Major General Explains 9/11 to Harry, Walter, and C-Biscuit

[DrSchadenfreude]

The 9/11 Phone Calls: Disturbing Irregularities Uncovered in the Calls that Flashed around the World
2013-05-16, Wall Street Journal/PRNewswire
online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130516-909978.html

           The 9/11 Consensus Panel now offers four evidence-based points about the alleged phone calls from the 9/11 flights. The famous "let's roll" drama of the passenger revolt on UA 93 was relayed by passenger Todd Beamer's 13-minute unrecorded seat-back call to GTE telephone supervisor Lisa Jefferson, who reported Beamer as strangely tranquil, declining to speak to his wife. Eerily, Beamer's line remained open for 15 minutes after the crash.

      Oddly, the Verizon wireless record shows that 19 calls were made from Beamer's cell phone long after the crash of UA 93. Initial media reports and FBI interviews detailed more than a dozen cell phone calls from the planes at high elevation.

      Yet in 2001, a telephone spokesperson stated that sustained mobile calls were not possible above 10,000 feet.

      During the 2006 Moussaoui Trial, the FBI (under oath) reduced the number of cell phone calls to two calls made from 5,000 feet, and presented evidence of only one (not two) "unconnected" call from Barbara Olson, lasting "0 seconds." In another twist, two other women reported that Caller-ID showed their husband's cell numbers on their answering machines, which while lasting several minutes, had been made from elevations of 25,000 and 35,000 feet. Although the FBI conducted a massive investigation into the calls, none of the telephone billing, nor any of the cell phone location data stored in standard phone company records has been publicly released.

[Walter]

Nov 21, 2022 16:34:02 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

More references about PNAC's patsy "hijacker" legends for the 9/11 false flag op...

The 9/11 Hijackers: Fraud in Official Video Exhibits Uncovered by Expert Panel

web.archive.org/web/20121029235804/http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-911-hijackers-fraud-in-official-video-exhibits-uncovered-by-expert-panel-2012-09-10

NEW YORK, Sept. 10, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- A Panel of 22 researchers into the history of 9/11 has uncovered evidence of fraud in the photographic images of Muslim hijackers prior to boarding the planes on 9/11.

Court exhibits state that leader Mohamed Atta took a commuter flight from Portland, Maine, to connect to AA Flight 11 out of Boston, which hit the North Tower.

The dubious images heighten the mystery of why Atta left Boston, where Flight 11 was to be hijacked, and risked the failure of his entire mission by driving to Portland September 10, staying overnight, and booking a tight connection back to Boston early September 11.

Atta's bags, central to the story, failed to make the connection and were found in Boston's Logan airport with incriminating evidence about the hijacking operation.

The Panel's in-depth review shows the Portland story to be peppered with inconsistencies and revisions, placing the entire hijack theory in question.

Similarly, at Washington's Dulles International Airport, five hijackers allegedly passed through security before flying AA Flight 77, carrying CNN correspondent Barbara Olson, into the Pentagon.

Yet no images were released from the 300+ security cameras at Dulles that morning, nor were Arabic men reported in FBI interviews of airport staff.

The 9/11 Consensus Panel's lawyers, journalists, airline pilots and six PhD's use a medical model employing three rounds of review and feedback to refine their evidence.

In its quest to provide credible resources to the media, the public, and future investigators, the Panel has produced 28 Consensus Points of "best evidence" regarding the official claims of 9/11 -- the trigger event for the Middle East wars of the last decade.

Its investigations cover:

explosives at the Twin Towers and Building WTC-7

the inadequate flying skills of the alleged Pentagon pilot

the missing debris from "Let's Roll" Flight 93

the massive annual (October) military drills coinciding on 9/11, and

the allegedly absent political and military commanders.

The Panel's educational work has been translated into French and Spanish, with Italian, German, and Dutch in preparation.

