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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 17:58:41 GMT -5
New York Fire Commissioners Demand New 9/11 Probe, Citing "Overwhelming Evidence of Pre-Planted Explosives"
July 31, 2019
New York area fire commissioners have called for a new investigation into 9/11, claiming that "overwhelming evidence" of "pre-planted explosives...caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings." The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District outside of Queens, New York made history by becoming the first legislative body in the country to support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The resolution, read aloud and passed during a July 24, 2019 meeting and calling for the investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and was unanimously approved by the five commissioners. According to Activist Post, Commissioner Christopher Gioia said: “We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force. We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last."
The impact of 9/11 on the community extends well beyond the victims and their grieving families. On September 12, 2001, the Franklin Square Fire Department was called in to assist with the massive rescue and recovery effort that was just getting underway. Countless members of the department, including Gioia and Commissioner Philip Malloy (then rank-and-file firefighters), spent weeks on the pile searching in vain for civilians and fellow responders who might still be alive. Today, Malloy is one of thousands suffering chronic health effects. The department also lost one of its own in Thomas J. Hetzel, affectionately referred to as “Tommy” by the commissioners. Hetzel was a full-time member of the New York Fire Department in addition to serving as a volunteer firefighter in Franklin Square. A touching memorial to Hetzel was on display during the meeting, and Hetzel’s widow, parents, and sister were all in attendance. "The Hetzel and Evans families were very appreciative of the proceedings," Gioia continued. "They know it’s an uphill struggle. But at least they have hope, which is something they haven’t had in a long time." Conversing with guests after the meeting, Commissioner Dennis Lyons said: "We have a memorial — a piece of steel from the World Trade Center with 28 holes where the nuts and bolts used to go. Every year on the 11th, we put a rose in each hole for the 24 Nassau County firefighters and four Franklin Square residents who died on 9/11." The department's full resolution reads:
Whereas, the attacks of September 11, 2001, are inextricably and forever tied to the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department;
Whereas, on September 11, 2001, while operating at the World Trade Center in New York City, firefighter Thomas J. Hetzel, badge #290 of Hook and Ladder Company #1, Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department of New York, was killed in performance of his duties, along with 2,976 other emergency responders and civilians;
Whereas, members of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire Department were called upon to assist in the subsequent rescue and recovery operations and cleanup of the World Trade Center site, afflicting many of them with life-threatening illnesses as a result of breathing the deadly toxins present at the site;
Whereas, the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District recognizes the significant and compelling nature of the petition before the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York reporting un-prosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and calling upon the United States Attorney to present that petition to a Special Grand Jury pursuant to the United States Constitution and 18 U.S.C. SS 3332(A);
Whereas, the overwhelming evidence presented in said petition demonstrates beyond any doubt that pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries — not just airplanes and the ensuing fires — caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings, killing the vast majority of the victims who perished that day;
Whereas, the victims of 9/11, their families, the people of New York City, and our nation deserve that every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, be investigated to the fullest and that every person who was responsible face justice;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Fire Commissioners of the Franklin Square and Munson Fire District fully supports a comprehensive federal grand jury investigation and prosecution of every crime related to the attacks of September 11, 2001, as well as any and all efforts by other government entities to investigate and uncover the full truth surrounding the events of that horrible day. |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Aug 9, 2019 21:01:19 GMT -5
The Stupid Idiot From Denver thinks we will believe that a bunch of volunteer firefighters that serve a 3 square mile town know what really happened on 9/11. His misleading title wants us to believe that knowledgeable experts said this.
Franklin County and Munson Fire DepartmentDept Type: Volunteer Organization Type: Local Number of Stations: 1 Career Firefighters: 0 Volunteer Firefighters: 110 New York area fire commissioners have called for a new investigation into 9/11, claiming that "overwhelming evidence" of "pre-planted explosives...caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings." The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District outside of Queens, New York made history by becoming the first legislative body in the country to support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Read more: aolcfboutcasts.proboards.com/thread/42002/york-commissioners-demand-probe-explosives#ixzz5w9uUgaf1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 10:39:34 GMT -5
Dung-head Ra mey attacks another messenger.
Will Dung-head ever, finally, get the message?
