chase utleys slide??

[snap infraction]

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

[oldgraylady]

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

Wow.

[Buckeye Dale]

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

I have a 3" scar on my right inner leg, just above my knee where a Pony League player tried to take me out with his spikes while I was taking the throw at third base to catch him stealing...If he'd gone for the bag instead of my leg, he probably would have been safe...he was out, and I did fall on him kinda hard...BUT - it's all part of the game, and has been for a long time.  Read about Ty Cobb...
Dirty?  No way in hell...

[mscott59]

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

the bitter nyc media comment not withstanding, that was not a slide into 2nd base to break up a double play. utley was already on top of the bag before starting to go into a slide (i use that term loosely). his body was upright, on top of his knees, as he went 3-4 feet right of the bag into tejada's body. if i was a mets pitcher, every first pitch to utley, once he returns if the series is still going on, would be right into his ribs. if i'm the mets' ss, i'm drooling at the possibility of ultey being on first base with a double play grounder to the right side. i'd take the throw and, just like utley did, lets just say where i'm aiming my throw might be in the general direction of first base, but that won't be my target. hell yes it was dirty. the shame is that, if his suspension is upheld, that we won't be able to see how the mets would have treated utley in this series moving forward.

and yeah, i was a 2nd baseman from little league thru hs.

[snap infraction]

Oct 12, 2015 11:24:16 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

the bitter nyc media comment not withstanding, that was not a slide into 2nd base to break up a double play. utley was already on top of the bag before starting to go into a slide (i use that term loosely). his body was upright, on top of his knees, as he went 3-4 feet right of the bag into tejada's body. if i was a mets pitcher, every first pitch to utley, once he returns if the series is still going on, would be right into his ribs. if i'm the mets' ss, i'm drooling at the possibility of ultey being on first base with a double play grounder to the right side. i'd take the throw and, just like utley did, lets just say where i'm aiming my throw might be in the general direction of first base, but that won't be my target. hell yes it was dirty. the shame is that, if his suspension is upheld, that we won't be able to see how the mets would have treated utley in this series moving forward.

and yeah, i was a 2nd baseman from little league thru hs.

when utley was a phillie, he was hit with a pitch more than any player in baseball.  he's not afraid of getting drilled.  it's be really stupid to throw a pitch at him though.  he's not as good as he used to be and baserunners are vital in a short playoffs series.  but what do i know?  

vine.co/v/e0E2hxUejUO  was daniel murphy suspended for this slide?  

[oujour76]

Oct 12, 2015 11:24:16 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

the bitter nyc media comment not withstanding, that was not a slide into 2nd base to break up a double play. utley was already on top of the bag before starting to go into a slide (i use that term loosely). his body was upright, on top of his knees, as he went 3-4 feet right of the bag into tejada's body. if i was a mets pitcher, every first pitch to utley, once he returns if the series is still going on, would be right into his ribs. if i'm the mets' ss, i'm drooling at the possibility of ultey being on first base with a double play grounder to the right side. i'd take the throw and, just like utley did, lets just say where i'm aiming my throw might be in the general direction of first base, but that won't be my target. hell yes it was dirty. the shame is that, if his suspension is upheld, that we won't be able to see how the mets would have treated utley in this series moving forward.

and yeah, i was a 2nd baseman from little league thru hs.

I've seen it happen...the release point is accidentally just a little lower than normal, and the ball (unfortunately) hits the base runner right between the eyes.

[snap infraction]

Oct 12, 2015 13:51:49 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Oct 12, 2015 11:24:16 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

the bitter nyc media comment not withstanding, that was not a slide into 2nd base to break up a double play. utley was already on top of the bag before starting to go into a slide (i use that term loosely). his body was upright, on top of his knees, as he went 3-4 feet right of the bag into tejada's body. if i was a mets pitcher, every first pitch to utley, once he returns if the series is still going on, would be right into his ribs. if i'm the mets' ss, i'm drooling at the possibility of ultey being on first base with a double play grounder to the right side. i'd take the throw and, just like utley did, lets just say where i'm aiming my throw might be in the general direction of first base, but that won't be my target. hell yes it was dirty. the shame is that, if his suspension is upheld, that we won't be able to see how the mets would have treated utley in this series moving forward.

and yeah, i was a 2nd baseman from little league thru hs.

