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Post by AlaCowboy on Apr 7, 2017 17:38:16 GMT -5
Walter,
Thus far, you've got zilch-- despite my ongoing efforts in recent years to share the scientific and historical facts about 9/11 with you and others.
SO, let me make a heuristic suggestion for you and Harry.
Instead of beginning with the assumption that the bogus 9/11 Commission (PNAC) narrative is the truth, try to begin with the hypothetical assumption that 9/11 was a false flag psy op organized by the U.S. Deep State (and the Mossad) as a pretext for launching their "Project for a New American Century."
PNAC, itself, had written in September of 2000 that they would need a catalyzing "Pearl Harbor" type event to implement their military program in the Middle East, right?
Are you with me?
NOW... let us assume, based on the evidence, that the PNAC masterminds in the Bush-Cheney Pentagon, CIA, State Department, etc., began to develop detailed ops for 9/11 in late 2000-- after Bush v. Gore sent Dubya to the White House.
Raytheon had developed the cruise missile technology (see Dov Zakheim) to remotely pilot Boeing jetliners.
Komatsu and affiliates (see Ehud Barak) had developed nano-thermite technology for the demolition of steel skyscrapers.
The new PNAC "Pearl Harbor" would entail a shocking, spectacularly staged attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, that would be blamed on a group of "radical" Islamic patsies-- run by (?) Saudi (or possibly Israeli) intelligence.
These patsies would be accused of hijacking Boeing jetliners that could be remotely piloted (with the new Raytheon technology) to crash into homing devices in the WTC-- specifically, into L. Paul Bremer's Marsh & McLennan office suite.
But, to make things even more shocking, the WTC towers would be completely demolished with high tech nano-thermite explosives-- remotely detonated an hour or so after the shocking plane crashes into the building.
The Pentagon, itself, could be attacked with a plane or a cruise missile, to add to the national shock & awe.
Cheney and Rumsfeld would pre-arrange for a general stand down of normal NORAD and USAF defenses against air attacks and hijacked airplanes.
L. Paul Bremer, Jerome Hauer, Ehud Barak, and Kissinger would go on the international airwaves IMMEDIATELY after the shocking plane crashes to blame the "terrorist" attacks on a group of Islamic "radicals."
Government black ops experts would plant incriminating evidence in the trunk of a rental car at Logan airport-- specifically naming 19 Muslim "terrorists," with full details. They would also plant miraculously preserved Muslim passports at the WTC, Pentagon, and Shanksville crash sites.
Any potentially serious whistleblowers could "perish" in plane crashes.
A trustworthy public figure-- like Fox News Clinton-basher Barbara Olson-- could be set up as a well-known victim of the terrorist hijackings.
Psy ops specialists could also record simulated phone calls, which would provide the public with a dramatic narrative of the hijackings, etc.
All physical evidence of the demolitions at the WTC and Pentagon would be tightly restricted and demolished by PNAC team members in NYC and D.C. (including New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.)
THEN, look for data that supports (or contradicts) this hypothesis...
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Post by Walter on Apr 7, 2017 20:00:11 GMT -5
Walter,
Thus far, you've got zilch-- despite my ongoing efforts in recent years to share the scientific and historical facts about 9/11 with you and others.
SO, let me make a heuristic suggestion for you and Harry.
Instead of beginning with the assumption that the bogus 9/11 Commission (PNAC) narrative is the truth, try to begin with the hypothetical assumption that 9/11 was a false flag psy op organized by the U.S. Deep State (and the Mossad) as a pretext for launching their "Project for a New American Century."
PNAC, itself, had written in September of 2000 that they would need a catalyzing "Pearl Harbor" type event to implement their military program in the Middle East, right?
Are you with me?
NOW... let us assume, based on the evidence, that the PNAC masterminds in the Bush-Cheney Pentagon, CIA, State Department, etc., began to develop detailed ops for 9/11 in late 2000-- after Bush v. Gore sent Dubya to the White House.
Raytheon had developed the cruise missile technology (see Dov Zakheim) to remotely pilot Boeing jetliners.
Komatsu and affiliates (see Ehud Barak) had developed nano-thermite technology for the demolition of steel skyscrapers.
The new PNAC "Pearl Harbor" would entail a shocking, spectacularly staged attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, that would be blamed on a group of "radical" Islamic patsies-- run by (?) Saudi (or possibly Israeli) intelligence.
