings not begin to fall immediately? Can you explain how a 1,100 ft. tall concrete and steel building stayed suspended in the air without support columns at its base?
Care to answer my question? Use your vast engineering training.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Sept 21, 2023 21:07:20 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 21, 2023 19:58:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Cut the crap, Harry.

My comment was specifically about William Rodriguez's report about the sequence of events he witnessed first hand in the North Tower on 9/11-- while saving lives and assisting the burn victim who was injured in the basement explosion that happened before the first plane hit the North Tower.

Your claim about Rodriguez is horseshit.  Period.

So, eyewitness testimony can be wrong? Who knew?

Get your head out of your ass and listen to Rodriguez's actual testimony, Harry.

Also listen to the testimony of the NYFD firemen who were in the North Tower on 9/11.

Stop lying, for once.

[daleko]

Sept 22, 2023 9:50:23 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 21, 2023 21:07:20 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

So, eyewitness testimony can be wrong? Who knew?

Get your head out of your ass and listen to Rodriguez's actual testimony, Harry.

Also listen to the testimony of the NYFD firemen who were in the North Tower on 9/11.

Stop lying, for once.

The Feds and locals interviewed three people who were in the basement, incl the PR Janitor. He was the only one who said that. He also supposedly recognized a raghead three months after he briefly and passively "saw" him among a group of people, while he was working sweeping floors. Really, you believe that? He was a hero opening doors for the NYFD but not a reliable witness to anything other than a guy got burned in the basement after a AV gas bloom raced down the elevator shaft. The bomb you misguidedly think was there wouldn't have had that impact. If you had any demolition eng knowledge or had been a field demo expert at the CIA, you'd know that.

[oujour76]

Sept 22, 2023 9:50:23 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 21, 2023 21:07:20 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

So, eyewitness testimony can be wrong? Who knew?

Get your head out of your ass and listen to Rodriguez's actual testimony, Harry.

Also listen to the testimony of the NYFD firemen who were in the North Tower on 9/11.

Stop lying, for once.

Already read it. BTW, you never answered the question: Can eyewitness testimony be wrong?

[DrSchadenfreude]

Sept 22, 2023 10:38:23 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 22, 2023 9:50:23 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Get your head out of your ass and listen to Rodriguez's actual testimony, Harry.

Also listen to the testimony of the NYFD firemen who were in the North Tower on 9/11.

Stop lying, for once.

Already read it. BTW, you never answered the question: Can eyewitness testimony be wrong?

If you read it-- which I seriously doubt-- you either didn't understand it, or you're flat out lying about it.

[oujour76]

Sept 22, 2023 11:43:59 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 22, 2023 10:38:23 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Already read it. BTW, you never answered the question: Can eyewitness testimony be wrong?

If you read it-- which I seriously doubt-- you either didn't understand it, or you're flat out lying about it.

Already explained it to you. And no surprise you have no option 3 above. Still waiting for an answer to my question: Can eyewitness testimony be wrong?

[daleko]

Sept 22, 2023 12:08:05 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 22, 2023 11:43:59 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

If you read it-- which I seriously doubt-- you either didn't understand it, or you're flat out lying about it.

Already explained it to you. And no surprise you have no option 3 above. Still waiting for an answer to my question: Can eyewitness testimony be wrong?

He's co-writing a book, perhaps. Now that he is retired, he needs the cash flow. Write a book, get some professors to include the book and bam, money to be made.

188 pages, $120 hardback. Easy money.



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We all have fun w this but he no more believes this stuff than he does that the moon landing was fake. He's having fun but he catches his lunch because he doesn't know what he doesn't know. 

[DrSchadenfreude]

After multiple explanations, Daleko still doesn't realize that;

1) "Conspiracy theories" are not monolithic. Some are accurate explanations of military and intelligence black ops, and others are kooky.

2) All theories about 9/11 are "conspiracy theories."

Some guys simply can't be educated.

[AlaCowboy]

Sept 22, 2023 15:02:20 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

After multiple explanations, Daleko still doesn't realize that;

1) "Conspiracy theories" are not monolithic. Some are accurate explanations of military and intelligence black ops, and others are kooky.

2) All theories about 9/11 are "conspiracy theories."

Some guys simply can't be educated.

So you admit your 9/11 theories are kooky conspiracy theories.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Sept 22, 2023 18:15:36 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Sept 22, 2023 15:02:20 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

After multiple explanations, Daleko still doesn't realize that;

1) "Conspiracy theories" are not monolithic. Some are accurate explanations of military and intelligence black ops, and others are kooky.

2) All theories about 9/11 are "conspiracy theories."

Some guys simply can't be educated.

So you admit your 9/11 theories are kooky conspiracy theories.

Go back and read what I wrote-- SLOWLY-- Dung-head.

My point sailed over your dung-filled cabeza.

[oujour76]

Sept 20, 2023 13:32:47 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

I'll mail the NRA a $1 dollar bill, Harry, with a photo of the dollar and the envelope.

Camera broken? Or are you going to welch on the bet?

[daleko]

Sept 22, 2023 19:21:41 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 22, 2023 18:15:36 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

So you admit your 9/11 theories are kooky conspiracy theories.

Go back and read what I wrote-- SLOWLY-- Dung-head.

My point sailed over your dung-filled cabeza.

Where's the picture that you have contributed to the NRA?

[DrSchadenfreude]

Sept 23, 2023 10:41:42 GMT -5 daleko said:

Sept 22, 2023 19:21:41 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Go back and read what I wrote-- SLOWLY-- Dung-head.

My point sailed over your dung-filled cabeza.

Where's the picture that you have contributed to the NRA?

Where's that $1,000 Alabama Cowboy owes me, Doofus?

As for the William Rodriguez bet-- in essence, Harry lied, as always.

William Rodriguez told the truth.

Harry claims that Rodriguez wasn't telling the truth about what happened in the WTC North Tower on 9/11.

Ergo, Harry actually lost the bet.

If you disagree, explain your cheesy logic.

[oujour76]

Sept 23, 2023 11:31:50 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Sept 23, 2023 10:41:42 GMT -5 daleko said:

Where's the picture that you have contributed to the NRA?

Where's that $1,000 Alabama Cowboy owes me, Doofus?

As for the William Rodriguez bet-- in essence, Harry lied, as always.

William Rodriguez told the truth.

Harry claims that Rodriguez wasn't telling the truth about what happened in the WTC North Tower on 9/11.

If you disagree, explain your cheesy logic.

LOL. Your bet was that I wouldn’t answer your question. I answered it, which means you lost. You can pay up, as you promised, or prove that you’re a liar and a welcher. Pretty simple.