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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 27, 2024 23:07:25 GMT -5
Question for the forum idiot known as "Fred," and the forum.
Are the indigenous natives of Palestine endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
And, if not, why not?
Explain your logic, in terms that Thomas Jefferson and other decent Americans can understand.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 28, 2024 10:54:07 GMT -5
Well, I'm shocked, shocked to see that Fred is unwilling to answer the question.
Fred is too busy flooding the zone with shit.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Apr 28, 2024 12:32:49 GMT -5
Question for the forum idiot known as "Fred," and the forum.
Are the indigenous natives of Palestine endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
And, if not, why not?
Explain your logic, in terms that Thomas Jefferson and other decent Americans can understand. Since this question is open to the forum, I will give my opinion. Yes, the Palestinians in Gaza have the right to choose their government, which they did. They also have the right to change that government, which they haven't done. The government they chose has stolen from the people that elected them and used that money to fund an army of terrorists that hide in schools, mosques, hospitals, and the apartment buildings where Palestinians live with their families. These terrorists use the Palestinian families as shields while they cowardly kill Jewish citizens that mean them no harm, and that even welcome them into their country where they work and earn money to support their families. The Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank deserve the government they have because they chose it and allow it to dominate them, steal from them, and hide among and behind them while they attempt to kill Israelis and Jews around the world. The rights they have are the rights they have allowed their government to either give to them or take away from them.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 28, 2024 14:38:54 GMT -5
Question for the forum idiot known as "Fred," and the forum.
Are the indigenous natives of Palestine endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
And, if not, why not?
Explain your logic, in terms that Thomas Jefferson and other decent Americans can understand. Since this question is open to the forum, I will give my opinion. Yes, the Palestinians in Gaza have the right to choose there government, which they did. They also have the right to change that government, which they haven't done. The government they chose has stolen from the people that elected them and used that money to fund an army of terrorists that hide in schools, mosques, hospitals, and the apartment buildings where Palestinians live with their families. These terrorists use the Palestinian families as shields while they cowardly kill Jewish citizens that mean them no harm, and that even welcome them into their country where they work and earn money to support their families. The Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank deserve the government they have because they chose it and allow it to dominate them, steal from them, and hide among and behind them while they attempt to kill Israelis and Jews around the world. The rights they have are the rights they have allowed their government to either give to them or take away from them.Ra mey, 1) When was the last election in Gaza? Any clue? 2) How many of the 15,000 murdered children in Gaza voted for Hamas? 2) Has Netanyahu actively supported Hamas rule in Gaza during the past decade-- in order to divide the Palestinian authority and prevent a two-state solution?
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Post by AlaCowboy on Apr 28, 2024 15:12:26 GMT -5
Since this question is open to the forum, I will give my opinion. Yes, the Palestinians in Gaza have the right to choose there government, which they did. They also have the right to change that government, which they haven't done. The government they chose has stolen from the people that elected them and used that money to fund an army of terrorists that hide in schools, mosques, hospitals, and the apartment buildings where Palestinians live with their families. These terrorists use the Palestinian families as shields while they cowardly kill Jewish citizens that mean them no harm, and that even welcome them into their country where they work and earn money to support their families. The Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank deserve the government they have because they chose it and allow it to dominate them, steal from them, and hide among and behind them while they attempt to kill Israelis and Jews around the world. The rights they have are the rights they have allowed their government to either give to them or take away from them. Ra mey, 1) When was the last election in Gaza? Any clue? The last election was when the Palestinians voted in the people they wanted to run Gaza. The next election will be when the people of Gaza will be when the people of Gaza force Hamas out and elect the people they want to run Gaza. But, the new government will likely be no better than the present one.2) How many of the 15,000 murdered children in Gaza voted for Hamas? Since children can't vote, the answer is none. That number coincides with the number of unborn children that voted to repeal Roe v Wade.2) Has Netanyahu actively supported Hamas rule in Gaza during the past decade-- in order to divide the Palestinian authority and prevent a two-state solution? The only Palestinian authority in Gaza is Hamas. If the Palestinians in Gaza throw out Hamas Netanyahu would likely work with Gaza to ensure a fair election.n
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 28, 2024 16:34:23 GMT -5
Ra mey, 1) When was the last election in Gaza? Any clue? The last election was when the Palestinians voted in the people they wanted to run Gaza. The next election will be when the people of Gaza will be when the people of Gaza force Hamas out and elect the people they want to run Gaza. But, the new government will likely be no better than the present one.2) How many of the 15,000 murdered children in Gaza voted for Hamas? Since children can't vote, the answer is none. That number coincides with the number of unborn children that voted to repeal Roe v Wade.2) Has Netanyahu actively supported Hamas rule in Gaza during the past decade-- in order to divide the Palestinian authority and prevent a two-state solution? The only Palestinian authority in Gaza is Hamas. If the Palestinians in Gaza throw out Hamas Netanyahu would likely work with Gaza to ensure a fair election.n You're full of it, as always, Ra mey. You can't fob off Netanyahu's mass murders of women and children in Gaza on elections that happened years ago in an open prison camp. It's a moronic argument. Were those 15,000 murdered Palestinian children endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which were life, liberty, and happiness? Yes or no?
