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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 12:00:26 GMT -5
Just noting again that Bailey and Grady are both Armwood alums. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) It must be going well at QB for Grady to be working at WR. I've come to the realization that WR is an even bigger weakness than the OL. Wowzer!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 16:02:27 GMT -5
WRs!!!!!!! - I'd start rescinding the ships of some of these worthless players:
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Mac on #Gators WRs: "Every now and then they catch it. I haven't really jumped up and down about it."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 16:12:57 GMT -5
GatorCountry.com @gatorcountry
McElwain says that he's excited about Colorado State coming to the Swamp in 2018.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 17:39:40 GMT -5
The good news is a scope means maybe 2 weeks - Ivey will likely be back for at UK week, but he'll miss 2 games.
The playing both QBs in the opener or the opening 2 games wouldn't surprise if you've been reading my posts on the QB competition since day 1. I still expect McElwain to wait until the last possible minute to announce a starter. He obviously feels he can play both in at least the first game:
Thursday August 27, 2015 Gators freshman OL Martez Ivey sidelined; McElwain plans to play two QBs in opener Updated: 6:03pm, August 27
GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Gators head coach Jim McElwain announced prior to Thursday night's practice that freshman Martez Ivey, one of the top offensive line prospects in the country, is out indefinitely due to an unspecified leg injury.
Ivey reported pain in the leg Thursday and will undergo what McElwain described as a "scope" on Friday morning.
"Found a pre-existing thing that was kind of bothering him,'' McElwain said. "We'll get that cleaned up. Have no idea exactly when his return will be."
Ivey emerged in preseason camp as the potential starter at left tackle. In Ivey's absence, sophomore David Sharpe will move from right tackle to the left side, and freshman Fred Johnson will play right tackle. Graduate transfer Mason Halter can also play either left or right tackle.
McElwain added that fifth-year senior Trip Thurman, working primarily at left guard, can also move outside if needed to provide depth. Redshirt freshman Travaris Dorsey (leg) returned to practice this week at guard, which allows Thurman to rotate positions if needed.
Right guard Antonio Riles has been impressed with Ivey's development in his short time on campus.
"It's a big blow for us, but I think Martez is going to be perfectly fine,'' Riles said. "We've all cross-trained certain positions, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are guys who are gonna step up. I've played left and right. Sharpe plays left and right. Halter plays left and right. I'm sure everybody will adjust to it and we'll be just fine."
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McElwain reiterated Thursday that quarterbacks Treon Harris and Will Grier will both play in the season opener Sept. 5 against New Mexico State.
McElwain said playing both was the likely plan on Tuesday after practice.
"It will play itself out,'' McElwain said. "There isn't a timetable. The timetable is figure out a way to win the football game with whoever is moving the team at that position and getting the right parts at the other positions as well.
"By no means am I displeased with what they're doing, but we still need to see them in live action and ... how they elevate the play of the people around them."
--GatorZone.com senior writer Chris Harry contributed to this report.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 21:56:25 GMT -5
Good! No Miami. After Michigan in 2017, the next slot Miami would have taken will go to another intersectional opponent:
GatorCountry.com @gatorcountry
Jeremy Foley says there is no plans to add Miami to the football schedule on a permanent basis right now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 10:29:46 GMT -5
With stuff like this out there, I hope Butch Jones doesn't disappoint the UT faithful. He could go onto the hot seat real quick if he does: storage.proboards.com/3398815/a/kGmhuSGerpFslaHy2yMT.JPGMy gut says losing to OU and at UF could spell real trouble for Jones after all of the preseason hype.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 7:02:27 GMT -5
By Kevin Brockway Staff writer
Published: Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:47 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 28, 2015 at 4:47 p.m.
Florida redshirt sophomore defensive lineman Jordan Sherit accomplished his major goal this training camp — staying healthy.