The Panel moderators recommend the PBS special, 9/11 Explosive Evidence: Experts Speak Out, in which 40 whistle-blowing experts present evidence of controlled demolition at the World trade Center.

Source: The 9/11 Consensus Panel

SOURCE The 9/11 Consensus Panel

Copyright (C) 2012 PR Newswire. All rights reserved

Three things.
First, you claimed there were no images of the hijackers entering AA77. Now you tell us images were never released. So, how do you know the hijackers aren't shown?
Second, still waiting for you to tell us about the phone call from Renee May from AA77.
Third, list the names of the 22 researchers.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Was Use of Cell Phones on 9/11 Flights Possible?
2004-12-15, WantToKnow.info/Washington Post/SF Chronicle/Associated Press
www.WantToKnow.info/911cellphonecalls

”Once you get to a certain height, you are no longer in the range of the cellular network, because cell phone towers aren't built to project their signals that high.”

Washington Post, 12/9/04

“Today's vote by the FCC is intended to address whether technology has improved to the extent that cell phone calls now are possible above 10,000 feet -- they weren't in the past.”

San Francisco Chronicle, 12/15/04

"With television cameramen hovering, Qualcomm chief executive Irwin Jacobs sat in the front row of coach and made one of the first legal cell phone calls from a commercial jetliner. Jacobs pronounced the [brand new] technology behind the airborne phone call a success, although adding that it will be improved over the next couple years. Connections from the plane were generally good, although some calls were dropped."

USA Today/Associated Press, 7/16/04

Note: To find articles showing multiple cell phone use on Sept. 11, 2001, type "9/11" and "cell phone calls" into your favorite search engine, or click here for a Washington Post report on an alleged 30-minute uninterrupted cell phone call from Flight 93. Click here for a CNN report on another call from that flight. Tests have shown it is not possible to have an extended cell phone conversation above 10,000 feet.

[Walter]

Nov 21, 2022 16:47:40 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Was Use of Cell Phones on 9/11 Flights Possible?
2004-12-15, WantToKnow.info/Washington Post/SF Chronicle/Associated Press
www.WantToKnow.info/911cellphonecalls

”Once you get to a certain height, you are no longer in the range of the cellular network, because cell phone towers aren't built to project their signals that high.”

Washington Post, 12/9/04

“Today's vote by the FCC is intended to address whether technology has improved to the extent that cell phone calls now are possible above 10,000 feet -- they weren't in the past.”

San Francisco Chronicle, 12/15/04

"With television cameramen hovering, Qualcomm chief executive Irwin Jacobs sat in the front row of coach and made one of the first legal cell phone calls from a commercial jetliner. Jacobs pronounced the [brand new] technology behind the airborne phone call a success, although adding that it will be improved over the next couple years. Connections from the plane were generally good, although some calls were dropped."

USA Today/Associated Press, 7/16/04

Note: To find articles showing multiple cell phone use on Sept. 11, 2001, type "9/11" and "cell phone calls" into your favorite search engine, or click here for a Washington Post report on an alleged 30-minute uninterrupted cell phone call from Flight 93. Click here for a CNN report on another call from that flight. Tests have shown it is not possible to have an extended cell phone conversation above 10,000 feet.

Here's a little help for you as you try to figure out how Renee May made a phone call.
Records from American Airlines in flight phone system

[DrSchadenfreude]

On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked'
2001-09-12, Washington Post
www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14365-2001Sep11

About an hour after takeoff from Dulles International Airport yesterday morning, Flight 77, a Boeing 757 headed for Los Angeles with 64 people aboard, became a massive missile aimed at the White House. The target would change suddenly, but the symbolism was equally devastating. The diving plane carved out a massive chunk of the Pentagon. The unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens. Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious.

