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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:43:55 GMT -5
I have longer-term perspective on FSU gained from playing them every year as I think the nolies started their rise to national prominence in the 60s under Bill Peterson. Peterson had some very good teams. The 64 FSU squad was the first to beat UF in Gainesville and went on to beat OU in the Orange Bowl. FSU had a WR that season that went on to NFL fame and has a trophy named after him, Fred Biletnikoff. 
LOL...that's how it used to be done. You would see the picture in the paper the next morning of guys signing contracts.
Thanks for the Gator Bowl correction. FSU beat UF for the first time, but it was in Tallahassee. I think the largely unknown story is FSU was good under Bill Peterson. FSU didn't just start playing football when Bobby Bowden arrived to save the day from Darrell Mudra. I still remember Biletnikoff playing as an Oakland Raider with stick'em on his hands. Can you imagine the WRs trying to get away with that today? On second thought, maybe they can in the pass happy NFL of today. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:45:39 GMT -5
Your real question is why not Florida as Texas A&M didn't become SEC until 2012 and Georgia doesn't have a large tOSU alumni base. You guys would have to drive all the way to Athens from central and south Florida. As I said earlier, if Urban Meyer wanted a home and home with UF, I believe it can be arranged. Meyer still has connections in Gainesville that can make this happen. It won't be in back to back seasons like with OU, but several slots could be found in the early 2020s. actually ohio state has a very strong alumni club assn in atlanta 90 minutes away from uga, as well as a young buckeyes assn there specifically for recent grads that began 5 or 6 years ago. wrong again.. lol Okay, who has more tOSU alumni, Florida or Georgia? EDIT: While at it, who has more tOSU alumni: Florida or Washington? Florida or California? Florida or Arizona? Florida or Texas? Florida or Virginia? Florida or Massachusetts? We already know Florida is second only to California and Texas in recruiting. |
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 10:45:47 GMT -5
Tell ya what. Until Florida crosses the mason Dixon line. I feel they are the biggest pile of shit program in college football. The Florida gators are nothing but yeast infected pussys too afraid to leave the south. They are worthless piles of dog shit. Nothing more I'm okay with that as UF unlike tOSU has never pretended to be more than a regional program. tOSU amended: "We'll go anywhere and play anybody so long as we feel we have a good chance to win and it isn't top tier SEC or FSU." yeah, because god knows, playing on the road from seattle to miami, from the la coliseum to baton rouge, from norman to austin, is the essence of a regional cfb program. my god your hate affects your eyesight somethin fierce. lmao. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 10:59:08 GMT -5
No, not now that UF has decided to no longer schedule Miami as a home and home. UF vs. tOSU home and home can be arranged. It would help if Gene Smith, with Urban Meyer's assistance, would identify UF as a team they would like to play. If there is any SEC team that makes sense to play, it is UF. Given the way Meyer left Gainsville I would be shocked to see an UF/Osu handh There were never any hard feelings between UF and Meyer about Meyer leaving. The fan base? Yes. Urban and Shelley Meyer still have friends in Gainesville and connections with the UF. It could be an easily done deal by plugging tOSU in where Miami would have gone in the past home and home games. These season opening games will rotate to other programs so UF and tOSU will both be available in the early to mid 2020s. tOSU vs. UF meets Jarmonds requirements of recruiting and alumni base. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 11:11:47 GMT -5
I'm okay with that as UF unlike tOSU has never pretended to be more than a regional program. tOSU amended: "We'll go anywhere and play anybody so long as we feel we have a good chance to win and it isn't top tier SEC or FSU." yeah, because god knows, playing on the road from seattle to miami, from the la coliseum to baton rouge, from norman to austin, is the essence of a regional cfb program. my god your hate affects your eyesight somethin fierce. lmao. The issue isn't national or regional for tOSU. The issue is tOSU is ducking/snubbing/avoiding top tier SEC and FSU, the southeast. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 11:25:27 GMT -5
“I think — naively — I was probably thinking because we’re Ohio State, it would just be very easy and everybody would want to play us and it would be easy to work things through,” Jarmond said. “It’s not like, ‘Wow, we’d love to come to Columbus in front of 107,000.’ I thought it was going to be that way — it’s not really that way.” And some opponents might not want to spend money traveling to a city where they could potentially lose. The lack of desire to travel to Columbus makes things harder for Jarmond in scheduling opponents, along with the other factors that make it a tough job. Read more: aolcfboutcasts.proboards.com/thread/29089/why-ohio-dosnt-schedule-games?page=3#ixzz4g7Oj3VY3Gee, didn't have trouble scheduling Texas 05 (national title year) to come to columbus. Didn't have trouble scheduling USC to come to Columbus, Washington, or Wash St, or Miami, or Oklahoma, or Texas Tech, or a host of others. the only conference who won't schedule a game in Ohio Stadium is the sEC. with the exception of LSU that is..........they got HAD balls. FIFY...HAD |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 11:33:01 GMT -5
