paterno suing penn state (but not really)

[ihs82]

www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/02/its_paterno_vs_penn_state_in_l.html

paterno added penn state as a nominal defendant as required by the judge in order to overturn the consent decree. but the family is stressing they are not seeking any damages from penn state.

ex psu coaches claim that they were unable to gain employment for positions they were qualified for because of the ncaa's actions against penn state.

pa attorney general kathleen kane recently gave an update into her investigation into gov corbett's and his office's handling of sandusky when he was attorney general. sounds promising for those who believe cobett messed up. here's the full comment:



“Approximately one year ago I appointed H. Geoffrey Moulton Jr. to lead the Office of Attorney General’s (OAG) internal review of the Sandusky child sexual abuse investigation. At that time, I stated that Mr. Moulton would ‘?assist [OAG] in providing a comprehensive and independent examination of the facts surrounding the handling of the Sandusky investigation’ and that, ‘once the facts have been uncovered [OAG] will make these findings available to the public.’

“Mr. Moulton has been both thorough and diligent, reviewing and analyzing a substantial documentary record and, despite not having the power to compel testimony through subpoena, interviewing a wide range of witnesses.

“However, certain factors have combined to slow the process, not all of which were anticipated. Chief among them have been significant and time-consuming challenges in obtaining important written records, particularly emails. For reasons that will be described in more detail when the report is made public, until last fall we believed that OAG emails for the relevant time period had been permanently removed from OAG storage systems (pursuant to a then-existing document-retention policy) and were unrecoverable. Since then, we have developed a recovery process that is ongoing.

“Two additional factors will affect the completion and subsequent release of the report. First, because the report will discuss matters occurring before the grand jury that have not previously been made public, the OAG will need judicial approval before releasing the report. We have been working with the assigned grand jury judge on this issue. Second, before the report is made public, due process and fairness require that certain individuals discussed in the report be afforded the opportunity to review and comment on those aspects of the report that pertain to them. In consultation with the supervising grand jury judge, we hope to complete this process as expeditiously as possible.

“The release of the review findings will be determined only by the time necessary to complete a comprehensive review. I remain fully committed to that approach. Pennsylvanians deserve the full and true story, and I will not permit a rush to judgment to interfere with a thorough review.

“We are now one full year into the review and it is appropriate to provide Pennsylvanians with an update on its status. I have no plans for additional comment between now and the release of the review findings.”

[AlaCowboy]

And to think y'all make fun of the Bammers for their devotion to Bear Bryant. Will this never go away?

[ihs82]

Feb 10, 2014 17:06:43 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

And to think y'all make fun of the Bammers for their devotion to Bear Bryant. Will this never go away?

i make fun of bammers for taking credit for every national title between 1776 and 1939. never made fun of them for bear bryant. and i never saw anyone who did. and i fail to see the relevance to the article i posted. paternos are the only ones fighting for penn state. they had to step up when penn state failed to fight for penn state.

[mscott59]

Feb 11, 2014 11:06:30 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

Feb 10, 2014 17:06:43 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

And to think y'all make fun of the Bammers for their devotion to Bear Bryant. Will this never go away?

i make fun of bammers for taking credit for every national title between 1776 and 1939. never made fun of them for bear bryant. and i never saw anyone who did. and i fail to see the relevance to the article i posted. paternos are the only ones fighting for penn state. they had to step up when penn state failed to fight for penn state.

you think the paternos are fighting for psu? seriously?

mark scott
tosu 81

[ihs82]

Feb 11, 2014 11:43:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 11, 2014 11:06:30 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

i make fun of bammers for taking credit for every national title between 1776 and 1939. never made fun of them for bear bryant. and i never saw anyone who did. and i fail to see the relevance to the article i posted. paternos are the only ones fighting for penn state. they had to step up when penn state failed to fight for penn state.

you think the paternos are fighting for psu? seriously?

mark scott
tosu 81

the plaintiffs in the case against the ncaa are:

GEORGE SCOTT PATERNO, as duly appointed representative of the ESTATE and FAMILY of JOSEPH PATERNO;
RYAN MCCOMBIE, ANTHONY LUBRANO, AL CLEMENS, PETER KHOURY, and ADAM TALIAFERRO, members of the Board of Trustees of Pennsylvania State University
PETER BORDI, TERRY ENGELDER, SPENCER NILES, and JOHN O’DONNELL, members of the faculty of Pennsylvania State University
WILLIAM KENNEY and JOSEPH V. (“JAY”) PATERNO, former football coaches at Pennsylvania State University
ANTHONY ADAMS, GERALD CADOGAN,SHAMAR FINNEY, JUSTIN KURPEIKIS,RICHARD GARDNER, JOSH GAINES, PATRICK MAUTI,ANWAR PHILLIPS, and MICHAEL ROBINSON


So you have the Paterno estate, members of the board of trustees, faculty members of the university, former coaches and ex players. So yes, this is a fight for PSU. Not just the legacy of Joe Paterno.