Dan Rather Comments on the Explosive Demolition of WTC7 on 9/11
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Post by Walter on Aug 10, 2019 13:40:41 GMT -5
Dung-head Ra mey attacks another messenger. Will Dung-head ever, finally, get the message? Dan Rather Comments on the Explosive Demolition of WTC7 on 9/11
Can you explain how this volunteer FD came to have any first hand knowledge of what they claim? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:48:46 GMT -5
Dung-head Ra mey attacks another messenger. Will Dung-head ever, finally, get the message? Dan Rather Comments on the Explosive Demolition of WTC7 on 9/11
Can you explain how this volunteer FD came to have any first hand knowledge of what they claim? A number of fire department officials in the U.S. have requested a proper forensic investigation of the WTC 9/11 explosive demolitions for many years. In fact, the fraudulent NIST computer simulation "report" about 9/11 was only initiated by the Bush-Cheney administration IN RESPONSE TO complaints by fire department officials that a true forensic examination of the WTC building demolitions on 9/11 was never done. That is still true today. The NIST never conducted a physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- including the thousands of tons of explosively pulverized concrete and the liquefied steel at Ground Zero. |
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Post by Walter on Aug 10, 2019 21:55:18 GMT -5
Can you explain how this volunteer FD came to have any first hand knowledge of what they claim? A number of fire department officials in the U.S. have requested a proper forensic investigation of the WTC 9/11 explosive demolitions for many years. In fact, the fraudulent NIST computer simulation "report" about 9/11 was only initiated by the Bush-Cheney administration IN RESPONSE TO complaints by fire department officials that a true forensic examination of the WTC building demolitions on 9/11 was never done. That is still true today. The NIST never conducted a physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- including the thousands of tons of explosively pulverized concrete and the liquefied steel at Ground Zero. ...so, they know squat. Maybe they can take up a collection and hire DiEugenio to explain it to them. Money is no object, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 22:12:15 GMT -5
A number of fire department officials in the U.S. have requested a proper forensic investigation of the WTC 9/11 explosive demolitions for many years. In fact, the fraudulent NIST computer simulation "report" about 9/11 was only initiated by the Bush-Cheney administration IN RESPONSE TO complaints by fire department officials that a true forensic examination of the WTC building demolitions on 9/11 was never done. That is still true today. The NIST never conducted a physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- including the thousands of tons of explosively pulverized concrete and the liquefied steel at Ground Zero. ...so, they know squat. Maybe they can take up a collection and hire DiEugenio to explain it to them. Money is no object, right? Get a clue, Wally. It's truly incredible that you, an architect, still haven't been able to recognize -- after 18 years (!) -- that WTC7 was professionally demolished on 9/11. Dan Rather figured out that it was an explosive demolition in just 18 seconds. And, of course, it collapsed in a free fall after the owner Larry Silverstein said that he, "Told them to pull it." Details, details...  |
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Post by Walter on Aug 11, 2019 6:13:35 GMT -5
...so, they know squat. Maybe they can take up a collection and hire DiEugenio to explain it to them. Money is no object, right? Get a clue, Wally. It's truly incredible that you, an architect, still haven't been able to recognize -- after 18 years (!) -- that WTC7 was professionally demolished on 9/11. Dan Rather figured out that it was an explosive demolition in just 18 seconds. And, of course, it collapsed in a free fall after the owner Larry Silverstein said that he, "Told them to pull it." Details, details... Yeah. I read a chunk of the NIST report. You didn't. You let clickbait con artists inform you because you are ignorant about structural engineering and don't understand the reports contents. But it's me who needs to 'get a clue'. LOL. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 10:39:11 GMT -5
Get a clue, Wally. It's truly incredible that you, an architect, still haven't been able to recognize -- after 18 years (!) -- that WTC7 was professionally demolished on 9/11. Dan Rather figured out that it was an explosive demolition in just 18 seconds. And, of course, it collapsed in a free fall after the owner Larry Silverstein said that he, "Told them to pull it." Details, details... Yeah. I read a chunk of the NIST report. You didn't. You let clickbait con artists inform you because you are ignorant about structural engineering and don't understand the reports contents. But it's me who needs to 'get a clue'. LOL.
Oh, really? So you never read any of my detailed posts debunking the NIST report nonsense, before you deleted them, eh?
Did the NIST do a forensic physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- the tons of explosively pulverized concrete and molten steel?
Did they analyze any of the thermitically-cut steel girders visible at Ground Zero?