Note: Yet Hani Hanjour, the alleged terrorist pilot of Flight 77, was a terrible pilot. According to a New York Times article, "Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the school, said Mr. Hanjour showed up in Washington asking to rent a single-engine plane. But he was told that he had to prove his skills before being allowed to do so. Mr. Bernard said Mr. Hanjour made three flights with two different instructors but was unable to prove that he had the necessary skills." The article states this was less than a month before 9/11. How then was he able to execute the "fighter jet maneuver" above on a Boeing 757? Click here for more.

Hani Hanjour-- the alleged Boeing 757 hijacker who couldn't even fly a Cessna

[Walter]

Nov 21, 2022 16:54:29 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked'
2001-09-12, Washington Post
www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14365-2001Sep11

About an hour after takeoff from Dulles International Airport yesterday morning, Flight 77, a Boeing 757 headed for Los Angeles with 64 people aboard, became a massive missile aimed at the White House. The target would change suddenly, but the symbolism was equally devastating. The diving plane carved out a massive chunk of the Pentagon. The unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens. Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious.

Note: Yet Hani Hanjour, the alleged terrorist pilot of Flight 77, was a terrible pilot. According to a New York Times article, "Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the school, said Mr. Hanjour showed up in Washington asking to rent a single-engine plane. But he was told that he had to prove his skills before being allowed to do so. Mr. Bernard said Mr. Hanjour made three flights with two different instructors but was unable to prove that he had the necessary skills." The article states this was less than a month before 9/11. How then was he able to execute the "fighter jet maneuver" above on a Boeing 757? Click here for more.

Hani Hanjour-- the alleged Boeing 757 hijacker who couldn't even fly a Cessna

I don't know anything about flying a plane, but I'm going to guess that flying the plane isn't the problem.
Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part, and he didn't have to be good at either of those things.

[DrSchadenfreude]

      There is overwhelming evidence that the FBI suppressed field reports about the alleged Saudi hijackers in the U.S. prior to 9/11-- consistent with U.S. and Saudi government complicity in staging a false flag op, with CIA-affiliated Saudi patsies to be used as "terrorists."

Witnesses in Defense Dept. Report Suggest Cover-Up of 9/11 Findings
2010-10-04, Fox News
www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/04/exclusive-witnesses-defense-depart...

A document obtained and witnesses interviewed by Fox News raise new questions over whether there was an effort by the Defense Department to cover up a pre-9/11 military intelligence program known as "Able Danger." At least five witnesses questioned by the Defense Department's Inspector General told Fox News that their statements were distorted by investigators in the final IG's report -- or it left out key information, backing up assertions that lead hijacker Mohammed Atta was identified a year before 9/11. Lt. Col Tony Shaffer, an operative involved with Able Danger [and author of Operation Dark Heart, a recent book which discussed the Able Danger operation, and all copies of which were destroyed by the Pentagon] said, "My last interview was very, very hostile." When asked why the IG's report was so aggressive in its denials of his claims and those of other witnesses -- that the data mining project had identified Atta as a threat to the U.S. before 9/11 -- Shaffer said [the] Defense Department was worried about taking some of the blame for 9/11. Specifically, the Defense Intelligence Agency ... wanted the removal of references to a meeting between Shaffer and the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, removed. Shaffer alleges that in that meeting, which took place in Afghanistan, the commission was told about Able Danger and the identification of Atta before the attacks. Shaffer, who was undercover at the time, said there was "stunned silence" at the meeting. No mention of this was made in the final 9/11 Commission report.

Note: Able Danger was the program which identified Mohamed Atta and three other alleged 9/11 hijackers as a potential terror threat before 9/11. To read major media reports on the intense controversy around this program (which is likely why Shaffer's book is being burned by the Pentagon), click here. For a highly revealing Fox News interview with Col. Shaffer on these major deceptions, click here.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Another reference to the dubious phone calls and Hanjour/hijack narrative.

