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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 21, 2022 22:25:34 GMT -5
Total bunk. The exact opposite is the case. The obvious explosive WTC demolitions and CIA and Mossad foreknowledge of 9/11 blow the false Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative to bits. The collusion of the FBI, NORAD, and the U.S. military in the 9/11 false flag op is also germane. The evidence is vast. You guys simply haven't figured that out yet. You have all been duped by the mainstream (and on-line) media psy-op. The other pieces of the multi-faceted PNAC/CIA/Mossad/Saudi 9/11 op are merely parts of the jigsaw puzzle-- in which some pieces are, obviously, still missing. The big picture is that PNAC (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Condoleezza Rice, et.al.) set up a shocking "New Pearl Harbor" attack on the U.S. that was meant to be blamed on Muslim terrorists-- as a pretext to implement the Wolfowitz/Feith military agenda in the Middle East, the phony "War on Terror." Cui bono? Who benefited from 9/11? Bush, Cheney, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Halliburton, and Big Oil. Where did you get the notion that there were no demolition crews working in those WTC buildings prior to 9/11? What's your source? The buildings were expertly demolished by explosives. That is an empirically and scientifically obvious fact. So, it's not a question of if, but how, the demolition crews got the job done in advance. Whistle blower Susan Lindauer claims that the demolition crews were working the graveyard shifts in the weeks prior to 9/11. There are reports of crews "working on the elevators" and closing floors in the Twin Towers prior to 9/11. Unfortunately, 3,000 tenants in the Twin Towers were killed on 9/11, so much of the witness testimony was destroyed by the demolitions. Many survivors (including NYFD fire fighters) heard and reported the serial explosions in the Twin Towers on 9/11, but their witness testimony was assiduously suppressed by Phillip Zelikow's 9/11 Commission white wash/cover up "report" -- not unlike what happened with the Warren Commission Report. |
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Post by Walter on Nov 22, 2022 5:26:18 GMT -5
Meanwhile...about that phone call from an AA77 flight attendant to her mother...got anything? I don't have any info on the flight attendant, but the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls about Muslims with box cutters never happened. And Hani Hanjour didn't fly that 757 into the first floor of the Pentagon. No way. He couldn't even handle a Cessna. We're looking at a CIA black op narrative here. Next up: The obvious explosive demo!itions of the WTC, Mossad foreknowledge, and CIA short selling. You don't have anything to say about Renee May and her documented phone call to her mother? Well, when you do, we can reconvene. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 22, 2022 9:52:45 GMT -5
Wasn’t that difficult of a maneuver. Total bunk from Harry Chicken, as always. The exact opposite of the truth. Harry simply can't stop lying. Study the analysis of the nearly impossible putative descent of AA77 into the first floor of the Pentagon by professional pilots, including the late Phillip Marshall. The consensus among professional pilots (not involved with the CIA or Bush/Cheney military 9/11 psy op) is that even a highly skilled, experienced pilot would have had great difficulty executing that complex maneuver. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 22, 2022 9:58:29 GMT -5
Meanwhile...about that phone call from an AA77 flight attendant to her mother...got anything? I don't have any info on the flight attendant, but the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls about Muslims with box cutters never happened. And Hani Hanjour didn't fly that 757 into the first floor of the Pentagon. No way. He couldn't even handle a Cessna. We're looking at a CIA black op narrative here. Next up: The obvious explosive demo!itions of the WTC, Mossad foreknowledge, and CIA short selling. |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 12:21:32 GMT -5
Day #17 for Harry O'Chicken
Harry still refuses to explain the visible serial explosions that pulverized the Twin Towers on 9/11
Harry keeps changing the subject and rallying the uneducated Wally World trolls to support the debunked Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative of 9/11. He puts his head down the rabbit hole, not daring to talk about the damning evidence of demolitions and Mossad foreknowledge. Harry and Walter simply can't explain the visible and audible serial explosions that pulverized the WTC Twin Towers on 9/11. |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 12:35:28 GMT -5
The 9/11 Phone Calls: Disturbing Irregularities Uncovered in the Calls that Flashed around the World
May 20, 2013
NEW YORK – America first learned of the 9/11 hijackings from Solicitor-General Ted Olson, who reported two phone calls from his wife, well-known CNN commentator Barbara Olson. From American Airlines Flight 77, Barbara Olson fleshed out the drama of diminutive Muslim hijackers using knives and box-cutters to herd dozens of passengers to the rear of the plane. These and other reported calls have now been examined by the 9/11 Consensus Panel of scientists, pilots, professors, attorneys, and journalists. The Panel began its research in 2011 with the Twin Towers and the sudden, stunning collapse of adjacent Building WTC7, a massive 47-storey steel-framed skyscraper. The official conclusion that all 82 support columns failed simultaneously from fire alone has for years raised serious questions about the official account. The famous “let’s roll” drama of the passenger revolt on UA 93 was relayed by passenger Todd Beamer’s 13-minute unrecorded seat-back call to GTE telephone supervisor Lisa Jefferson, who reported Beamer as strangely tranquil, declining to speak to his wife. Eerily, Beamer’s line remained open for 15 minutes after the crash. Oddly, the Verizon wireless record shows that 19 calls were made from Beamer’s cell phone long after the crash of UA 93.
