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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 11:18:23 GMT -5
and if Ohio doesn't get off their ass, and quit playing to the unions, and Pa playing to them also, those jobs will most likely avoid them too. They'll fill WVA, Ky, Indiana, Michigan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 12:10:09 GMT -5
and if Ohio doesn't get off their ass, and quit playing to the unions, and Pa playing to them also, those jobs will most likely avoid them too. They'll fill WVA, Ky, Indiana, Michigan. If you would've watched the video. They interview a head of a union who voted for Trump. He admitted they wanted Bernie but also admitted probably 50% of his union ended up voting for Trump. My area in ohio, controlled by unions, also went for Trump |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 12:48:17 GMT -5
and if Ohio doesn't get off their ass, and quit playing to the unions, and Pa playing to them also, those jobs will most likely avoid them too. They'll fill WVA, Ky, Indiana, Michigan. If you would've watched the video. They interview a head of a union who voted for Trump. He admitted they wanted Bernie but also admitted probably 50% of his union ended up voting for Trump. My area in ohio, controlled by unions, also went for Trump And that has what to do with Ohio and Pa getting off their asses and allowing RTW laws? the rest of the surrounding states have gone to that, and factories are going there. The unions are encouraging that. When the unions can show workers that they get more $$ value out of heir dues, than actual dollars spent on dues, more people will join. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 13:39:59 GMT -5
If you would've watched the video. They interview a head of a union who voted for Trump. He admitted they wanted Bernie but also admitted probably 50% of his union ended up voting for Trump. My area in ohio, controlled by unions, also went for Trump And that has what to do with Ohio and Pa getting off their asses and allowing RTW laws? the rest of the surrounding states have gone to that, and factories are going there. The unions are encouraging that. When the unions can show workers that they get more $$ value out of heir dues, than actual dollars spent on dues, more people will join. Those laws are evil. That's why. Those laws give 100% of the power to the corporation, CEOs, and bosses. The employee gets 0% the company can now f-word over their workers all they want and tell them to f-word off if the worker says anything about it. I haven't seen one union endorse a RTW law. |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 13:54:04 GMT -5
And that has what to do with Ohio and Pa getting off their asses and allowing RTW laws? the rest of the surrounding states have gone to that, and factories are going there. The unions are encouraging that. When the unions can show workers that they get more $$ value out of heir dues, than actual dollars spent on dues, more people will join. Those laws are evil. That's why. Those laws give 100% of the power to the corporation, CEOs, and bosses. The employee gets 0% the company can now f-word over their workers all they want and tell them to f-word off if the worker says anything about it. I haven't seen one union endorse a RTW law. doesn't answer why union participation is up in the surrounding states with the RTW law, and down in Ohio and PA. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 14:15:05 GMT -5
And that has what to do with Ohio and Pa getting off their asses and allowing RTW laws? the rest of the surrounding states have gone to that, and factories are going there. The unions are encouraging that. When the unions can show workers that they get more $$ value out of heir dues, than actual dollars spent on dues, more people will join. Those laws are evil. That's why. Those laws give 100% of the power to the corporation, CEOs, and bosses. The employee gets 0% the company can now f-word over their workers all they want and tell them to f-word off if the worker says anything about it. I haven't seen one union endorse a RTW law.
Forcing someone to join a union to get a job is slavery. You sure like slavery, don't you?
Unions force businesses to pay good money to fuckups. As long as they are union members, they don't have to do shit.
Reminds me of the old story:
One night as the family sat down to supper, Little Johnny said "Hey Mom, pass me a f-in' roll." His mom stared at him in disbelief. So he told his Dad "Come on man, quit f-ing off and send me a roll." Dad got a bit perturbed and asked Johnny where he got that kind of language.
"I've been down the road watching those union workers put up a building and that's how THEY talk."
"Well young man," says Dad, "that is NOT the way we talk around here. Now you march out into the yard and bring me a big switch."
"f-word that," said Johnny, "that's the goddamn electrician's job."
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 14:24:18 GMT -5
Those laws are evil. That's why. Those laws give 100% of the power to the corporation, CEOs, and bosses. The employee gets 0% the company can now f-word over their workers all they want and tell them to f-word off if the worker says anything about it. I haven't seen one union endorse a RTW law.
Forcing someone to join a union to get a job is slavery. You sure like slavery, don't you?
Unions force businesses to pay good money to fuckups. As long as they are union members, they don't have to do shit.