I've seen it happen...the release point is accidentally just a little lower than normal, and the ball (unfortunately) hits the base runner right between the eyes.

yea.  even great pitchers like matt harvey make mistakes.  throwing a hard ball 100 mph into another person as retribution is far worse than sliding into the 2nd baseman with the intent to break up a possible double play.  

[canefan]

Yeah, you take out the SS or 2B you have to at least try to make it look like you are going to the bag. What I don't understand is, on review, he is called safe? He still hasn't tagged the bag. If I was the MLB discipline czar, he would not play again until Tejada has returned and shown he is able to play. And if I were a Mets pitcher I think he'd probably be wearing several dots over the course of the next year, such as every PA that putting him on first doesn't have the potential to hurt me.

[beuycek]

I am a Mets fan so I am not answering this question.

[canefan]

Oct 12, 2015 18:25:26 GMT -5 beuycek said:

I am a Mets fan so I am not answering this question.

I'm a Royals fan and this rule use to be called the McRae rule, for long time KC DH Hall McRae. I remember when he annihilatedWillie Randolph of the Yankees.It really was a different, more physical game back then and players didn't socialize as much. Many literally hated the other teams like the fans did.

[canefan]

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

[mscott59]

Oct 14, 2015 5:45:10 GMT -5 canefan said:

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

morning pepsi thru the nose on that one, mr miyagi. lol

[oujour76]

Oct 14, 2015 5:45:10 GMT -5 canefan said:

Oct 12, 2015 10:41:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

since everyone else in the universe is talking about it, might as well open it up here for debate...

before i begin, i should admit that i have had a man crush and chase utley since he was brought up by the phillies in 2003.  he's awesome.  he's currently just a shell of his former self, but he's still pretty awesome.  

i've seen the play he made into 2nd base a billion times.  yes, it was dirty but his intent was to prevent a double play and not break his leg.  and it was within the rules of the game.   if this particular play didn't infuriate the new york media, if it didn't break the guys leg, no one would be talking about it.  he was only suspended b/c the new york media is ruthless and unrelenting.  

Sweep the leg...funny. The actor from Karate Kid is named Marty Kove...very nice guy. Long story, but somewhere I've got a video of him with my family from a few years back at a film festival in Lone Pine, CA.

[Walter]

As apparently the lone Dodger fan here, I looked at the play as just big boy baseball. Utley's job is to bust up the double play in a way that isn't illegal, or more precisely, isn't RULED illegal. That is what he did. That someone got hurt is unfortunate, but had nobody gotten hurt, this would be a non-issue, and had Utley been a Met and the rolls reversed, the Met media would have been all over him for NOT taking out the Dodger SS.

All these comments here about who should do what in retaliation is precisely what happens in baseball every day. This is major league baseball. No participation trophies.

[oujour76]

Oct 14, 2015 13:20:27 GMT -5 Walter said:

As apparently the lone Dodger fan here, I looked at the play as just big boy baseball. Utley's job is to bust up the double play in a way that isn't illegal, or more precisely, isn't RULED illegal. That is what he did. That someone got hurt is unfortunate, but had nobody gotten hurt, this would be a non-issue, and had Utley been a Met and the rolls reversed, the Met media would have been all over him for NOT taking out the Dodger SS.

All these comments here about who should do what in retaliation is precisely what happens in baseball every day. This is major league baseball. No participation trophies.

FTR, you aren't the only Dodger fan here. Been following them since 1963. My favorite player growing up was "the Jewish kid" as Casey Stengel used to refer to Sandy Koufax.