suffering sunday browns flashback...

[mscott59]

...to the ineptitude from late 2014 to 2017 when they lost something like 50 of 55 games. ugh.

[Mickey34jb]

Sept 23, 2024 10:04:14 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

...to the ineptitude from late 2014 to 2017 when they lost something like 50 of 55 games. ugh.

That 2nd quarter was brutal with the turnover before halftime ....defense was balling all game too, shut them out in the 2nd half. Watson doesnt have an internal clock because damn he needs to take off running when the pocket is collapsing...the damn strip sack killed the team

[snap infraction]

the good news for the browns is they do have lots of talent and a really good coach. just sometimes you get one of those years where everything goes wrong. but in the NFL these days, you can bounce back pretty quickly.

[mscott59]

Oct 23, 2024 9:04:19 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the good news for the browns is they do have lots of talent and a really good coach. just sometimes you get one of those years where everything goes wrong. but in the NFL these days, you can bounce back pretty quickly.

as a lifetime browns fan who was 5 the last time they won a nfl title, have finished 1 game short of making the super bowl 5 times (and that was the late 60's-late 80s), since returning to the nfl after art modell moved the team to baltimore have had 21 losing seasons in 25 years, are about to make it 22 out of 26, and have a collective record of 102-240-1 in that time frame, please define 'quickly'. .

[daleko]

Oct 23, 2024 9:16:05 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Oct 23, 2024 9:04:19 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the good news for the browns is they do have lots of talent and a really good coach. just sometimes you get one of those years where everything goes wrong. but in the NFL these days, you can bounce back pretty quickly.

as a lifetime browns fan who was 5 the last time they won a nfl title, have finished 1 game short of making the super bowl 5 times (and that was the late 60's-late 80s), since returning to the nfl after art modell moved the team to baltimore have had 21 losing seasons in 25 years, are about to make it 22 out of 26, and have a collective record of 102-240-1 in that time frame, please define 'quickly'. .

Recent history suggests there is hope. In the last 25+ years, I think only two teams have had perfect records. Detroit and Cleveland. Look at Detroit today. Rumor has it Haslam wanted to bring back, Bernie Kosar only because Otto was dead. The Watson experiment was clearly a tragic error. But Cleveland isn't alone. Look at the Jets.

[oujour76]

Oct 23, 2024 9:16:05 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Oct 23, 2024 9:04:19 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the good news for the browns is they do have lots of talent and a really good coach. just sometimes you get one of those years where everything goes wrong. but in the NFL these days, you can bounce back pretty quickly.

as a lifetime browns fan who was 5 the last time they won a nfl title, have finished 1 game short of making the super bowl 5 times (and that was the late 60's-late 80s), since returning to the nfl after art modell moved the team to baltimore have had 21 losing seasons in 25 years, are about to make it 22 out of 26, and have a collective record of 102-240-1 in that time frame, please define 'quickly'. .

So….Baker going 29-30 in Cleveland was actually pretty damn good. Who knew? 😎

[mscott59]

Oct 23, 2024 20:31:19 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Oct 23, 2024 9:16:05 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

as a lifetime browns fan who was 5 the last time they won a nfl title, have finished 1 game short of making the super bowl 5 times (and that was the late 60's-late 80s), since returning to the nfl after art modell moved the team to baltimore have had 21 losing seasons in 25 years, are about to make it 22 out of 26, and have a collective record of 102-240-1 in that time frame, please define 'quickly'. .

So….Baker going 29-30 in Cleveland was actually pretty damn good. Who knew? 😎

the list I saw had baker at 30-30 as a starting qb, which not only makes him the winningest (by total wins) qb in the last quarter century, he's #8 on the all time list of browns qb's for total wins. brian sipe is 1st for total wins, going 62-63 in the late 70s-early 80's. otto graham is 2nd in total wins w/58, but easily #1 in win pct at 58-14, an amazing 80.6%. he doesn't get enough love as one of the all time nfl greats, but that was also 6 centuries ago. lol

[mscott59]

Oct 23, 2024 13:52:04 GMT -5 daleko said:

Oct 23, 2024 9:16:05 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

as a lifetime browns fan who was 5 the last time they won a nfl title, have finished 1 game short of making the super bowl 5 times (and that was the late 60's-late 80s), since returning to the nfl after art modell moved the team to baltimore have had 21 losing seasons in 25 years, are about to make it 22 out of 26, and have a collective record of 102-240-1 in that time frame, please define 'quickly'. .