It’s been an injury-filled career for the Tampa native since arriving on UF’s campus. But with a chance to impress a new coaching staff, the 6-foot-4, 250-pound Sherit has shown he’s capable of jumping into the defensive line rotation this season.
“It’s definitely been tough, but kind of getting healthy and with this coaching staff it’s kind of like a new leaf,” Sherit said. “It definitely provides a positive energy and inspires you to keep working and keep grinding that way.”
To date, Sherit’s career has been marked more by trips to training room than production. In nine games in 2014, Sherit had three tackles and one pass breakup. He missed the final three games of the season, including the Birmingham Bowl, after undergoing double-hernia surgery. In 2013, Sherit sat out the entire season on a medical redshirt while recovering from a torn ACL.
“I’m starting to get to know my body and kind of like getting through injuries and not really becoming 100 percent healthy afterwards,” Sherit said. “That usually creates the possibilities for other injuries on the other side of your body in the overcompensation. So just learning that stuff and really just putting a lot of work into the training room over the offseason to get everything right.”
Fully healthy this season, Sherit has shown the ability to make plays on the defensive line during camp.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 9:59:36 GMT -5
I voted for #3 - This from the Gainesville Sun:
Now that preseason camp is done, what still concerns you about the Florida football team?
1. Who will start at quarterback 10% 2. The depth on the offensive line 40% 3. Whether the Gators will have a productive offense 49% 4. The depth on defense 1%
Number of votes cast: 417
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Post by AlaCowboy on Aug 29, 2015 14:05:43 GMT -5
I voted for #3 - This from the Gainesville Sun: Now that preseason camp is done, what still concerns you about the Florida football team? 1. Who will start at quarterback 10% 2. The depth on the offensive line 40% 3. Whether the Gators will have a productive offense 49% 4. The depth on defense 1% Number of votes cast: 417 2 and 3 add up to a serious concern. The line of scrimmage is all-important, especially in the SEC. The O-line will answer question 3.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 14:23:15 GMT -5
I voted for #3 - This from the Gainesville Sun: Now that preseason camp is done, what still concerns you about the Florida football team? 1. Who will start at quarterback 10% 2. The depth on the offensive line 40% 3. Whether the Gators will have a productive offense 49% 4. The depth on defense 1% Number of votes cast: 417 2 and 3 add up to a serious concern. The line of scrimmage is all-important, especially in the SEC. The O-line will answer question 3. Usually that is the case with the OL, but UF is so bad at WR lacking playmakers. I'd rank the offensive deficiencies this way after fall camp: 1. WRs - None would start in the 2 deep for Spurrier or Meyer. The TEs and RBs may end up with as many or more catches than the WRs. (shaking head) 2. OL - Less of a concern with the return to health of senior Trip Thurman and the graduate transfer from Fordham who is doing very good. Other players have stepped up so UF has developed a solid 8 player rotation and could develop a few more after the first couple of games. The OL is not near as bad as was speculated back in the spring. 3. QB - Either a redshirt freshman with zero game experience or a true sophomore who started 4 games last season will win the starting job. Nuff said. If Jim McElwain can develop a productive offense, UF could be much better than anyone has predicted. With that stated, I'm not betting on it or holding my breath in anticipation of it happening. With the crapola Will Muschamp left on offense as a total package, McElwain should get COY if he finds a way to win 9 games and compete for the SEC East.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 12:42:07 GMT -5
The writer didn't mention Thomas Holley, but he was back at practice last week. This article from Gatorzone.com is right on the money. Either grow from week to week or it will be a long largely unsuccessful season:
August 30, 2015
By SCOTT CARTER GatorZone.com Senior Writer
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The Gators broke preseason camp on Friday and turn their attention to New Mexico State on Monday when they return to practice.
The past month has been an important one for the Gators under first-year head coach Jim McElwain. While McElwain was in charge during the spring, the team was limited by major deficiencies at offensive line, key injuries and a steep learning curve that comes when a new head coach arrives.