[oujour76]

Feb 11, 2014 11:56:44 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

Feb 11, 2014 11:43:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

you think the paternos are fighting for psu? seriously?

mark scott
tosu 81

the plaintiffs in the case against the ncaa are:

GEORGE SCOTT PATERNO, as duly appointed representative of the ESTATE and FAMILY of JOSEPH PATERNO;
RYAN MCCOMBIE, ANTHONY LUBRANO, AL CLEMENS, PETER KHOURY, and ADAM TALIAFERRO, members of the Board of Trustees of Pennsylvania State University
PETER BORDI, TERRY ENGELDER, SPENCER NILES, and JOHN O’DONNELL, members of the faculty of Pennsylvania State University
WILLIAM KENNEY and JOSEPH V. (“JAY”) PATERNO, former football coaches at Pennsylvania State University
ANTHONY ADAMS, GERALD CADOGAN,SHAMAR FINNEY, JUSTIN KURPEIKIS,RICHARD GARDNER, JOSH GAINES, PATRICK MAUTI,ANWAR PHILLIPS, and MICHAEL ROBINSON


So you have the Paterno estate, members of the board of trustees, faculty members of the university, former coaches and ex players. So yes, this is a fight for PSU. Not just the legacy of Joe Paterno.

Politics and lawsuits make for strange bedfellows.

[mscott59]

Feb 11, 2014 11:56:44 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

Feb 11, 2014 11:43:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

you think the paternos are fighting for psu? seriously?

mark scott
tosu 81

the plaintiffs in the case against the ncaa are:

GEORGE SCOTT PATERNO, as duly appointed representative of the ESTATE and FAMILY of JOSEPH PATERNO;
RYAN MCCOMBIE, ANTHONY LUBRANO, AL CLEMENS, PETER KHOURY, and ADAM TALIAFERRO, members of the Board of Trustees of Pennsylvania State University
PETER BORDI, TERRY ENGELDER, SPENCER NILES, and JOHN O’DONNELL, members of the faculty of Pennsylvania State University
WILLIAM KENNEY and JOSEPH V. (“JAY”) PATERNO, former football coaches at Pennsylvania State University
ANTHONY ADAMS, GERALD CADOGAN,SHAMAR FINNEY, JUSTIN KURPEIKIS,RICHARD GARDNER, JOSH GAINES, PATRICK MAUTI,ANWAR PHILLIPS, and MICHAEL ROBINSON


So you have the Paterno estate, members of the board of trustees, faculty members of the university, former coaches and ex players. So yes, this is a fight for PSU. Not just the legacy of Joe Paterno.

if joe paterno had died before he was let go, the paternos would not be involved in this. sorry... maybe in name, but the paternos are involved because joepa's legacy was smeared at the end. period.

mark scott
tosu 81

[ihs82]

Feb 11, 2014 12:15:10 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 11, 2014 11:56:44 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

the plaintiffs in the case against the ncaa are:

GEORGE SCOTT PATERNO, as duly appointed representative of the ESTATE and FAMILY of JOSEPH PATERNO;
RYAN MCCOMBIE, ANTHONY LUBRANO, AL CLEMENS, PETER KHOURY, and ADAM TALIAFERRO, members of the Board of Trustees of Pennsylvania State University
PETER BORDI, TERRY ENGELDER, SPENCER NILES, and JOHN O’DONNELL, members of the faculty of Pennsylvania State University
WILLIAM KENNEY and JOSEPH V. (“JAY”) PATERNO, former football coaches at Pennsylvania State University
ANTHONY ADAMS, GERALD CADOGAN,SHAMAR FINNEY, JUSTIN KURPEIKIS,RICHARD GARDNER, JOSH GAINES, PATRICK MAUTI,ANWAR PHILLIPS, and MICHAEL ROBINSON


So you have the Paterno estate, members of the board of trustees, faculty members of the university, former coaches and ex players. So yes, this is a fight for PSU. Not just the legacy of Joe Paterno.

if joe paterno had died before he was let go, the paternos would not be involved in this. sorry... maybe in name, but the paternos are involved because joepa's legacy was smeared at the end. period.

mark scott
tosu 81

i believe the ultimate agenda of the paternos is to discredit the freeh report, which is what the ncaa based its actions on and is what perpetuated the false narrative in the media. nothing to do with when paterno died. the ncaa is sort of a proxy of freeh. you discredit the ncaa, you discredit freeh. and they can't simply sue louis freeh. i don't have proof of this, but it is likely that paternos made an agreement with the university that they would receive all the benefits paterno was entitled to had paterno simply retired if the family promised not to sue freeh.