Initial media reports and FBI interviews detailed more than a dozen cell phone calls from the planes at high elevation.
Yet in 2001, a telephone spokesperson stated that sustained mobile calls were not possible above 10,000 feet:
When it comes to land and air, the capabilities of a cell phone don’t change. But what makes it possible to use a handheld while in a plane 10,000 feet in the air, and why should it work there when it doesn’t work in your own neighborhood? It all depends on where the phone is, says Marco Thompson, president of the San Diego Telecom Council. “Cell phones are not designed to work on a plane. Although they do.” The rough rule is that when the plane is slow and over a city, the phone will work up to 10,000 feet or so. “Also, it depends on how fast the plane is moving and its proximity to antennas,” Thompson says. “At 30,000 feet, it may work momentarily while near a cell site, but it’s chancy and the connection won’t last.” Also, the hand-off process from cell site to cell site is more difficult. It is created for a maximum speed of 60 mph to 100 mph. “They are not built for 400 mph airplanes.” But, Thompson warns, to find out how well your phone works on a plane, you risk going to jail. During the 2006 Moussaoui Trial, the FBI (under oath) reduced the number of cell phone calls to two calls made from 5,000 feet, and presented evidence of only one (not two) “unconnected” call from Barbara Olson, lasting “0 seconds.”
In another twist, two other women reported that Caller-ID showed their husband’s cell numbers on their answering machines, which while lasting several minutes, had been made from elevations of 25,000 and 35,000 feet . Finally, although the FBI conducted a massive investigation into the calls, none of the telephone billing, nor any of the cell phone location data stored in standard phone company records has been publicly released. The 9/11 Consensus Panel has developed 32 Points of evidence. Source: The 9/11 Consensus Panel @911consensus Contact List: www.consensus911.org/media-contacts/ |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 12:45:44 GMT -5
Saudi officials were 'supporting' 9/11 hijackers, commission member says  2016-05-12, The Guardian (One of the UK's leading newspapers) www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/12/911-commission-saudi-arabia-hi...