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Apr 28, 2024 19:54:54 GMT -5
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Post by dilligaf on Apr 28, 2024 22:12:35 GMT -5
The Palestianians have the same rights that British, American, Chinese, Japanese. German, Italian, Polish, French, and other civilians had in WWII. Innocent people get killed in war. That is simply a FACT OF LIFE.
It is HAMAS who started this war, therefore it is THEY who have all the blood on their hands.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 28, 2024 22:57:52 GMT -5
The Palestianians have the same rights that British, American, Chinese, Japanese. German, Italian, Polish, French, and other civilians had in WWII. Innocent people get killed in war. That is simply a FACT OF LIFE.
It is HAMAS who started this war, therefore it is THEY who have all the blood on their hands. Bullshit. The IDF has slaughtered thousands of women and children-- while deliberately bombing residential buildings, schools, universities, hospitals, and mosques. Those are war crimes. It's ethnic cleansing. I notice that the yahoos on this forum who are denying Netanyahu's war crimes are mostly the same guys who disparaged the Black Lives Matter movement. Surprise, surprise. You clowns have no concept of human rights.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Apr 29, 2024 14:46:14 GMT -5
The only Palestinian authority in Gaza is Hamas. If the Palestinians in Gaza throw out Hamas Netanyahu would likely work with Gaza to ensure a fair election.n You're full of it, as always, Ra mey. You can't fob off Netanyahu's mass murders of women and children in Gaza on elections that happened years ago in an open prison camp. It's a moronic argument. Were those 15,000 murdered Palestinian children endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which were life, liberty, and happiness? Yes or no? Since the quote about unalienable rights was in the Declaration of Independence, though a Harvard educated scholar as you claim to be would know that it was not inalienable rights as you posted, but unalienable rights, it does not apply to anyone not a citizen of the United States. You also selectively omitted the part of the Declaration of Independence that follows: "—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
So, it is up to the Palestinian people to establish a government that will guarantee them whatever rights the constitution they produce offers them. You should go to Gaza and demand Hamas allow you to teach the Palestinians there how to establish a constitution and government that will provide them with whatever rights they want. You'll be a hero.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Apr 29, 2024 21:58:32 GMT -5
You're full of it, as always, Ra mey. You can't fob off Netanyahu's mass murders of women and children in Gaza on elections that happened years ago in an open prison camp. It's a moronic argument. Were those 15,000 murdered Palestinian children endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which were life, liberty, and happiness? Yes or no? Since the quote about unalienable rights was in the Declaration of Independence, though a Harvard educated scholar as you claim to be would know that it was not inalienable rights as you posted, but unalienable rights, it does not apply to anyone not a citizen of the United States. You also selectively omitted the part of the Declaration of Independence that follows: "—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
So, it is up to the Palestinian people to establish a government that will guarantee them whatever rights the constitution they produce offers them. You should go to Gaza and demand Hamas allow you to teach the Palestinians there how to establish a constitution and government that will provide them with whatever rights they want. You'll be a hero. The Liar From Denver got rather quiet about this topic very quickly.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 29, 2024 22:21:31 GMT -5
You're full of it, as always, Ra mey. You can't fob off Netanyahu's mass murders of women and children in Gaza on elections that happened years ago in an open prison camp. It's a moronic argument. Were those 15,000 murdered Palestinian children endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which were life, liberty, and happiness? Yes or no? Since the quote about unalienable rights was in the Declaration of Independence, though a Harvard educated scholar as you claim to be would know that it was not inalienable rights as you posted, but unalienable rights, it does not apply to anyone not a citizen of the United States. You also selectively omitted the part of the Declaration of Independence that follows: "—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
So, it is up to the Palestinian people to establish a government that will guarantee them whatever rights the constitution they produce offers them. You should go to Gaza and demand Hamas allow you to teach the Palestinians there how to establish a constitution and government that will provide them with whatever rights they want. You'll be a hero.Hey, stupid, Thomas Jefferson studied the philosophy of John Locke, and Enlightenment concepts about natural rights. So, his argument about rights was a statement about humanity, in general, with particular reference to American colonists. That is, precisely, why Obama mentioned Jeffersonian concepts of natural rights in his major public address in the Middle East. Obama, correctly, despised the Zionist bigot, Bibi Netanyahu. Biden has not been as wise.
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Post by daleko on Apr 30, 2024 12:29:41 GMT -5
Question for the forum idiot known as "Fred," and the forum.
Are the indigenous natives of Palestine endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
And, if not, why not?
Explain your logic, in terms that Thomas Jefferson and other decent Americans can understand. Over half of the world doesn't believe in a creator. For THEM, no creator, no unalienable rights given by said "creator".
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Apr 30, 2024 12:31:53 GMT -5
Question for the forum idiot known as "Fred," and the forum.
Are the indigenous natives of Palestine endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights-- among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
And, if not, why not?
Explain your logic, in terms that Thomas Jefferson and other decent Americans can understand. Over half of the world doesn't believe in a creator. For THEM, no creator, no unalienable rights given by said "creator". Got it, Chivington.
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