[mscott59]

Feb 11, 2014 12:49:29 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

Feb 11, 2014 12:15:10 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

if joe paterno had died before he was let go, the paternos would not be involved in this. sorry... maybe in name, but the paternos are involved because joepa's legacy was smeared at the end. period.

mark scott
tosu 81

i believe the ultimate agenda of the paternos is to discredit the freeh report, which is what the ncaa based its actions on and is what perpetuated the false narrative in the media. nothing to do with when paterno died. the ncaa is sort of a proxy of freeh. you discredit the ncaa, you discredit freeh. and they can't simply sue louis freeh. i don't have proof of this, but it is likely that paternos made an agreement with the university that they would receive all the benefits paterno was entitled to had paterno simply retired if the family promised not to sue freeh.

your correct imho in the agenda, but not the ultimate objective, which is to save paterno's reputation. psu is secondary.

mark scott
tosu 81

[ihs82]

Feb 11, 2014 13:01:09 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 11, 2014 12:49:29 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

i believe the ultimate agenda of the paternos is to discredit the freeh report, which is what the ncaa based its actions on and is what perpetuated the false narrative in the media. nothing to do with when paterno died. the ncaa is sort of a proxy of freeh. you discredit the ncaa, you discredit freeh. and they can't simply sue louis freeh. i don't have proof of this, but it is likely that paternos made an agreement with the university that they would receive all the benefits paterno was entitled to had paterno simply retired if the family promised not to sue freeh.

your correct imho in the agenda, but not the ultimate objective, which is to save paterno's reputation. psu is secondary.

mark scott
tosu 81

ultimately, the paterno family objective cannot be proven or disproven. although, they are on the record of saying all proceeds from successful litigation will be donated.

however, i will point out that it is funny that the paterno family can have their motives questioned, but questioning and criticizing the motives of others such as louis freeh, the psu bot, gov corbett and mark emmert is not cool.

[mscott59]

Feb 11, 2014 13:41:17 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

Feb 11, 2014 13:01:09 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

your correct imho in the agenda, but not the ultimate objective, which is to save paterno's reputation. psu is secondary.

mark scott
tosu 81

ultimately, the paterno family objective cannot be proven or disproven. although, they are on the record of saying all proceeds from successful litigation will be donated.

however, i will point out that it is funny that the paterno family can have their motives questioned, but questioning and criticizing the motives of others such as louis freeh, the psu bot, gov corbett and mark emmert is not cool.

oh my god. you are absolutely hopeless, or blind, or both, when it comes to this issue.

mark scott
tosu 81

[ihs82]

Feb 11, 2014 13:42:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 11, 2014 13:41:17 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

ultimately, the paterno family objective cannot be proven or disproven. although, they are on the record of saying all proceeds from successful litigation will be donated.

however, i will point out that it is funny that the paterno family can have their motives questioned, but questioning and criticizing the motives of others such as louis freeh, the psu bot, gov corbett and mark emmert is not cool.

oh my god. you are absolutely hopeless, or blind, or both, when it comes to this issue.

mark scott
tosu 81

maybe.

here's a list imo of objectives by parties involved:

sandusky - sadistic weirdo/pervert with sexual desires fulfilled by children

corbett - badly wanted to be governor. delayed prosecuting sandusky so he didn't risk upsetting a large voting segment of the state.

joe paterno - thought sandusky was a weirdo. didn't see others around sandusky urgently trying to do something about his weird behaviors. therefore thought going all chuck norris on an ex employee might be bad.

psu bot - experts in public relations came in and told them best strategy was to not search for truth but to just take a hit as quickly as possible and move on.

mike mcqueary - thinking about advancing his career in coaching. didn't want to burn bridges by making a big deal out of something that may not have been a big deal. told his father and his fathers mandated reporter friend. none of them thought going chuck norris on sandusky was a good idea either based on what mcqueary heard.

mark emmert - paranoid about his perception in media. wanted to show world how big his d*ck was. still gets off when dan wetzel say something nice about him.

louis freeh - just started a private investigation firm. wanted to make national headlines. that's why he released report day after baseball all star game when there was no sports being played. implicated paterno b/c he knew paterno's involvement would get biggest headlines. figured he was untouchable given his ex job and the fact that he somehow avoided scrutiny for pinning olympic bombing on an innocent man. ncaa was curious about possibility of outsourcing enforcement actions to 3rd party companies so this was a bit of an experiment for them.

paterno family - thought there was a grave injustice by how media/ncaa reacted to paterno's involvement.

ihs82 - loves penn state. hates corrupt politicians and spineless university leaders. and especially hates systems that fail to protect children from harm. and really hates with no one questions the real reasons why systems fail. instead, they concentrate on irrelevant aspects that make self righteous pundits feel good about themselves as they lecture ignorant audiences.

[oujour76]

Feb 11, 2014 13:42:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 11, 2014 13:41:17 GMT -5 ihs82 said:

ultimately, the paterno family objective cannot be proven or disproven. although, they are on the record of saying all proceeds from successful litigation will be donated.

however, i will point out that it is funny that the paterno family can have their motives questioned, but questioning and criticizing the motives of others such as louis freeh, the psu bot, gov corbett and mark emmert is not cool.

oh my god. you are absolutely hopeless, or blind, or both, when it comes to this issue.

mark scott
tosu 81

My vote is both.