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Mar 23, 2024 17:05:31 GMT -5
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Post by CWGBuckeyes on Mar 23, 2024 17:05:31 GMT -5
I saw someone ask this and it stuck with me
Why does God forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief?
Why is that sin the one sin that can not be forgiven
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Post by Walter on Mar 23, 2024 17:56:54 GMT -5
Some people's God thinks that way. Mine doesn't.
...and for the record, neither does Joe Pesci last time I talked to him.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Mar 23, 2024 18:32:12 GMT -5
I saw someone ask this and it stuck with me Why does God forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief? Why is that sin the one sin that can not be forgiven Mike, Disbelief is not a sin in traditional Christian theology. The Apostle Thomas, himself, was in disbelief about Christ's Resurrection. The Church calls it, "the Blessed Doubt." The only unforgivable sin in Orthodox Christianity is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (of God.) This is rare. It is committed only by people who deny and blaspheme God AFTER the grace and truth of His Holy Spirit has been genuinely revealed to them. In the Gospels, Christ gave the example of this type of blasphemy in relation to some Pharisees who had witnessed his miracles, then accused him of being Satanic.
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Mar 24, 2024 8:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by Walter on Mar 24, 2024 8:19:14 GMT -5
I saw someone ask this and it stuck with me Why does God forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief? Why is that sin the one sin that can not be forgiven Mike, Disbelief is not a sin in traditional Christian theology. The Apostle Thomas, himself, was in disbelief about Christ's Resurrection. The Church calls it, "the Blessed Doubt." The only unforgivable sin in Orthodox Christianity is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (of God.) This is rare. It is committed only by people who deny and blaspheme God AFTER the grace and truth of His Holy Spirit has been genuinely revealed to them. In the Gospels, Christ gave the example of this type of blasphemy in relation to some Pharisees who had witnessed his miracles, then accused him of being Satanic. A guy walking around performing miracles all day would be mighty impressive.
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Post by cbisbig on Mar 24, 2024 8:49:19 GMT -5
Some people's God thinks that way. Mine doesn't. Of course, beelzebub wants as many followers as he can get.👺
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Post by AlaCowboy on Mar 24, 2024 8:50:08 GMT -5
Mike, Disbelief is not a sin in traditional Christian theology. The Apostle Thomas, himself, was in disbelief about Christ's Resurrection. The Church calls it, "the Blessed Doubt." The only unforgivable sin in Orthodox Christianity is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (of God.) This is rare. It is committed only by people who deny and blaspheme God AFTER the grace and truth of His Holy Spirit has been genuinely revealed to them. In the Gospels, Christ gave the example of this type of blasphemy in relation to some Pharisees who had witnessed his miracles, then accused him of being Satanic. A guy walking around performing miracles all day would be mighty impressive. If you ever accepted God and Jesus Christ, that would be a miracle indeed!
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Post by Walter on Mar 24, 2024 9:24:48 GMT -5
A guy walking around performing miracles all day would be mighty impressive. If you ever accepted God and Jesus Christ, that would be a miracle indeed!All he needs to do is show up at my door and ask.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Mar 24, 2024 10:19:20 GMT -5
If you ever accepted God and Jesus Christ, that would be a miracle indeed! All he needs to do is show up at my door and ask. Because you're too stupid to read, and/or just look around see for yourself?
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Mar 24, 2024 11:21:14 GMT -5
Momentary disbelief is forgivable. It is the constant refusal to believe despite prompts of conscience that will one day grieve away the Holy Spirit that is not. By then the person is given over to their delusions and no longer has any interest in God or seeking forgiveness. That is the unpardonable sin. Ultimately disbelief, the refusal to believe is the one and only unpardonable sin or a slew of related sin actually.
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Post by Walter on Mar 24, 2024 11:38:29 GMT -5
All he needs to do is show up at my door and ask. Because you're too stupid to read, and/or just look around see for yourself? Read? That's God's chosen method of communication? God's not terribly creative, and what is left for me to read is some really crazy ass bullshit. Look around? Come on...seriously? That's a selling point? War, famine, death, and a whole lot of hate spewed all across the planet as 'The Word of God'. If that's all God's got, that's pathetic. Supreme Beings must do better.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Mar 24, 2024 11:56:05 GMT -5
Because you're too stupid to read, and/or just look around see for yourself? Read? That's God's chosen method of communication? God's not terribly creative, and what is left for me to read is some really crazy ass bullshit. Look around? Come on...seriously? That's a selling point? War, famine, death, and a whole lot of hate spewed all across the planet as 'The Word of God'. If that's all God's got, that's pathetic. Supreme Beings must do better. Not creative (AFTER CREATION ITSELF), But you've always had a problem with FACT and TRUTH...as we can all see by your description. Yes, look around...ALL that crap you spouted is MAN, and SATAN...not God. Look at the trees, the flowers, the sun, CREATION...it didn't just happen on its own, now did it? ALL GOD'S GOT??? Quit acting like a damned fool...oh, I forgot what I said before...you're obviously not acting.
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Mar 24, 2024 13:45:26 GMT -5
Since when is disbelief a sin? This whole thread is a lie.
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Post by Walter on Mar 24, 2024 14:07:18 GMT -5
Since when is disbelief a sin? This whole thread is a lie. If it is not a sin, why can't a non-believer enjoy eternity in Heaven? It isn't a sin, yet it's the only thing that that will keep you out of this christian paradise you claim exists? Seems to me, it's the greatest sin there is. It's a mega-sin; the queen mother of all sins.
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Mar 24, 2024 18:06:43 GMT -5
“War, famine, death, and a whole lot of hate spewed all across the planet as 'The Word of God'.”
No. Those are the words and actions of the other side led by the great deceiver. Only secular progressive atheists blame God for the crimes of those who rebel against Him.
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Mar 24, 2024 18:18:10 GMT -5
Since when is disbelief a sin? This whole thread is a lie. If it is not a sin, why can't a non-believer enjoy eternity in Heaven? It isn't a sin, yet it's the only thing that that will keep you out of this christian paradise you claim exists? Seems to me, it's the greatest sin there is. It's a mega-sin; the queen mother of all sins. Clung to disbelief after repeatedly seeing the evidence and refusal to in the face of what is known to accept God and believe that Jesus is the savior who grants us eternal life if only by faith we believe is indeed the mother of all sins. Some of the words you’ve written here can cause some to wonder if you’ve said no to God one too many times and if the Holy Spirit has not yet been grieved away. Hopefully one day you will see the light.
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