That’s not to say Florida has solved all of its issues in preseason camp. Far from it. However, there is more understanding of expectations, roles and the culture McElwain and his staff have implemented since he took over day-to-day operations of the program in January.
If there is one aspect of McElwain’s brief tenure at Florida that stands out, it’s his persistent emphasis on attention to detail. Whether it’s the designated path the Gators take as they walk back from the practice field to the locker room, or teaching precise route-running by the receivers, McElwain has a defined plan.
You either buy into the plan or get erased from it.
“A little shock for them, the pace at which we go,’’ McElwain said after the team’s first practice. “They’ve got to understand what we need to do to be successful and the pace we play offense, the pace we play defense, in and out of different situations, understanding that creating the chaos helps you come game time because during a game there’s a lot of things that go on.”
There were a lot of things that went on during preseason camp as well. With the start of the season six days away – Florida hosts New Mexico State on Saturday (7:30 p.m., SEC Network) – let’s take a look at the hot topics of camp:
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TWO QUARTERBACKS IN OPENER
The big story line entering camp was the quarterback battle between sophomore Treon Harris and redshirt freshman Will Grier. Nothing has changed.
McElwain said last week that he wants to evaluate both quarterbacks in a game and see which one elevates the play of the offense. Harris has six career starts and threw nine touchdown passes a year ago, so he owns an edge in experience.
Grier has yet to take a snap for the Gators but is perhaps better suited to run the fast-paced, pro-style offense McElwain prefers. However, McElwain has said from day one that the offense will be adjusted if needed to fit the personnel he inherited, so based on his statements throughout camp, McElwain is still evaluating this position closely.
A wild card could be transfer Luke Del Rio, who arrived over the summer from Oregon State and has petitioned the NCAA to be able to play immediately. Del Rio took most of the third-team reps as camp progressed but his status remains uncertain.
So, as the season opener approaches, expect to see Harris and Grier get work on Saturday against the Aggies.
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INJURY REPORT
The Gators made it through camp relatively healthy other than for the typical day-to-day injuries that surface playing a physical game.
Freshman offensive lineman Martez Ivey suffered the most notable injury, requiring arthroscopic surgery on his left leg Friday. Ivey was in position to start or play significant snaps at left tackle before reporting to trainers on Thursday morning he was in pain. He is out indefinitely but is not expected to miss a large portion of the season.
Safety Keanu Neal has been slowed the past week with a leg injury and freshman defensive back Kylan Johnson has been sidelined due to a leg injury that McElwain said fortunately does not require surgery.
The most surprising injury news of camp was the progress of senior linebacker Antonio Morrison, who suffered a knee injury in the Birmingham Bowl that later required two surgeries. However, Morrison stunned observers with his quick recovery and made more strides in camp.
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HANDLING TRANSITION
The first preseason camp with McElwain in charge featured two major transitions the players seemed to handle well.
First, the team moved in together at a local hotel as in years past to build camaraderie but quickly moved out due to practical concerns. The veterans returned to their apartments and the newcomers moved into a different hotel.
Meanwhile, Florida's $17 million new indoor practice facility was ready to use the final week of practice. The Gators practiced at the school's lacrosse stadium to start camp and scrimmaged twice at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium.
McElwain played an important role in developing the final plans for the IPF and the state-of-the-art facility was greeted warmly by the players and coaches as an important addition to the program's future.
REBUILT O-LINE
No one is ready to compare the Gators’ 2015 offensive line to some of those towering walls McElwain had to work with in his four years as Alabama’s offensive coordinator, but the unit at least has some fresh bodies who got a lot of experience in camp.
In the wake of Ivey’s injury, sophomore David Sharpe moved from right tackle to left tackle, and freshman Fred Johnson and graduate transfer Mason Halter are expected to play right tackle. Inside, Trip Thurman (left guard), Cam Dillard (center) and Antonio Riles (right guard) appear the frontrunners to start. Freshman Tyler Jordan earned positive reviews on the inside and redshirt freshman Travaris Dorsey, who missed time early in camp with an injury, has rejoined the mix.