These patsies would be accused of hijacking Boeing jetliners that could be remotely piloted (with the new Raytheon technology) to crash into homing devices in the WTC-- specifically, into L. Paul Bremer's Marsh & McLennan office suite.
But, to make things even more shocking, the WTC towers would be completely demolished with high tech nano-thermite explosives-- remotely detonated an hour or so after the shocking plane crashes into the building.
The Pentagon, itself, could be attacked with a plane or a cruise missile, to add to the national shock & awe.
Cheney and Rumsfeld would pre-arrange for a general stand down of normal NORAD and USAF defenses against air attacks and hijacked airplanes.
L. Paul Bremer, Jerome Hauer, Ehud Barak, and Kissinger would go on the international airwaves IMMEDIATELY after the shocking plane crashes to blame the "terrorist" attacks on a group of Islamic "radicals."
Government black ops experts would plant incriminating evidence in the trunk of a rental car at Logan airport-- specifically naming 19 Muslim "terrorists," with full details. They would also plant miraculously preserved Muslim passports at the WTC, Pentagon, and Shanksville crash sites.
Any potentially serious whistleblowers could "perish" in plane crashes.
A trustworthy public figure-- like Fox News Clinton-basher Barbara Olson-- could be set up as a well-known victim of the terrorist hijackings.
Psy ops specialists could also record simulated phone calls, which would provide the public with a dramatic narrative of the hijackings, etc.
All physical evidence of the demolitions at the WTC and Pentagon would be tightly restricted and demolished by PNAC team members in NYC and D.C. (including New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.)
THEN, look for data that supports (or contradicts) this hypothesis...
You claimed that the passengers were fake and were made up identities by the CIA. Now you're saying Barbara Olson wasn't made up. Does that mean the other passengers weren't made up either? You said it was a missile that hit the Pentagon. Now you're saying it could have been a plane or a missile. So was it a plane or a missile? Was Barbara Olson on that plane or not? Now you're saying that some people, "whistleblowers" could have died in aircraft crashes? Crashes? What crashes? To which crashes are you referring? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 20:20:55 GMT -5
You claimed that the passengers were fake and were made up identities by the CIA. Now you're saying Barbara Olson wasn't made up. Does that mean the other passengers weren't made up either? You said it was a missile that hit the Pentagon. Now you're saying it could have been a plane or a missile. So was it a plane or a missile? Was Barbara Olson on that plane or not? Now you're saying that some people, "whistleblowers" could have died in aircraft crashes? Crashes? What crashes? To which crashes are you referring?
You would make a terrible scientist.
I have posited a hypothetical framework for understanding what happened on 9/11.
I still haven't found, much less placed, every piece of this complicated puzzle.
In the case of these alleged "passengers," some (or, indeed all) may have been real people, who are dead or alive. (If dead, they may not, necessarily, have died in plane crashes.) In Barbara Olson's case, I do believe that she is alive, and was an active participant (along with her husband, Ted) in the PNAC black op.
In the case of the slender white object that hit the Pentagon on 9/11, it looks like some sort of "missile," in the broadest sense of the word.
What I do believe is that the U.S. government conspired to shut down normal USAF and NORAD procedures for intercepting hijacked airplanes on 9/11.
I also believe that the three WTC skyscrapers (including WTC7) were professionally demolished by steel-melting explosives.
There is no evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. Even the FBI and Dick Cheney have admitted that much.
The 19 alleged hijackers are names and photos that were planted in a rental car at Logan Airport. There is no evidence (on videos or flight manifests) that any of them ever boarded a plane on 9/11. |
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Post by Walter on Apr 7, 2017 23:00:52 GMT -5
Oh... so none of this is anything other than your own speculation.
Well, you are certainly entitled to that, but then I am entitled to think that your assertions are right up there with anyone else's. And frankly, IMO, there are homeless mental patients who have equally competing ideas about 9/11.