Saudi government employees were part of a support network for the 9/11 hijackers. The Obama administration should move quickly to declassify a long-secret congressional report on Saudi ties to the 2001 terrorist attack, [said former 9/11 commission member John Lehman]. The comments ... signal the first serious public split among the 10 commissioners since they issued a 2004 final report that was largely read as an exoneration of Saudi Arabia, which was home to 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11. The former chairman and vice-chairman of the commission [have] urged the Obama administration to be cautious about releasing the full congressional report on the Saudis and 9/11 – “the 28 pages”, as they are widely known in Washington. In fact, there were repeated showdowns, especially over the Saudis, between the staff and the commission’s hard-charging executive director ... Philip Zelikow. Zelikow fired a staffer, who had repeatedly protested over limitations on the Saudi investigation, after she obtained a copy of the 28 pages outside of official channels. Other staffers described an angry scene late one night, near the end of the investigation, when two investigators who focused on the Saudi allegations were forced to rush back to the commission’s offices after midnight after learning to their astonishment that some of the most compelling evidence about a Saudi tie to 9/11 was being edited out of the report. Note: Zelikow's close ties to the Bush White House are among many problems with the official 9/11 Commission Report. Read more on the Saudi role in Sept. 11 and the hidden 9/11 report pages. For more along these lines, see concise summaries of deeply revealing 9/11 news articles from reliable major media sources. Then explore the excellent, reliable resources provided in our 9/11 Information Center.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 12:47:33 GMT -5
Top secret "28 pages" may hold clues about Saudi support for 9/11 hijackers 2016-04-08, CBS News www.cbsnews.com/news/top-secret-28-pages-may-hold-clues-about-saudi-su...Current and former members of Congress, U.S. officials, 9/11 Commissioners and the families of the attack's victims want 28 top-secret pages of a congressional report released. Bob Graham, the former Florida governor, Democratic U.S. Senator and onetime chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, says the key section of a top secret report ... should be declassified to shed light on possible Saudi support for some of the 9/11 hijackers. Graham was co-chair of Congress' bipartisan "Joint Inquiry" into intelligence failures surrounding the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, that issued the report in 2003. Graham and his Joint Inquiry co-chair in the House, former Representative Porter Goss (R-FL) - who went on to be director of the CIA - say the 28 pages were excised from their report by the Bush Administration in the interest of national security. Graham wouldn't discuss the classified contents, but says the 28 pages outline a network of people he believes supported hijackers in the US, [and] believes the hijackers were "substantially" supported by Saudi Arabia. Asked if the support was from government, rich people or charities, the former senator replies, "all of the above." Graham and others think the reason for classifying the pages was to protect the U.S. relationship with ally Saudi Arabia. In addition to Graham and Goss ... Tim Roemer, former Democratic U.S. Representative from Indiana who was the only person to serve on both Congress' Joint Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission [has] read the redacted pages. Roemer says it's time to let everyone know what's in the top secret documents. Note: Watch this revealing video segment on the CBS website. Read more on the Saudi role in Sept. 11 and the hidden 9/11 report pages. For more along these lines, see concise summaries of deeply revealing 9/11 news articles from reliable major media sources. Then explore the excellent, reliable resources provided in our 9/11 Information Center. |
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Post by Walter on Nov 22, 2022 12:52:48 GMT -5
Focus.
Renee May. Phone call. Go!
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 13:35:59 GMT -5
Day #18 for Walter and Harry dodging the key WTC evidence that debunks the false Bush/Cheney narrative of 9/11.
Walter is a true Los Angeles dodger.
Yet, not a single person in Wally World has confronted Harry and Walter about their cowardice.
Graver was the last honest Wally World member, when it came to analyzing the damning 9/11 facts.
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Post by Walter on Nov 22, 2022 13:39:13 GMT -5
Day #18 for Walter and Harry dodging the key WTC evidence that debunks the false Bush/Cheney narrative of 9/11. Walter is a true Los Angeles dodger. Yet, not a single person in Wally World has confronted Harry and Walter about their cowardice. Graver was the last honest Wally World member, when it came to analyzing the damning 9/11 facts. We aren't finished with the Pentagon incident yet. As soon as we finish that, we can move on to other matters. Now....Renee May; her call from the plane to her mother...GO! |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 13:55:48 GMT -5
Day #18 for Walter and Harry dodging the key WTC evidence that debunks the false Bush/Cheney narrative of 9/11. Walter is a true Los Angeles dodger. Yet, not a single person in Wally World has confronted Harry and Walter about their cowardice. Graver was the last honest Wally World member, when it came to analyzing the damning 9/11 facts. We aren't finished with the Pentagon incident yet. As soon as we finish that, we can move on to other matters. Now....Renee May; her call from the plane to her mother...GO! Who is "we"-- you and the other poorly educated cowards here who refuse to discuss the explosive WTC demolitions and Mossad celebrations on 9/11? You guys are a joke. You were duped by a CIA/Mossad/Saudi " New Pearl Harbor" psy op And you keep desperately dodging the core evidence debunking the false Bush/Cheney narrative of the 9/11 op. . |
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Post by Walter on Nov 22, 2022 14:11:58 GMT -5
We aren't finished with the Pentagon incident yet. As soon as we finish that, we can move on to other matters. Now....Renee May; her call from the plane to her mother...GO! Who is "we"-- you and the other poorly educated cowards here who refuse to discuss the explosive WTC demolitions and Mossad celebrations on 9/11? You guys are a joke. You were duped by a CIA/Mossad/Saudi " New Pearl Harbor" psy op And you keep desperately dodging the core evidence debunking the false Bush/Cheney narrative of the 9/11 op. . Not dodging anything. Just trying to keep you focused on your own rants. You have a pathological inability to take any discussion to its conclusion whenever your arguments begin to fail. I'm simply trying to keep you on track. Now...Renee May.... Shall we continue? |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 15:30:06 GMT -5
Saudi officials were 'supporting' 9/11 hijackers, commission member says 2016-05-12, The Guardian (One of the UK's leading newspapers) www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/12/911-commission-saudi-arabia-hi...
