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Post by Buckeye Dale on Aug 17, 2016 15:10:37 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. Just curious, why did you watch Miami over Nebraska and LSU over Oklahoma? Nobody knew who was going to win those games and neither Nebraska nor Oklahoma won the Big 12, both losing in the Big 12 CG. They lost their last game of the season before the last BCS ranking yet played for the national championship. It appears to me that your protest is about bama winning coupled with it being an all-SEC matchup that season. If the best two teams in the nation one day reside in the BIG, I hope you will be just as strong in your opposition. I don't believe you will, but that is my hope for you. Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed...
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Aug 17, 2016 15:11:35 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. So if a similar situation had happened to Osu where they didn't win their conference (division) and they made the NCG anyway, you wouldn't watch the game?Never happen...OSU doesn't get the BSPiN talking heads' benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 15:12:37 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. So if a similar situation had happened to Osu where they didn't win their conference (division) and they made the NCG anyway, you wouldn't watch the game?Watch the game? He'd pay whatever it takes to be there. You have to understand the bucknut mindset. The bucknuts deserve favoritism payed for with large numbers of traveling fans and a good historical all-time record. Nobody else deserves it, just The Ohio State University.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 15:26:15 GMT -5
Just curious, why did you watch Miami over Nebraska and LSU over Oklahoma? Nobody knew who was going to win those games and neither Nebraska nor Oklahoma won the Big 12, both losing in the Big 12 CG. They lost their last game of the season before the last BCS ranking yet played for the national championship. It appears to me that your protest is about bama winning coupled with it being an all-SEC matchup that season. If the best two teams in the nation one day reside in the BIG, I hope you will be just as strong in your opposition. I don't believe you will, but that is my hope for you. Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed... It's was all about the best two teams regardless of the mulligan. Oklahoma State lost at home late to a bad team. It's not like there was a real good alternative.
The bucknuts lost by double digits to sub .500 Virginia Tech. Losing at home didn't carry extra strikes against tOSU in the 14 national championship run. Just ask TCU and Baylor. What's fair for the goose is never fair for the gander. tOSU can't be heaped with enough preferential treatment.
UF won the SEC and didn't lose the last game of the season. Michigan is the only team I've ever seen to lose and not drop in the polls. First they dropped behind USC. Thanks to UCLA upsetting the trojans, UF got the chance to be disrespected for 5 weeks before destroying the bucknuts. However, be honest, Lloyd Carr and the BIG was rooting for, lobbying for, a tOSU/UM rematch and would have taken it if offered. BSPN was lobbying for it too. The network was openly rooting for a rematch. UF's SECCG win earned enough points for UF to pass Michigan. The BCS system worked while all others were trying to keep it from working.
All I see here is hypocrisy in believing what is okay for one team, Ohio State, or one conference, the BIG, isn't okay for anyone else.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Aug 17, 2016 15:45:17 GMT -5
Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed... It's was all about the best two teams regardless of the mulligan. Oklahoma State lost at home late to a bad team. It's not like there was a real good alternative.
The bucknuts lost by double digits to sub .500 Virginia Tech. Losing at home didn't carry extra strikes against tOSU in the 14 national championship run. Just ask TCU and Baylor. What's fair for the goose is never fair for the gander. tOSU can't be heaped with enough preferential treatment.
UF won the SEC and didn't lose the last game of the season. Michigan is the only team I've ever seen to lose and not drop in the polls. First they dropped behind USC. Thanks to UCLA upsetting the trojans, UF got the chance to be disrespected for 5 weeks before destroying the bucknuts. However, be honest, Lloyd Carr and the BIG was rooting for, lobbying for, a tOSU/UM rematch and would have taken it if offered. BSPN was lobbying for it too. The network was openly rooting for a rematch. UF's SECCG win earned enough points for UF to pass Michigan. The BCS system worked while all others were trying to keep it from working.
All I see here is hypocrisy in believing what is okay for one team, Ohio State, or one conference, the BIG, isn't okay for anyone else.
WTF are you talking about? Can't you READ, or do you need an ESL translator after living in Spanish Florida for so long? You're so wrong, it borders on telling a lie. I'll say again, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own (incorrect) facts.