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Post by oujour76 on Apr 7, 2017 23:07:36 GMT -5
You claimed that the passengers were fake and were made up identities by the CIA. Now you're saying Barbara Olson wasn't made up. Does that mean the other passengers weren't made up either? You said it was a missile that hit the Pentagon. Now you're saying it could have been a plane or a missile. So was it a plane or a missile? Was Barbara Olson on that plane or not? Now you're saying that some people, "whistleblowers" could have died in aircraft crashes? Crashes? What crashes? To which crashes are you referring?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 23:09:45 GMT -5
Oh... so none of this is anything other than your own speculation. Well, you are certainly entitled to that, but then I am entitled to think that your assertions are right up there with anyone else's. And frankly, IMO, there are homeless mental patients who have equally competing ideas about 9/11. It's not speculation, but a fact based hypothesis. Unlike the 9/11 Commission Report, however, my hypothesis is not contradicted by the facts. For example, it is a known scientific fact that jet fuel could not have caused the rapid, symmetrical demolition of those three WTC skyscrapers on 9/11. |
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Post by Lee The Locksmith on Apr 8, 2017 7:43:08 GMT -5
Oh... so none of this is anything other than your own speculation. Well, you are certainly entitled to that, but then I am entitled to think that your assertions are right up there with anyone else's. And frankly, IMO, there are homeless mental patients who have equally competing ideas about 9/11. It's not speculation, but a fact based hypothesis. Unlike the 9/11 Commission Report, however, my hypothesis is not contradicted by the facts. For example, it is a known scientific fact that jet fuel could not have caused the rapid, symmetrical demolition of those three WTC skyscrapers on 9/11.  ....
Yer party has lost the White House, Congress and now the supreme court.
There is no hope for liberal policies and the DNC is fractured so badly that their current hopes are hinged on Pelosi, Schumer and Rachel Maddow.
The psychosis you are experiencing is normal for such a disappointing reality you must now face and eye want you to know that all of here understand that if the best treatment you can respond to is to discuss jet engine sizes, then WE SUPPORT YOU WILLIE !!
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Post by Walter on Apr 8, 2017 8:41:01 GMT -5
Oh... so none of this is anything other than your own speculation. Well, you are certainly entitled to that, but then I am entitled to think that your assertions are right up there with anyone else's. And frankly, IMO, there are homeless mental patients who have equally competing ideas about 9/11. It's not speculation, but a fact based hypothesis. Unlike the 9/11 Commission Report, however, my hypothesis is not contradicted by the facts. For example, it is a known scientific fact that jet fuel could not have caused the rapid, symmetrical demolition of those three WTC skyscrapers on 9/11. ...LOL...which is why, as I sat on my couch with a cup of coffee in my hand watching 9/11 unfold that fateful morning, I turned to my wife and said, "They've got about 2 or 3 hours to put out those fires or those buildings are coming down." Anyone with any experience in the business knew that. What is truly heroic is that those brave souls of FDNY knew it too. |
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Post by oujour76 on Apr 8, 2017 9:52:43 GMT -5
...LOL...which is why, as I sat on my couch with a cup of coffee in my hand watching 9/11 unfold that fateful morning, I turned to my wife and said, "They've got about 2 or 3 hours to put out those fires or those buildings are coming down." Anyone with any experience in the business knew that. What is truly heroic is that those brave souls of FDNY knew it too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 11:48:29 GMT -5
...LOL...which is why, as I sat on my couch with a cup of coffee in my hand watching 9/11 unfold that fateful morning, I turned to my wife and said, "They've got about 2 or 3 hours to put out those fires or those buildings are coming down." Anyone with any experience in the business knew that. What is truly heroic is that those brave souls of FDNY knew it too.
As Richard Nixon once said, "Most people will believe anything they hear on television."
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Post by Lee The Locksmith on Apr 8, 2017 11:55:41 GMT -5
Some people simply don't understand basic chemistry and physics.
Yer party has lost the White House, Congress and now the supreme court.
There is no hope for liberal policies and the DNC is fractured so badly that their current hopes are hinged on Pelosi, Schumer and Rachel Maddow.
The psychosis you are experiencing is normal for such a disappointing reality you must now face and eye want you to know that all of here understand that if the best treatment you can respond to is to discuss jet engine sizes, then WE SUPPORT YOU WILLIE !!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 13:49:38 GMT -5
Lee,
I'm in perfectly good health.
Some day, you guys will finally realize that I was right, all along, about 9/11-- The Great American Psy Opera...
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Post by Walter on Apr 8, 2017 14:26:02 GMT -5
Apparently those brave souls missed the hologram memo.
You got that right. |
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Post by Lee The Locksmith on Apr 8, 2017 15:35:52 GMT -5
Lee, I'm in perfectly good health. Some day, you guys will finally realize that I was right, all along, about 9/11-- The Great American Psy Opera... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:46:16 GMT -5
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