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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 5, 2024 19:29:24 GMT -5
If anyone needs more encouragement to stack it deep... From the folks at SGAmmo who I've traditionally been a customer of: News from Shotshow 2024: I just got home from 4 days in Las Vegas at the shotshow, where I met with the people from the factories we work with, factory sales people, factory directors and owners, importers, etc. The big point of discussion seemed to be shortness in supply for nitrocellulose, which is the raw material used to make gunpowder and other propellants and explosives. Based on these conversations, the issue seems to be based on 2 factors, decreased availability in the supply chain and increased demand for the manufacturing of military ordnance. Getting into the details and a little more, a huge percentage of the nitrocellulose used to make gunpowder historically came from China and Russia, however according to my conversations with industry partners, the Chinese manufacturers who historically were the biggest suppliers at over 30% of the market share are no longer willing to ship raw nitrocellulose to the USA or NATO member countries in attempt to reduce the USA & NATO's ability to supply Ukrainian forces with artillery shells, and of course Russia who historically was the 2nd biggest supplier is out of the supply chain as well. This decrease in supply in raw material has gunpowder manufacturers in the USA raising prices dramatically and cutting off many of the smaller ammo manufacturers. The 2nd part of this issue is the demand for military ordnance, like 155mm artillery shells that use huge quantities gunpowder propellants, and the gunpowder manufacturers switching production to this type of gunpowder with what supply of nitrocellulose they do get. The first reason is that they always put the US government's needs before those of the commercial market, and the second reason is that it is simply much more profitable to manufacturer military ordnance than it is small caliber ammunition, so they get a much more profitable price manufacturing powder for artillery shells. In conclusion, while most of the factories seem to have gunpowder stockpiled today, this issue is expected to catch up to them no later than the summer of 2024 and possibly within a few months, and when it does it will mean the factories will be capable of producing much less small caliber ammunition to sell to the US commercial market. If demand for ammo is low to moderate, you may not see a big change, but if demand were to go way up as it does periodically, the factories will not be able to ramp up capacity to fill that demand. In my opinion, a lot could go wrong in the commercial ammo supply chain in 2024 and it would be wise to stock up sooner than later as 2024 price increases have just started to set in on just a handful of select items so far, and availability is still good which has held prices down temporarily. Link: www.sgammo.com/ammo-canisters-news-shotshow-sgammo
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 5, 2024 19:33:30 GMT -5
I should note that these prices now are currently significantly higher than when I was stacking ammo. Like way higher, and it's only going to get worse.
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Post by dilligaf on Feb 5, 2024 23:34:52 GMT -5
As long as Bitem is POTUS, the price of everything will continue to be higher than it ever was under President Trump. But the components and load your own much cheaper than factory ammo.
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 5, 2024 23:42:47 GMT -5
I was buying top shelf .223/5.56 for half the price per round of the current price of bottom shelf. That's only going to get worse. I've got all I'll ever need so I'm not really interested in reloading.
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Post by dilligaf on Feb 6, 2024 0:36:27 GMT -5
I was buying top shelf .223/5.56 for half the price per round of the current price of bottom shelf. That's only going to get worse. I've got all I'll ever need so I'm not really interested in reloading. So all of your weapons are chambered for .223/5.56.
Not a smart move at all. If you have to have the ammo shipped to you, add on another ridiculous fee.
I like having abundant supplies of 9mm, .38/.357, .45 Colt, .45ACP, 44 Special, .44 Magnum, and they use different sizes of bullets, primers, and even different grades of propellant. I am limited to forced buying of factory .22 rimfire ammo, but I will most likely outlive my existing stock.
Nitrocellulose is used in much more than propellant manufacture, so I will take this story as a "cry of wolf" for the gullible ones among us. I am prepared, and I of course, have my own personal contingency plan.
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 6, 2024 8:17:55 GMT -5
I was buying top shelf .223/5.56 for half the price per round of the current price of bottom shelf. That's only going to get worse. I've got all I'll ever need so I'm not really interested in reloading. Dummy. You're turning into walter with stupid comments like that. Anyway, I haven't bought ammo in years and as I recall shipping was mostly free. Like you with .22 rim, I have more rounds in every caliber than I could probably use up in this lifetime. And I save all my reloadable brass so if I ever do decide to take up the reloading hobby I won't have to worry about that component. Plus all my ammo is stored in G.I. .50 cal and .30 cal cans with a couple of large desiccant packs thrown in. That ammo will still be fresh in 100 years.
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Post by dilligaf on Feb 6, 2024 23:36:27 GMT -5
Dummy. You're turning into walter with stupid comments like that. Anyway, I haven't bought ammo in years and as I recall shipping was mostly free. Like you with .22 rim, I have more rounds in every caliber than I could probably use up in this lifetime. And I save all my reloadable brass so if I ever do decide to take up the reloading hobby I won't have to worry about that component. Plus all my ammo is stored in G.I. .50 cal and .30 cal cans with a couple of large desiccant packs thrown in. That ammo will still be fresh in 100 years. So what are you whining about, then?
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 7, 2024 7:58:16 GMT -5
So what are you whining about, then? Who's whining? I'm passing along info. Joo got a problem with that, mang?
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Post by dilligaf on Feb 29, 2024 14:40:13 GMT -5
Who's whining? I'm passing along info. Joo got a problem with that, mang? Nope, no problem here. I have more loaded ammo of all my calibers than I will probably use in my remaining days, and a shit load more components that need to be assembled into loaded rounds. I'm just getting lazy in my old age.
My daughters are already earmarking which ones of my guns they will take when I croak. Buzzards.
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Feb 29, 2024 14:42:52 GMT -5
Who's whining? I'm passing along info. Joo got a problem with that, mang? Nope, no problem here. I have more loaded ammo of all my calibers than I will probably use in my remaining days, and a shit load more components that need to be assembled into loaded rounds. I'm just getting lazy in my old age.
My daughters are already earmarking which ones of my guns they will take when I croak. Buzzards.
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Post by dilligaf on Feb 29, 2024 14:45:12 GMT -5
Nope, no problem here. I have more loaded ammo of all my calibers than I will probably use in my remaining days, and a shit load more components that need to be assembled into loaded rounds. I'm just getting lazy in my old age.
My daughters are already earmarking which ones of my guns they will take when I croak. Buzzards.
I just hope they find me before my dog completely eats me.
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