Did they publish any of the alleged "data" that they used in their computer "simulations" of the WTC demolitions?
Yes or no?
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Post by Walter on Aug 11, 2019 11:36:41 GMT -5
Yeah. I read a chunk of the NIST report. You didn't. You let clickbait con artists inform you because you are ignorant about structural engineering and don't understand the reports contents. But it's me who needs to 'get a clue'. LOL. Oh, really? So you never read any of my detailed posts debunking the NIST report nonsense, before you deleted them, eh? Did the NIST do a forensic physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- the tons of explosively pulverized concrete and molten steel? Did they analyze any of the thermitically-cut steel girders visible at Ground Zero? Did they publish any of the alleged "data" that they used in their computer "simulations" of the WTC demolitions? Yes or no?
All of your blathering nonsense above is the product of horseshit clickbaiters who prey on the ignorant to make a buck. Like I said, you have never laid eyes on the NIST report and probably wouldn't understand it if you had, so it is hard, really hard, to take you seriously. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 11:40:17 GMT -5
Oh, really? So you never read any of my detailed posts debunking the NIST report nonsense, before you deleted them, eh? Did the NIST do a forensic physical or chemical analysis of the WTC debris-- the tons of explosively pulverized concrete and molten steel? Did they analyze any of the thermitically-cut steel girders visible at Ground Zero? Did they publish any of the alleged "data" that they used in their computer "simulations" of the WTC demolitions? Yes or no?
All of your blathering nonsense above is the product of horseshit clickbaiters who prey on the ignorant to make a buck. Like I said, you have never laid eyes on the NIST report and probably wouldn't understand it if you had, so it is hard, really hard, to take you seriously. Answer the questions, Wally. You're starting to sound like Mutt and pFredd. |
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Post by Walter on Aug 11, 2019 12:53:12 GMT -5
All of your blathering nonsense above is the product of horseshit clickbaiters who prey on the ignorant to make a buck. Like I said, you have never laid eyes on the NIST report and probably wouldn't understand it if you had, so it is hard, really hard, to take you seriously. Answer the questions, Wally. You're starting to sound like Mutt and pFredd. Nope. Addressing nonsense does not improve it. For instance, if nobody analyzed beams cut by thermite, why do you think there are any? What analysis would lead NIST to conclude that beams were cut? It's like asking a doctor why he did not test for cancer on a patient who broke his arm. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:17:33 GMT -5
Answer the questions, Wally. You're starting to sound like Mutt and pFredd. Nope. Addressing nonsense does not improve it. For instance, if nobody analyzed beams cut by thermite, why do you think there are any? What analysis would lead NIST to conclude that beams were cut? It's like asking a doctor why he did not test for cancer on a patient who broke his arm. Earth to Wally... Put on your reading glasses and study some film, dude. You can see the the cut beams at Ground Zero in the famous photos and videos that were taken by FEMA. |
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Post by Walter on Aug 11, 2019 13:23:51 GMT -5
Nope. Addressing nonsense does not improve it. For instance, if nobody analyzed beams cut by thermite, why do you think there are any? What analysis would lead NIST to conclude that beams were cut? It's like asking a doctor why he did not test for cancer on a patient who broke his arm. Earth to Wally... Put on your reading glasses and study some film, dude. You can see the the cut beams at Ground Zero in the famous photos and videos that were taken by FEMA. I thought you were a hot shot at physics. Apparently not. Do you comprehend the notion of the shear force Vmax in the structural cross-section of any part of a framing system? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 15:11:54 GMT -5
Earth to Wally... Put on your reading glasses and study some film, dude. You can see the the cut beams at Ground Zero in the famous photos and videos that were taken by FEMA. I thought you were a hot shot at physics. Apparently not. Do you comprehend the notion of the shear force Vmax in the structural cross-section of any part of a framing system? Oh, now you finally want to talk about physics, eh? That's progress for you. Excellent. So, let's begin by talking about the total gravitational force (weight) exerted by the upper floors of WTC1 and WTC2 on the lower floors of those steel skyscrapers on 9/11. Since there was clearly no visible "pancaking" of upper floors onto lower floors -- no "pile driver" effect -- did the total force compressing the lower floors of the explosively pulverized buildings... A) increase B) decrease, or C) remain constant as the buildings collapsed in a near free fall? Ready, go!! |
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