you don't know shit on what uf would/wouldn't do. for the one millionith time, uf has been in a unique situation w/fsu and miami growing into football prominence in the last 30 years. but it is mind-boggling that uf hasn't travelled out of florida to play on a ooc road stadium in over a quarter century. that is unique for a successful d-1 program, it's unique amongst the powers of the sec. you keep yippin like a chihuahua about osu not playing the sec or fsu like osu fans don't know it or care about it. you can take your sanctimony and stick it up your sphincter. osu hasn't played the sec since lsu in '87/'88, but that's exactly one more sec power that osu's played on the road than uf re big 10. you harp about fsu not getting osu at home like its a fault. well you take that sanctimonious crap and stick it in the same place. fsu agreed to travel to columbus twice because 1. ohio stadium was nearly twice the size of doak campbell at the time, and it made financial sense, and 2. because bobby bowden was trying to put his program on the map and going on the road, at the time, to play the big boys, was the way to do it. it worked. the noles got not just one but two wins, and that philosophy helped fsu get on the top shelf of cfb in the 90's beyond. so, in the last 35 years, tosu has played.... lsu home/home (won multiple national titles) fsu twice in columbus (won multiple national titles) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) at colorado (shared a national title) at washington (shared a national title) alabama-neutral site (i think they've won a couple) wvu home/home (played for a national title) oregon (played for a national title) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) syracuse home/home (they were 10-2 the year osu beat them in ny state in '92, the year after uf played there) washington 2 home/1 away (shared a national title) notre dame home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl neutral (won multiple national titles) texas home/home (won a national title and played for another) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl home/home (won multiple national titles) virgina tech home/home (played for a national title) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) that list doesn't include series w/ucla, arizona, nc state, nor does it include the upcoming ooc foes, but the above shows the pedigree of programs across the board. over a dozen different schools who've either won titles in the last generation or played for one. the alma mater has its shared of faults, but ducking historically strong ooc competition, and playing them in their house, is not one of them. you are, on this subject, full of shit saying otherwise. 1991 You should update your talking points. FSU and Miami came into national prominence 40 years ago, not 30. tOSU doesn't travel anywhere to play anybody as you bucknuts have claimed. Even if tOSU did, you'd need to schedule an FSU caliber program every year to keep up with UF which they do not do. Until tOSU schedules and plays top tier SEC and FSU, I'll not be impressed with the other hand culled programs tOSU identifies that they will beat along with the occasional OUs that they might beat. There's a Shania Twain song lyric that is appropriate, "that doesn't impress me much." The people that are full of shit here are you bucknuts. ALL-TIME WINS 1.Michigan 935
2.Texas 890
3.Nebraska 889
4.Ohio State 886
5.Alabama 878 6.Notre Dame 875
7.Oklahoma 872
8.Penn State 867
9.Tennessee 829 10.USC 823Tried with the Vols, but there were complications. We'll (both programs) will make that happen sooner or later. Funny, I don't see either of your "top tier" programs mentioned. As far as you being impressed (tho jealous is probably a more appropriate word), let us know when you get a vote on the committee. Until then, we don't GAS. Come back when your program matters. |
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Post by oujour76 on May 4, 2017 11:41:16 GMT -5
I forgot about the Georgia series and yes, I definitely remember the UT series as the home game was the last time I was in The Shoe (insert sad face here) but they aren't the SEC. As I said yesterday, I wish we could play them every year but my point was, either this guy is full of shit or the author's suggestion that there are other reasons why some of those games haven't been played holds a lot of weight. As for Florida, I would pay top dollar to sit my happy ass in the swamp to see the Buckeyes play the Gators. Heck, I want to go to a game there anyway but if it were to be Ohio State, that would be something for me.
That said, there could be an easy get around on the neutral thing...do it as a home and home at 2 neutral sites. With Georgia, Alabama go "neutral" in Atlanta with tOSU and then return to Cleveland or Cincinnati. LSU played Wisconsin in Green Bay, do a return in New Orleans. With Tennessee, Nashville. I don't think all SEC schools would do it, but a few would. Not ideal and home fans would bitch a little, but it beats scheduling Bumfuck State as a rent-a-win.