Bottom line, the Gators are in much better shape than at the end of spring practice but with plenty of room for improvement.
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CATCH THE BALL
With so many changes at receivers coach in recent years, this group has had difficulty building continuity and had trouble producing. McElwain and receivers coach Kerry Dixon have been very hands-on with the group in camp.
Now, they want the players to be very hands-on when passes are thrown their way in games.
Junior Demarcus Robinson and running back-turned-receiver Brandon Powell will be relied on heavily to help out the young quarterbacks. Sixth-year senior tight end Jake McGee will also factor heavily into the passing game.
After that trio, the door is wide open for potential playmakers to step right up. Ahmad Fulwood, Alvin Bailey, Chris Thompson, C.J. Worton, Latroy Pittman, Ryan Sousa, Valdez Showers and Raphael Andrades are names you know. Freshmen Antonio Callaway and Kalif Jackson gained valuable reps in camp, and behind McGee at tight end, redshirt freshman C’yontai Lewis showed potential. DeAndre Goolsby and Moral Stephens are also at tight end. Transfer quarterback/receiver Josh Grady, who played at Vanderbilt for three seasons, offers some versatility.
As camp closed, McElwain continued to urge this group of largely unproven players to play with a heightened sense of awareness and make a difference.
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PERSONNEL NOTE
The Gators will be without three players in the opener Saturday. Pittman, defensive lineman Alex McCalister and defensive back Marcus Maye are suspended due to University Athletic Association policy for the New Mexico State contest.
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SAFETY BLANKET
There’s still a lot of mystery surrounding the Gators heading into the season opener. That is always the case when a team opens without a clear-cut starting quarterback.
That said, McElwain and his offensive staff can take solace in knowing they have one of the country’s top returning defenses to help cover some of the developing offense’s warts.
Vernon Hargreaves III is an All-American at cornerback, and sophomore corners Jalen Tabor and Quincy Wilson could start for about any team in the SEC.
The defensive line is deep with tackles Caleb Brantley, Joey Ivie, Taven Bryan and redshirt freshman Khairi Clark in the middle, and McCalister, Jonathan Bullard and Bryan Cox Jr. experienced on the outside. Sophomore Jordan Sherit, finally healthy, had his moments in camp and could be a factor, and freshman CeCe Jefferson played to good reviews in camp.
Offensively, running backs Kelvin Taylor and true freshman Jordan Scarlett are primed for a lot of work in the running game.
Is this an ideal team for McElwain in his first season? Not even close. Still, he is quick to point out there is good talent on the roster and if the offense progresses and starts to believe it can be as good as the defense, the Gators could surprise some people.
McElwain and the rest of us finally get a chance to see how the Gators look starting Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 13:39:33 GMT -5
UF's first week depth chart has a couple of surprises. Antonio Morrison is listed as the 1 at MLB and Martez Ivey is listed as a 2 at LT. McElwain said in his presser that both would play against New Mexico State: www.gatorzone.com/football/stats/depth.pdfI'm going on gut feeling, but I think Morrison and Ivey will sit out New Mexico State as there is no need to play Morrison and Ivey needs a week after having his knee scoped last Friday. The 3 players suspended for the first game aren't listed in the first depth chart, redshirt junior defensive lineman Alex McCalister, redshirt junior defensive back Marcus Maye, and senior receiver Latroy Pittman.
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Post by nitronole on Aug 31, 2015 14:05:40 GMT -5
Good! No Miami. After Michigan in 2017, the next slot Miami would have taken will go to another intersectional opponent: GatorCountry.com @gatorcountry Jeremy Foley says there is no plans to add Miami to the football schedule on a permanent basis right now. why do you dislike playing UM ??
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