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Post by cbisbig on Aug 17, 2016 15:53:42 GMT -5
So if a similar situation had happened to Osu where they didn't win their conference (division) and they made the NCG anyway, you wouldn't watch the game? Never happen...OSU doesn't get the BSPiN talking heads' benefit of the doubt. Its a hypothetical question
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Post by cbisbig on Aug 17, 2016 16:02:44 GMT -5
Just curious, why did you watch Miami over Nebraska and LSU over Oklahoma? Nobody knew who was going to win those games and neither Nebraska nor Oklahoma won the Big 12, both losing in the Big 12 CG. They lost their last game of the season before the last BCS ranking yet played for the national championship. It appears to me that your protest is about bama winning coupled with it being an all-SEC matchup that season. If the best two teams in the nation one day reside in the BIG, I hope you will be just as strong in your opposition. I don't believe you will, but that is my hope for you. Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed... Lol that one always gets me. New Orleans is 73 miles from Baton Rouge and 270 miles from Tuscaloosa and its a "Neutral Site game"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 16:15:54 GMT -5
Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed... Lol that one always gets me. New Orleans is 73 miles from Baton Rouge and 270 miles from Tuscaloosa and its a "Neutral Site game"Bama travels well. I doubt LSU had the fan advantage inside the Super Dome. It was a neutral site game. Mileage has little to do with it being a neutral site. Maybe if bama played UCLA in the Rose Bowl I'd feel differently. However, I don't think location had anything to do with the argument. It could have been the first college football game to be played on the moon and they wouldn't have watched. It was because it was an all-SEC clash and bama won the mulligan.
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Post by cbisbig on Aug 17, 2016 16:26:48 GMT -5
Lol that one always gets me. New Orleans is 73 miles from Baton Rouge and 270 miles from Tuscaloosa and its a "Neutral Site game" Bama travels well. I doubt LSU had the fan advantage inside the Super Dome. It was a neutral site game. Mileage has little to do with it being a neutral site. Maybe if bama played UCLA in the Rose Bowl I'd feel differently. However, I don't think location had anything to do with the argument. It could have been the first college football game to be played on the moon and they wouldn't have watched. It was because it was an all-SEC clash and bama won the mulligan. Kinda getting away from the original question to Mark which was would he watch Osu play in that game if they got there the same way BAMA did. I don't really care about where the game was played. But I stand by my nuetral site comment. The state of Louisiana is for Lsu, yes BAMA travels well, but the SD holds about 80k people. No way there were more BAMA fans than Lsu fans, and to think that Lsu did'nt have some sort of "Home field advantage" given the location is absurd
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 16:47:51 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. So if a similar situation had happened to Osu where they didn't win their conference (division) and they made the NCG anyway, you wouldn't watch the game?i don't know, to be honest. that said, back in '06 when plenty of people were claiming that osu and um should play again in the bcs title game, i was 100% against it. i said the winner of that game deserved to be in the bcs final... the loser did not... because the loser did not win their league. i felt that way in '06, i felt that way in '11 re alabama, and the day when a 2nd place team who doesn't win their league gets into a 4 team playoff, i';m pretty sure i'll feel the same way. whether it's osu, alabama, appy state, whoever. because i believe that will be the day cfb loses me.
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 16:49:35 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. Ha, just like the year y'all played Oregon, I watched Finding Bigfoot instead of the NC game. you have your choice as any viewer does. but in '14 osu won their league. so did oregon. in '11, alabama did not. that's the difference. but you already knew that.
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 16:50:57 GMT -5
So if a similar situation had happened to Osu where they didn't win their conference (division) and they made the NCG anyway, you wouldn't watch the game? Watch the game? He'd pay whatever it takes to be there. You have to understand the bucknut mindset. The bucknuts deserve favoritism payed for with large numbers of traveling fans and a good historical all-time record. Nobody else deserves it, just The Ohio State University. and once again, et, you show how much of a dumbass you can be. especially when it comes to me. you don't know shit... but that doesn't keep you from making predictions... lmao.