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 11:57:31 GMT -5
yeah, because god knows, playing on the road from seattle to miami, from the la coliseum to baton rouge, from norman to austin, is the essence of a regional cfb program. my god your hate affects your eyesight somethin fierce. lmao. The issue isn't national or regional for tOSU. The issue is tOSU is ducking/snubbing/avoiding top tier SEC and FSU, the southeast. if tosu wasn't playing the oklahomas, usc's, et al, the sec thing would be a bigger issue. osu is not ducking elite top level ooc competition though. and again, your claim that it's only osu doing the ducking (remember, takes two to tango)... is a lot more you and a lot less verified truth. |
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Post by lz2112 on May 4, 2017 12:04:17 GMT -5
The 4th horseman has arrived. I've now gone from being called full of shit to pathetic asshole and I didn't even start this thread. (chuckle) Mike the Younger, I've made myself clear. Don't expect me to change my perception of tOSU until they schedule and play top tier SEC and FSU. Given the scheduling preferences in Columbus, that has as much of a chance of happening as a snowballs chance in hell. Tell ya what. Until Florida crosses the mason Dixon line. I feel they are the biggest pile of shit program in college football. The Florida gators are nothing but yeast infected pussys too afraid to leave the south. They are worthless piles of dog shit. Nothing more Why in hell should I have any respect whatsoever for OSU when I read garbage like that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 12:11:09 GMT -5
Tell ya what. Until Florida crosses the mason Dixon line. I feel they are the biggest pile of shit program in college football. The Florida gators are nothing but yeast infected pussys too afraid to leave the south. They are worthless piles of dog shit. Nothing more Why in hell should I have any respect whatsoever for OSU when I read garbage like that. Well ET just spent 3 pages saying Ohio St is a regional program who plays nobodies and won't schedule any team who has any chance at beating OSU. So when you tell ET to stop his B.S. I'll stop mine |
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 12:40:28 GMT -5
I forgot about the Georgia series and yes, I definitely remember the UT series as the home game was the last time I was in The Shoe (insert sad face here) but they aren't the SEC. As I said yesterday, I wish we could play them every year but my point was, either this guy is full of shit or the author's suggestion that there are other reasons why some of those games haven't been played holds a lot of weight. As for Florida, I would pay top dollar to sit my happy ass in the swamp to see the Buckeyes play the Gators. Heck, I want to go to a game there anyway but if it were to be Ohio State, that would be something for me.
That said, there could be an easy get around on the neutral thing...do it as a home and home at 2 neutral sites. With Georgia, Alabama go "neutral" in Atlanta with tOSU and then return to Cleveland or Cincinnati. LSU played Wisconsin in Green Bay, do a return in New Orleans. With Tennessee, Nashville. I don't think all SEC schools would do it, but a few would. Not ideal and home fans would bitch a little, but it beats scheduling Bumfuck State as a rent-a-win.
certainly agree with your last phrase there, though i still hate any trend to take cfb games off cfb campuses/stadiums. and the whole lsu/uf/presbyterian fiasco should be proof enough how scheduling in the short term can be full of potholes. osu already has agreements for 2020-21 (oregon), 2022-23 (nd and texas, both years), 2024-25 (washington) and 2026-27 (boston college). you'd think in those last 2 years the buckeye brass would be willing to add a name ooc opponent go along w/bc. except for 2023, ou has similar commits running thru 2030 (nebraska, lsu, tennessee, michigan, nebraska again) seems to be different in the sec. alabama has no commitments beyond 2019 except for georgia state in '20. uf has miami in orlando and fsu in '19, but no future official ooc commits past 2020. uga has ga tech already on their schedules thru 2030, but past '20 there is only a home/home w/ucla in '25-'26. lsu has scheduled out a littler further; ucla in '21-'24, arizona st in '26-'29, sooners in '27-'28. similar for tennessee, who has oklahoma in '24, nebraska in '26-'27. different schools of thought out there, for sure. |
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Post by bamorin on May 4, 2017 13:03:40 GMT -5
The issue isn't national or regional for tOSU. The issue is tOSU is ducking/snubbing/avoiding top tier SEC and FSU, the southeast. if tosu wasn't playing the oklahomas, usc's, et al, the sec thing would be a bigger issue. osu is not ducking elite top level ooc competition though. and again, your claim that it's only osu doing the ducking (remember, takes two to tango)... is a lot more you and a lot less verified truth. Missouri had no problem scheduling a H/H with OSU when they were a member of the B12 '96-'97. it wasn't until they joined the sEC they had a problem with scheduling OSU. funny, huh |
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Post by oujour76 on May 4, 2017 13:27:14 GMT -5
I remember that OU/FSU Gator Bowl game...OU had 3-4 players declared ineligible for signing pro contracts before the game. Biletnikoff and the FSU guys apparently did not sign before the game...instead, they negotiated their contracts while walking off the field and then signed under the goalposts. Miraculously, the team had enough time to type up the agreement in that same time span.
LOL...that's how it used to be done. You would see the picture in the paper the next morning of guys signing contracts.
Thanks for the Gator Bowl correction. FSU beat UF for the first time, but it was in Tallahassee. I think the largely unknown story is FSU was good under Bill Peterson. FSU didn't just start playing football when Bobby Bowden arrived to save the day from Darrell Mudra. I still remember Biletnikoff playing as an Oakland Raider with stick'em on his hands. Can you imagine the WRs trying to get away with that today? On second thought, maybe they can in the pass happy NFL of today.
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Post by cbisbig on May 4, 2017 13:49:48 GMT -5
The 4th horseman has arrived. I've now gone from being called full of shit to pathetic asshole and I didn't even start this thread. (chuckle) Mike the Younger, I've made myself clear. Don't expect me to change my perception of tOSU until they schedule and play top tier SEC and FSU. Given the scheduling preferences in Columbus, that has as much of a chance of happening as a snowballs chance in hell. Tell ya what. Until Florida crosses the mason Dixon line. I feel they are the biggest pile of shit program in college football. The Florida gators are nothing but yeast infected pussys too afraid to leave the south. They are worthless piles of dog shit. Nothing more |
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