Saudi government employees were part of a support network for the 9/11 hijackers. The Obama administration should move quickly to declassify a long-secret congressional report on Saudi ties to the 2001 terrorist attack, [said former 9/11 commission member John Lehman]. The comments ... signal the first serious public split among the 10 commissioners since they issued a 2004 final report that was largely read as an exoneration of Saudi Arabia, which was home to 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11. The former chairman and vice-chairman of the commission [have] urged the Obama administration to be cautious about releasing the full congressional report on the Saudis and 9/11 – “the 28 pages”, as they are widely known in Washington. In fact, there were repeated showdowns, especially over the Saudis, between the staff and the commission’s hard-charging executive director ... Philip Zelikow. Zelikow fired a staffer, who had repeatedly protested over limitations on the Saudi investigation, after she obtained a copy of the 28 pages outside of official channels. Other staffers described an angry scene late one night, near the end of the investigation, when two investigators who focused on the Saudi allegations were forced to rush back to the commission’s offices after midnight after learning to their astonishment that some of the most compelling evidence about a Saudi tie to 9/11 was being edited out of the report. Note: Zelikow's close ties to the Bush White House are among many problems with the official 9/11 Commission Report. Read more on the Saudi role in Sept. 11 and the hidden 9/11 report pages. For more along these lines, see concise summaries of deeply revealing 9/11 news articles from reliable major media sources. Then explore the excellent, reliable resources provided in our 9/11 Information Center.
[9/11] Hijack 'suspects' alive and well2001-09-23, BBC News news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stmAnother of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the [9/11] suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well. The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt. Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September. His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world. He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities. He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring. But, he says, he left the United States in September last year [and] became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines. Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects ... says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver. Meanwhile ... a London-based Arabic daily says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi. He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania. And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive. FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt. Note: The deceptions in the 9/11 official story are clearly shown in this key story. The FBI never revised its list of alleged hijackers. These four are all listed in the official 9/11 Commission report as the hijackers. Click here and scroll down a little over half way to see their photos in the official report. For more, see this webpage. Explore also concise summaries of deeply revealing news articles with evidence of a 9/11 cover-up from reliable major media sources. Then examine an abundance of reliable information suggesting a major 9/11 cover-up.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 22, 2022 15:31:21 GMT -5
Alleged [9/11] Hijackers May Have Trained At U.S. Bases2001-09-14, Newsweek Magazine www.newsweek.com/2001/09/14/alleged-hijackers-may-have-trained-at-u-s-...
U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in [the 9/11] terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s. Three of the alleged hijackers listed their address on drivers licenses and car registrations as the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla. -- known as the "Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation," according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy source. Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source. The five men were on a list of 19 people identified as hijackers by the FBI on [September 14]. The three foreign nationals training in Pensacola appear to be Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmad Alnami, who were among the four men who allegedly commandeered United Airlines Flight 93. That flight [ended in] rural Pennsylvania. The third man who may have trained in Pensacola, Ahmed Alghamdi, allegedly helped highjack United Airlines Flight 75, which hit the south tower of the World Trade Center. Military records show that the three used as their address 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. Note: For more on this vitally important news, see this Washington Post news article and this Los Angeles Times news article. Several of the alleged hijackers also contacted US media shortly after 9/11 to report that they were alive and were not on the hijacked planes, as reported in this BBC article and this Times of London article. Yet the 9/11 Commission Report lists these men as the official hijackers. Explore many other major media news articles suggesting that rogue elements of government were involved in 9/11. See also our excellent 9/11 Information Center.
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