Stages of Grief

[Walter]

Nov 6, 2024 18:22:27 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 6, 2024 17:49:17 GMT -5 Walter said:

If you want to take a crack at explaining why Arnold Palmer's dick became a campaign theme, I'm keen to hear it. If you can explain why bragging about grabbing women by the pussy isn't disqualifying in a candidate, please explain it. If you can explain why beating up political opponents is considered a legitimate political tactic, go for it. In short, all the things 15 year old boys think about, Trump has talked about at one time or the other, and it appears to have met with approval by the 'bros'.

I gotta ask. Given there was a 10% gender gap, by your logic, are you suggesting the 44%, the % women voters who voted for Trump, like being grabbed by the pussy? Or agreed it was OK? I'll disagree. IAC, JBJ was proud of Jumbo. Claimed that size matters. Once claimed it got him votes in TX, w women.

You're free to take a whack at why a guy who bragged about groping women and was convicted in a civil trial of sexually assaulting a woman would get ANY votes from women. Cuz I don't get it. Had LBJ had that track record, Goldwater would have been elected.

[daleko]

Nov 6, 2024 18:42:06 GMT -5 Walter said:

Had LBJ had that track record, Goldwater would have been elected.

No.

And you underestimate the value of having a big DICK.   

[Panama pfRedd]

Nov 6, 2024 18:57:22 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 6, 2024 18:42:06 GMT -5 Walter said:

Had LBJ had that track record, Goldwater would have been elected.

No.

And you underestimate the value of having a big DICK.   

Say what, Holmes? 😋

[drjensen]

Nov 6, 2024 18:57:22 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 6, 2024 18:42:06 GMT -5 Walter said:

Had LBJ had that track record, Goldwater would have been elected.

No.

And you underestimate the value of having a big DICK.   

Maybe someone is experiencing penis envy. 

[kaz]

Nov 6, 2024 16:50:34 GMT -5 canefan said:

Nov 6, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -5 Walter said:

IMO, by ' more appealing', you mean, "stop nominating women".
The 'Bro' vote put Trump over the top. Talking about big dicks, beating up people, and sexually assaulting women was an actual part of Trump's campaign in response to his female opponent; and it worked.

You have a remarkedly peculiar take on things.

Well, he is a remarkedly peculiar human being (?). With an obsession for big dicks, apparently.

[kaz]

Nov 6, 2024 18:42:06 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 6, 2024 18:22:27 GMT -5 daleko said:

I gotta ask. Given there was a 10% gender gap, by your logic, are you suggesting the 44%, the % women voters who voted for Trump, like being grabbed by the pussy? Or agreed it was OK? I'll disagree. IAC, JBJ was proud of Jumbo. Claimed that size matters. Once claimed it got him votes in TX, w women.

You're free to take a whack at why a guy who bragged about groping women and was convicted in a civil trial of sexually assaulting a woman would get ANY votes from women. Cuz I don't get it. Had LBJ had that track record, Goldwater would have been elected.

Maybe they're smart enough to realize that the 19-year old Billy Bush video was locker room chat between guys, and the sexual assault trial was just a ploy to try to hurt his election chances. Didn't work. Too bad for you, hahaha.

[Panama pfRedd]

The leftist comedy gold that Trump has delivered unto us by winning is golden!

[snap infraction]

Nov 6, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 6, 2024 15:59:36 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i was angry for like 3 minutes. depressed until i fell asleep. but woke up accepting the results.

i'm not in any grief today.

i am very disappointed. but hopefully the democratic party uses this moment to reflect and become more appealing to more voters.

IMO, by ' more appealing', you mean, "stop nominating women".
The 'Bro' vote put Trump over the top. Talking about big dicks, beating up people, and sexually assaulting women was an actual part of Trump's campaign in response to his female opponent; and it worked.

i think trump has a certain machismo quality that younger men found appealing.  you can see it with joe rogan and other internet personalities that younger men listen to.  and i do think a woman candidate has more difficult obstacles to overcome than a male candidate.   but while kamala is an ok politician but she wasn't the unique talent that was going to shatter the glass ceiling.  

this is a time for self-reflection.  we yell and yell about all of trumps flaws.  and he has a ton.  but yelling about trumps flaws clearly is not a winning campaign message.  you need to also connect with voters as well.  kamala didn't.   dems need to find someone who can.  