9/11 Revealed: Challenging the Facts behind the War on Terror
2005-09-04, The Sunday Times (Book review in England's leading newspaper)
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2102-1757744,00.html

     By allowing the attacks to happen -- or in the case of the most extreme theories, by organising them under a “false flag” -- the military-industrial complex in America, headed by Dick Cheney and his neocon supporters in the Project for a New American Century, guaranteed that America would stay at war and that profits would stay high.

    The authors of Revealed, both journalists, have subjected the official version of what happened to intense scrutiny and found huge gaps. Recalling that most of what we know about what happened on the planes comes from alleged calls made by passengers on mobile phones, they point out that most experts say that, for technical reasons, this contact would have been impossible to make.

     They highlight the absence of Mayday distress signals, the failure to find the black-box flight recorders for the WTC aircraft...the failure to carry out a full engineering investigation into why the towers collapsed so fast and the failure to scramble military aircraft to intercept the hijacked aircraft.

      Even more intriguing is the role of Hani Hanjour, the alleged pilot of Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon. Anyone who examines the route taken by Hanjour will see that it required a complex maneuver by an experienced pilot. Yet in 2001, when Hanjour tried to fly down the Hudson air corridor in a light aircraft, his trainer was so unnerved that he denied him a second run. You don’t have to be a conspiracy nut to see that the official account published by the 9/11 Commission is full of gaps.

Note: England's popular Daily Mail also had a long, detailed article on 9/11 Revealed, which you can read here. The US State Department decided that this book was dangerous enough to post a webpage dedicated to disproving its theories: read here. The authors' rebuttal to the State Department's claims is available here.

[Walter]

Meanwhile...about that phone call from an AA77 flight attendant to her mother...got anything?

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 21, 2022 17:44:52 GMT -5 Walter said:

Meanwhile...about that phone call from an AA77 flight attendant to her mother...got anything?

I don't have any info on the flight attendant, but the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls about Muslims with box cutters never happened.

And Hani Hanjour didn't fly that 757 into the first floor of the Pentagon.  No way.

He couldn't even handle a Cessna.

We're looking at a CIA black op narrative here.

Next up:  The obvious explosive demo!itions of the WTC, Mossad foreknowledge, and CIA short selling.

[AlaCowboy]

Nov 21, 2022 19:44:09 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 21, 2022 17:44:52 GMT -5 Walter said:

Meanwhile...about that phone call from an AA77 flight attendant to her mother...got anything?

I don't have any info on the flight attendant, but the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls about Muslims with box cutters never happened.

And Hani Hanjour didn't fly that 757 into the first floor of the Pentagon.  No way.

He couldn't even handle a Cessna.

We're looking at a CIA black op narrative here.

Next up:  The obvious explosive demo!itions of the WTC, Mossad foreknowledge, and CIA short selling.

How about: "Next up. Live interviews with the people on the flight manifests of the three planes that were not really hijacked." Blow the conspiracy wide open. If you can't find even one of hundreds, then I believe nothing you post.

[oujour76]

Nov 21, 2022 16:58:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 21, 2022 16:54:29 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked'
2001-09-12, Washington Post
www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14365-2001Sep11

About an hour after takeoff from Dulles International Airport yesterday morning, Flight 77, a Boeing 757 headed for Los Angeles with 64 people aboard, became a massive missile aimed at the White House. The target would change suddenly, but the symbolism was equally devastating. The diving plane carved out a massive chunk of the Pentagon. The unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens. Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm, possibly one of the hijackers. Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious.

Note: Yet Hani Hanjour, the alleged terrorist pilot of Flight 77, was a terrible pilot. According to a New York Times article, "Marcel Bernard, the chief flight instructor at the school, said Mr. Hanjour showed up in Washington asking to rent a single-engine plane. But he was told that he had to prove his skills before being allowed to do so. Mr. Bernard said Mr. Hanjour made three flights with two different instructors but was unable to prove that he had the necessary skills." The article states this was less than a month before 9/11. How then was he able to execute the "fighter jet maneuver" above on a Boeing 757? Click here for more.

