Another "Greatest American Hero"

[Buckeye Dale]

Almost missed the anniversary...

[oujour76]

Apr 26, 2024 6:10:24 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Almost missed the anniversary...

Forgot about that….also forgot he was with Cubs, and not the Dodgers at the time. Thanks for posting.

[Walter]

Apr 26, 2024 6:20:34 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Apr 26, 2024 6:10:24 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Almost missed the anniversary...

Forgot about that….also forgot he was with Cubs, and not the Dodgers at the time. Thanks for posting.

This is an example of how one's mind plays tricks on you.
My father and I have argued for years about that game. He says we were at that game. I say we were watching it on TV. The problem he counters, is that Dodger home games were not televised in those days, so how did we see it? I don't know, but swear we were not there. I do not know for certain...to this day...whether we were there or not.

[daleko]

Apr 26, 2024 10:36:22 GMT -5 Walter said:

This is an example of how one's mind plays tricks on you.
My father and I have argued for years about that game. He says we were at that game. I say we were watching it on TV. The problem he counters, is that Dodger home games were not televised in those days, so how did we see it? I don't know, but swear we were not there. I do not know for certain...to this day...whether we were there or not.

KTTV was the televised broadcast partner from 1958 to 1992. Additionally, starting in the late 1970s through the early 1990s, the Dodgers put a small number of their home games on a subscription/pay-per-view service called Dodgervision. Might be worth a phone call to FOX 11, though KTTV was an Independent from 1954 to 1986. Maybe they have records, maybe not. I'd guess you were either there, one of the 25,167 in attendance or saw it on the evening news.

www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197604250.shtml

[Walter]

Apr 26, 2024 12:35:31 GMT -5 daleko said:

Apr 26, 2024 10:36:22 GMT -5 Walter said:

This is an example of how one's mind plays tricks on you.
My father and I have argued for years about that game. He says we were at that game. I say we were watching it on TV. The problem he counters, is that Dodger home games were not televised in those days, so how did we see it? I don't know, but swear we were not there. I do not know for certain...to this day...whether we were there or not.

KTTV was the televised broadcast partner from 1958 to 1992. Additionally, starting in the late 1970s through the early 1990s, the Dodgers put a small number of their home games on a subscription/pay-per-view service called Dodgervision. Might be worth a phone call to FOX 11, though KTTV was an Independent from 1954 to 1986. Maybe they have records, maybe not. I'd guess you were either there, one of the 25,167 in attendance or saw it on the evening news.

www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197604250.shtml

The deal KTTV had was to broadcast Dodger away games, and not all of them. Only those played against the Giants in SF.
With the occasional Saturday game, the Dodgers were only ever on TV about 10 times a year.
Walter O'Malley firmly believed that if you wanted to see his product, you had to pay for a ticket and come to the game.

IIRC, the Mets were the first team to broadcast all their games, starting around 1970. I recall O'Malley being quoted as saying he thought they were crazy to do it.

My father used to tell me that when he was a kid, Red Barber did not even travel with the team to do radio broadcasts.

He would stay in New York and make up a game in his head while reading Western Union teletype feeds into a microphone sent from wherever they were playing.

[oujour76]

Apr 26, 2024 16:14:08 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 26, 2024 12:35:31 GMT -5 daleko said:

KTTV was the televised broadcast partner from 1958 to 1992. Additionally, starting in the late 1970s through the early 1990s, the Dodgers put a small number of their home games on a subscription/pay-per-view service called Dodgervision. Might be worth a phone call to FOX 11, though KTTV was an Independent from 1954 to 1986. Maybe they have records, maybe not. I'd guess you were either there, one of the 25,167 in attendance or saw it on the evening news.

www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197604250.shtml

The deal KTTV had was to broadcast Dodger away games, and not all of them. Only those played against the Giants in SF.
With the occasional Saturday game, the Dodgers were only ever on TV about 10 times a year.
Walter O'Malley firmly believed that if you wanted to see his product, you had to pay for a ticket and come to the game.

IIRC, the Mets were the first team to broadcast all their games, starting around 1970. I recall O'Malley being quoted as saying he thought they were crazy to do it.

My father used to tell me that when he was a kid, Red Barber did not even travel with the team to do radio broadcasts.

He would stay in New York and make up a game in his head while reading Western Union teletype feeds into a microphone sent from wherever they were playing.

Mets were televised in the mid 60’s, WOR-TV, Channel 9 with Lindsay Nelson, Ralph Kiner and Bob Murphy. Yankees were on WPIX, Channel 11 with Red Barber, Phil Rizzuto, Joe Garogiola and Jerry Coleman.

[daleko]

Apr 26, 2024 16:14:08 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 26, 2024 12:35:31 GMT -5 daleko said:

KTTV was the televised broadcast partner from 1958 to 1992. Additionally, starting in the late 1970s through the early 1990s, the Dodgers put a small number of their home games on a subscription/pay-per-view service called Dodgervision. Might be worth a phone call to FOX 11, though KTTV was an Independent from 1954 to 1986. Maybe they have records, maybe not. I'd guess you were either there, one of the 25,167 in attendance or saw it on the evening news.

www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197604250.shtml

The deal KTTV had was to broadcast Dodger away games, and not all of them. Only those played against the Giants in SF.
With the occasional Saturday game, the Dodgers were only ever on TV about 10 times a year.
Walter O'Malley firmly believed that if you wanted to see his product, you had to pay for a ticket and come to the game.

IIRC, the Mets were the first team to broadcast all their games, starting around 1970. I recall O'Malley being quoted as saying he thought they were crazy to do it.

My father used to tell me that when he was a kid, Red Barber did not even travel with the team to do radio broadcasts.

He would stay in New York and make up a game in his head while reading Western Union teletype feeds into a microphone sent from wherever they were playing.

Thanks. When did Dodgervision start, which did do some home games? Understand I'm just trying to support your dad viewpoint?  On July 17, 1964, a game out of Los Angeles between the Chicago Cubs and Los Angeles Dodgers contest became the first Pay TV baseball game. Subscription television offered the cablecast to subscribers for money.

And they thought Ted Turner was crazy, uplinking Braves games on TBS to Satellite. He was indeed carzy but that's a different story.

[Walter]

Apr 26, 2024 16:50:52 GMT -5 daleko said:

Apr 26, 2024 16:14:08 GMT -5 Walter said:

The deal KTTV had was to broadcast Dodger away games, and not all of them. Only those played against the Giants in SF.
With the occasional Saturday game, the Dodgers were only ever on TV about 10 times a year.
Walter O'Malley firmly believed that if you wanted to see his product, you had to pay for a ticket and come to the game.

IIRC, the Mets were the first team to broadcast all their games, starting around 1970. I recall O'Malley being quoted as saying he thought they were crazy to do it.

My father used to tell me that when he was a kid, Red Barber did not even travel with the team to do radio broadcasts.

He would stay in New York and make up a game in his head while reading Western Union teletype feeds into a microphone sent from wherever they were playing.

Thanks. When did Dodgervision start, which did do some home games? Understand I'm just trying to support your dad viewpoint?  On July 17, 1964, a game out of Los Angeles between the Chicago Cubs and Los Angeles Dodgers contest became the first Pay TV baseball game. Subscription television offered the cablecast to subscribers for money.

And they thought Ted Turner was crazy, uplinking Braves games on TBS to Satellite. He was indeed carzy but that's a different story.

I have never heard of Dodgervision, but I think that is because when I was a kid there wasn't any cable in LA except in areas that had bad over air reception due to line of sight geography issues. So only people in and behind the hills would have been able to buy it.