[Panama pfRedd]

Nov 7, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Nov 6, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -5 Walter said:

IMO, by ' more appealing', you mean, "stop nominating women".
The 'Bro' vote put Trump over the top. Talking about big dicks, beating up people, and sexually assaulting women was an actual part of Trump's campaign in response to his female opponent; and it worked.

i think trump has a certain machismo quality that younger men found appealing.  you can see it with joe rogan and other internet personalities that younger men listen to.  and i do think a woman candidate has more difficult obstacles to overcome than a male candidate.   but while kamala is an ok politician but she wasn't the unique talent that was going to shatter the glass ceiling.  

this is a time for self-reflection.  we yell and yell about all of trumps flaws.  and he has a ton.  but yelling about trumps flaws clearly is not a winning campaign message.  you need to also connect with voters as well.  kamala didn't.   dems need to find someone who can.  

did you ever self-reflect and yell about the bottomless well of kommielas flaws?

[snap infraction]

Nov 7, 2024 9:48:27 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Nov 7, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i think trump has a certain machismo quality that younger men found appealing.  you can see it with joe rogan and other internet personalities that younger men listen to.  and i do think a woman candidate has more difficult obstacles to overcome than a male candidate.   but while kamala is an ok politician but she wasn't the unique talent that was going to shatter the glass ceiling.  

this is a time for self-reflection.  we yell and yell about all of trumps flaws.  and he has a ton.  but yelling about trumps flaws clearly is not a winning campaign message.  you need to also connect with voters as well.  kamala didn't.   dems need to find someone who can.  

did you ever self-reflect and yell about the bottomless well of kommielas flaws?

no.  i found trump to be far worse.  he's a truly awful person.  but the voters picked him.  so i have to accept it and the democratic party learns from this and does better.  

[oujour76]

Nov 7, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Nov 6, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -5 Walter said:

IMO, by ' more appealing', you mean, "stop nominating women".
The 'Bro' vote put Trump over the top. Talking about big dicks, beating up people, and sexually assaulting women was an actual part of Trump's campaign in response to his female opponent; and it worked.

i think trump has a certain machismo quality that younger men found appealing.  you can see it with joe rogan and other internet personalities that younger men listen to.  and i do think a woman candidate has more difficult obstacles to overcome than a male candidate.   but while kamala is an ok politician but she wasn't the unique talent that was going to shatter the glass ceiling.  

this is a time for self-reflection.  we yell and yell about all of trumps flaws.  and he has a ton.  but yelling about trumps flaws clearly is not a winning campaign message.  you need to also connect with voters as well.  kamala didn't.   dems need to find someone who can.  

In a word…yes. The Dems forgot about their base a long time ago. And it has come back to bite them in the ass.

[canefan]

Nov 6, 2024 20:51:51 GMT -5 drjensen said:

Nov 6, 2024 18:57:22 GMT -5 daleko said:

No.

And you underestimate the value of having a big DICK.   

Maybe someone is experiencing penis envy. 

Did y'all know that walruses, out of all mammals, have the second largest penis. I have the first.

[oujour76]

Nov 7, 2024 10:08:29 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Nov 7, 2024 9:48:27 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

did you ever self-reflect and yell about the bottomless well of kommielas flaws?

no.  i found trump to be far worse.  he's a truly awful person.  but the voters picked him.  so i have to accept it and the democratic party learns from this and does better.  

Had this very conversation with my (Democrat) father just yesterday. Even he agreed with me….the Democrat party leadership is way too smart to learn anything.

[Panama pfRedd]

Nov 7, 2024 10:08:29 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Nov 7, 2024 9:48:27 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

did you ever self-reflect and yell about the bottomless well of kommielas flaws?

no.  i found trump to be far worse.  he's a truly awful person.  but the voters picked him.  so i have to accept it and the democratic party learns from this and does better.  

Your stupid irrational opinion of PDJT means exactly squat.

[snap infraction]

Nov 7, 2024 10:33:16 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 7, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i think trump has a certain machismo quality that younger men found appealing.  you can see it with joe rogan and other internet personalities that younger men listen to.  and i do think a woman candidate has more difficult obstacles to overcome than a male candidate.   but while kamala is an ok politician but she wasn't the unique talent that was going to shatter the glass ceiling.  

this is a time for self-reflection.  we yell and yell about all of trumps flaws.  and he has a ton.  but yelling about trumps flaws clearly is not a winning campaign message.  you need to also connect with voters as well.  kamala didn't.   dems need to find someone who can.  

In a word…yes. The Dems forgot about their base a long time ago. And it has come back to bite them in the ass.

i don't disagree.  kamala wasn't chosen as biden's running mate b/c she was the most qualified, she was chosen b/c biden thought adding a woman would help him win.  and then when dems ignored bidens inability to campaign effectively until just a few months ago, everyone flocked to her rather than have a process where primary voters were able to express their interest.  

dems need someone who does more than just go on the view and show up to campaign events with beyonce.   they need someone the working class related to.  it seemed kamala was only trying to win over suburban housewives.  someone need to step up.  trump is atrocious but people like the combative, eff you energy that he brings.  people relate to him being angry all the time.