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 17:04:24 GMT -5
again, i'm shocked. lol. alabama was obviously good in '11 but they had no business being in that game. which is why, of all those games listed above, that is the one that i neither watched on tv nor in person. Just curious, why did you watch Miami over Nebraska and LSU over Oklahoma? Nobody knew who was going to win those games and neither Nebraska nor Oklahoma won the Big 12, both losing in the Big 12 CG. They lost their last game of the season before the last BCS ranking yet played for the national championship. It appears to me that your protest is about bama winning coupled with it being an all-SEC matchup that season. If the best two teams in the nation one day reside in the BIG, I hope you will be just as strong in your opposition. I don't believe you will, but that is my hope for you. i can tell you exactly where i was for both of those games. for the miami-nebraska game i was playing poker with 4 other buddies. we did have the game in the background on tv, but no one was paying much attention; after unl got pasted by 4 td's by colorado, yet still qualified for the title game, we didn't have much interest. but i will admit the game was on. for the lsu-oklahoma game, i was up in boardman, oh, near youngstown, at a party hosted by some buddies of bob stoops, as a guest of my brother in law who knew them. again, imho ou didn't deserve to be in since they didn't win their league, but in my surroundings i was trying to fit in. i watched some of it. and i'll repeat what i told cb... back in '06, there was plenty of buzz about osu and um playing a 2nd time, regardless of the outcome of their season finale. if we could go back on the old aol boards you would be able to see that i was 100% against it, regardless of whether osu won or lost. so what you believe, like everything when it relates to osu, is full of shit in this instance too.
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 17:07:21 GMT -5
Ha, just like the year y'all played Oregon, I watched Finding Bigfoot instead of the NC game. you have your choice as any viewer does. but in '14 osu won their league. so did oregon. in '11, alabama did not. that's the difference. but you already knew that. btw, i attended last year's alabama-clemson title game. but not the osu-oregon game.
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Post by mscott59 on Aug 17, 2016 17:16:56 GMT -5
Can't and won't attempt to speak for Mark; but (as I've never watched the Mulligan Bowl either), neither of your two examples was a do-over on top of the other stuff that common people bitched about. LSWho beat Bama IN THIER HOUSE, and Bama's win was at a neutral site. Seems to me that losing at home should count as extra strikes against. If you'd go back to late 2006, you'll see just about EVERY Buckeye saying that Missed Again should not get a second chance...how fortunate for you that the writers/BSPiN talking heads agreed... It's was all about the best two teams regardless of the mulligan. Oklahoma State lost at home late to a bad team. It's not like there was a real good alternative.
The bucknuts lost by double digits to sub .500 Virginia Tech. Losing at home didn't carry extra strikes against tOSU in the 14 national championship run. Just ask TCU and Baylor. What's fair for the goose is never fair for the gander. tOSU can't be heaped with enough preferential treatment.
UF won the SEC and didn't lose the last game of the season. Michigan is the only team I've ever seen to lose and not drop in the polls. First they dropped behind USC. Thanks to UCLA upsetting the trojans, UF got the chance to be disrespected for 5 weeks before destroying the bucknuts. However, be honest, Lloyd Carr and the BIG was rooting for, lobbying for, a tOSU/UM rematch and would have taken it if offered. BSPN was lobbying for it too. The network was openly rooting for a rematch. UF's SECCG win earned enough points for UF to pass Michigan. The BCS system worked while all others were trying to keep it from working.
All I see here is hypocrisy in believing what is okay for one team, Ohio State, or one conference, the BIG, isn't okay for anyone else.
yep, the va tech loss was a shaky one, there back in week 2. and just like any team with a loss, like last year when alabama benefitted from ol' miss losing a 2nd league game, thanks in part to a desperation blind over the shoulder lateral by arkansas, osu got some help. what you, in your seemingly permanent blinders when it comes to all things osu, keep refusing to see, is what osu did in '14 after their loss. they beat #7 michigan st on the road by a couple td's. they beat #11 wisconsin in the big 10 ccg 59-0, the worst loss absorbed by a top 15 team, at any point in the season, in ages. that mattered too. osu finished the season stronger than any other team in the country. and they continued that roll by hanging 42 points and 500+ total yards on alabama then holding oregon's track on grass offense to 2 td's. what i see here, plain and simple, is your bias. excuse me, your latest example of bias.
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