Hani Hanjour-- the alleged Boeing 757 hijacker who couldn't even fly a Cessna

I don't know anything about flying a plane, but I'm going to guess that flying the plane isn't the problem.
Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part, and he didn't have to be good at either of those things.

Wasn’t that difficult of a maneuver.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 21, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Nov 21, 2022 19:44:09 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

I don't have any info on the flight attendant, but the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls about Muslims with box cutters never happened.

And Hani Hanjour didn't fly that 757 into the first floor of the Pentagon.  No way.

He couldn't even handle a Cessna.

We're looking at a CIA black op narrative here.

Next up:  The obvious explosive demo!itions of the WTC, Mossad foreknowledge, and CIA short selling.

How about: "Next up. Live interviews with the people on the flight manifests of the three planes that were not really hijacked." Blow the conspiracy wide open. If you can't find even one of hundreds, then I believe nothing you post.

Total bunk. The exact opposite is the case.

The obvious explosive WTC demolitions and CIA and Mossad foreknowledge of 9/11 blow the false Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative to bits.

The collusion of the FBI, NORAD, and the U.S. military in the 9/11 false flag op is also germane. The evidence is vast.

You guys simply haven't figured that out yet. You have all been duped by the mainstream (and on-line) media psy-op.

The other pieces of the multi-faceted PNAC/CIA/Mossad/Saudi 9/11 op are merely parts of the jigsaw puzzle-- in which some pieces are, obviously, still missing.

The big picture is that PNAC (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Condoleezza Rice, et.al.) set up a shocking "New Pearl Harbor" attack on the U.S. that was meant to be blamed on Muslim terrorists-- as a pretext to implement the Wolfowitz/Feith military agenda in the Middle East, the phony "War on Terror."

Cui bono? Who benefited from 9/11? Bush, Cheney, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Halliburton, and Big Oil.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 21, 2022 21:12:35 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 21, 2022 16:58:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

I don't know anything about flying a plane, but I'm going to guess that flying the plane isn't the problem.
Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part, and he didn't have to be good at either of those things.

Wasn’t that difficult of a maneuver.

Total bunk from Harry Chicken, as always.  The exact opposite of the truth.

Harry simply can't stop lying.

Study the analysis of the nearly impossible putative descent of AA77 into the first floor of the Pentagon by professional pilots, including the late Phillip Marshall.

The consensus among professional pilots (not involved with the CIA or Bush/Cheney military 9/11 psy op) is that even a highly skilled, experienced pilot would have had great difficulty executing that complex maneuver.

[AlaCowboy]

Nov 21, 2022 21:13:11 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 21, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

How about: "Next up. Live interviews with the people on the flight manifests of the three planes that were not really hijacked." Blow the conspiracy wide open. If you can't find even one of hundreds, then I believe nothing you post.

Total bunk. The exact opposite is the case.

The obvious explosive WTC demolitions and CIA and Mossad foreknowledge of 9/11 blow the false Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative to bits.

The collusion of the FBI, NORAD, and the U.S. military in the 9/11 false flag op is also germane. The evidence is vast.

You guys simply haven't figured that out yet. You have all been duped by the mainstream (and on-line) media psy-op.

The other pieces of the multi-faceted PNAC/CIA/Mossad/Saudi 9/11 op are merely parts of the jigsaw puzzle-- in which some pieces are, obviously, still missing.

The big picture is that PNAC (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Condoleezza Rice, et.al.) set up a shocking "New Pearl Harbor" attack on the U.S. that was meant to be blamed on Muslim terrorists-- as a pretext to implement the Wolfowitz/Feith military agenda in the Middle East, the phony "War on Terror."

Cui bono? Who benefited from 9/11? Bush, Cheney, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Halliburton, and Big Oil.

It would have taken weeks to rig the WTC towers with explosives. There were thousands of people in and out of those buildings around the clock. Why did no one report before or after the fact of suspicious activity? Every time you change course you still run in a ditch.