[/font][/b][/font][/quote] meanwhile, those who started working for Honda of America (in ohio) back in 82 are retiring from there with a pension that would embarrass any detroit auto worker. Not to mention the high wages they earned while working. never heard once of a situation where the "boss" came walking down the assembly line and firing somebody for no good reason. |
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Post by Walter on Jan 16, 2017 14:51:11 GMT -5
Why in hell would a union endorse a law that says people are not REQUIRED to join a union? RTW gets people out from under the bootheels of crooked union bosses.
Forcing someone to join a union to get a job is slavery. You sure like slavery, don't you?
Unions force businesses to pay good money to fuckups. As long as they are union members, they don't have to do shit.
[/font][/b][/font][/quote] meanwhile, those who started working for Honda of America (in ohio) back in 82 are retiring from there with a pension that would embarrass any detroit auto worker. Not to mention the high wages they earned while working. never heard once of a situation where the "boss" came walking down the assembly line and firing somebody for no good reason. [/quote] ....and then there's this... www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2013/09/10/honda-cuts-pensions-reduces-benefits.html...apparently, it ain't all been fartin' through silk for those workers... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 15:46:06 GMT -5
Those laws are evil. That's why. Those laws give 100% of the power to the corporation, CEOs, and bosses. The employee gets 0% the company can now f-word over their workers all they want and tell them to f-word off if the worker says anything about it. I haven't seen one union endorse a RTW law. doesn't answer why union participation is up in the surrounding states with the RTW law, and down in Ohio and PA. Because Ohio and PA are smart |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 17:07:18 GMT -5
you should have read the words in the article.......those that are now retiring, who worked 25 years, on the line, will knock down $34,176.00 a year, for the rest of their lives .....however, in what you think was a "gotcha" moment, you missed where i stated they started in 1982, worked 35 years and are now retiring. Guess what they knock down. This article applies only to new hires, and those who have only been there a short time. they'll have their choice of 401K or pension. |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 17:08:14 GMT -5
doesn't answer why union participation is up in the surrounding states with the RTW law, and down in Ohio and PA. Because Ohio and PA are smart the unions are losing membership in Ohio and Pa because Ohio and Pa are smart? Do tell. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 18:19:37 GMT -5
Because Ohio and PA are smart the unions are losing membership in Ohio and Pa because Ohio and Pa are smart? Do tell. Because of Republicans. They hate unions. They want corporate America to f-word over workers so they have reduced unions and lie to people convincing them that unions are bad and it's unions fault when it's it's not. That's why they are losing membership. Plus most factories don't even allow unions anymore. They know they'd have to actually pay their workers more than $1 an hour and offer decent benefits |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 16, 2017 18:38:00 GMT -5
the unions are losing membership in Ohio and Pa because Ohio and Pa are smart? Do tell. Because of Republicans. They hate unions. They want corporate America to f-word over workers so they have reduced unions and lie to people convincing them that unions are bad and it's unions fault when it's it's not. That's why they are losing membership. Plus most factories don't even allow unions anymore. They know they'd have to actually pay their workers more than $1 an hour and offer decent benefits LOL too much......Ohio an PA aren't RTW states.....nothing prevents unions from forming except the workers at companies in those states.......got any idea how many times the workers at Honda told the UAW to go f-word themselves? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 19:57:30 GMT -5
meanwhile, those who started working for Honda of America (in ohio) back in 82 are retiring from there with a pension that would embarrass any detroit auto worker. Not to mention the high wages they earned while working. never heard once of a situation where the "boss" came walking down the assembly line and firing somebody for no good reason. ....and then there's this... www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2013/09/10/honda-cuts-pensions-reduces-benefits.html...apparently, it ain't all been fartin' through silk for those workers... .............or for anyone else in the American workforce. The Obama economy and ridiculous ObamaDeathCare costs are taking their toll on everyone. Next time, READ what you post.
"At the same time, private-sector employers have been phasing out pension plans. In its message to employees, Honda notes that 13 percent of Fortune 100 companies had defined-benefit pensions as of 2011, down from 89 percent in 1985.
In the past few years, the greatest threat to pensions has been low interest rates, which have forced companies to pump additional money into retirement systems to guarantee the benefits, said Steve Blakely, managing editor at the Employee Benefit Research Institute, a nonpartisan research group in Washington, D.C."
Those poor Honda employees ........ only making $50 an hour!!!
"He estimates that Honda pays its employees an average of $50 to $52 per hour in salary and benefits, a level that he says is more than Chrysler and less than Ford, GM and Toyota".
You need to stop letting CWG lead you over a cliff, Walt.
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