Recent history suggests there is hope. In the last 25+ years, I think only two teams have had perfect records. Detroit and Cleveland. Look at Detroit today. Rumor has it Haslam wanted to bring back, Bernie Kosar only because Otto was dead. The Watson experiment was clearly a tragic error. But Cleveland isn't alone. Look at the Jets.

the jets may be hapless, but they still gave rodgers 'only' $75m in guaranteed salary. the browns gave watson $230m. this year's collapse is not just him... the o-line has been a m-a-s-h unit all season so far... but even when he's had time he's been very shaky.

[daleko]

Oct 25, 2024 8:32:43 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

the o-line has been a m-a-s-h unit all season so far...

And Joe Thomas played 10,363 consecutive snaps for the Browns. V today, hard to believe.

[mscott59]

well who could have guessed that jameis winston would be the spark for the browns offense? he played great, plus some divine intervention perhaps on the dropped pick coming the play before what turned out to be the winning td pass?? perhaps the divinity coming from the spirit of long time browns play-by-play announcer jim donovan, who passed away after multiple bouts w/cancer the day before? certainly was a ray of sunshine on a tough weekend and tough season for the team and for current/long suffering fans.

[Mickey34jb]

It's hard sometimes being a Browns fan....played right with them for 3 quarters.

[mscott59]

Nov 18, 2024 10:25:05 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

It's hard sometimes being a Browns fan....played right with them for 3 quarters.

you mean 'sometimes' as in 'some time from 1994 to today'?? . that 4th qtr was a disaster. thought winston was a little too pumped up to be back in the big easy... was overthrowing a ton yesterday.

[Mickey34jb]

Nov 18, 2024 11:12:23 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Nov 18, 2024 10:25:05 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

It's hard sometimes being a Browns fan....played right with them for 3 quarters.

you mean 'sometimes' as in 'some time from 1994 to today'?? . that 4th qtr was a disaster. thought winston was a little too pumped up to be back in the big easy... was overthrowing a ton yesterday.

since our last appearance in a championship game some 35 years ago...still can't find a franchise QB.

[mscott59]

Nov 19, 2024 0:42:58 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Nov 18, 2024 11:12:23 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

you mean 'sometimes' as in 'some time from 1994 to today'?? . that 4th qtr was a disaster. thought winston was a little too pumped up to be back in the big easy... was overthrowing a ton yesterday.

since our last appearance in a championship game some 35 years ago...still can't find a franchise QB.

2018 nfl draft. the browns had a chance to take a big kid who was used to the windy cold conditions like cleveland has. but they took baker mayfield as the #1 pick, who I didn't like but in his defense took the browns to the playoffs, won the franchise's 1st road post season game since 1968, played hurt for most of the next season and the front office used his grit against him by cutting him loose to sign watson. they passed on sam darnold in that draft too, and the big kid from wyoming fell to #7 and became a buffalo bill. he seems to have been doing ok there.

the browns did end up picking a mountain west guy in the 2nd round, o-lineman austin corbett from nevada. he played 1 year then 3 games into the '19 season cleveland trades him to the rams for a non-sensical 5th round draft pick in the '21 draft. 2 years later corbett is a key component on la's super bowl champs. that 5th round pick? safety richard lecounte from georgia, who like corbett was gone by the following season.

it's hard being a browns fan.

[Mickey34jb]

Nov 19, 2024 9:33:43 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Nov 19, 2024 0:42:58 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

since our last appearance in a championship game some 35 years ago...still can't find a franchise QB.

2018 nfl draft. the browns had a chance to take a big kid who was used to the windy cold conditions like cleveland has. but they took baker mayfield as the #1 pick, who I didn't like but in his defense took the browns to the playoffs, won the franchise's 1st road post season game since 1968, played hurt for most of the next season and the front office used his grit against him by cutting him loose to sign watson. they passed on sam darnold in that draft too, and the big kid from wyoming fell to #7 and became a buffalo bill. he seems to have been doing ok there.

the browns did end up picking a mountain west guy in the 2nd round, o-lineman austin corbett from nevada. he played 1 year then 3 games into the '19 season cleveland trades him to the rams for a non-sensical 5th round draft pick in the '21 draft. 2 years later corbett is a key component on la's super bowl champs. that 5th round pick? safety richard lecounte from georgia, who like corbett was gone by the following season.

it's hard being a browns fan.

I thought Brady Quinn was going to be the franchise QB when they drafted him in 2007 along with Joe Thomas....Brady fizzled out and now he criticizes quarterbacks on Fox Sports...smh