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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 14, 2016 0:02:43 GMT -5
true, but this guy is at the top of virtually everyone's radar as a dual threat qb. still needs to sign, still needs to work to realize his potential, but yes, definitely good news. Another domino in the quarterback recruiting race fell Sunday night as Tate Martell committed to the Ohio State Buckeyes. Martell has been on the recruiting radar for a half decade now, first committing to Washington at age 14. He made news by later committing and then decommitting from Texas A&M, a move that ultimately led to a Texas A&M coach’s embarrassing subtweets. The Las Vegas Bishop Gorman star is rated as the No. 1 dual-threat QB in the class, a four-star at No. 55 overall as of the time of publish. He’s an excellent high school player and should be a good college quarterback. Some services have him as a five-star, but I am not buying the five-star tag for a 5’10.5 QB who is older than many of his peers. I wrote this for SB Nation’s Ohio State site, Land Grant Holy Land. Martell is an excellent high school player who faces good competition at Bishop Gorman. He needs to be in the spread offense so that he can have wider throwing windows due to being 5'10.5. He's athletic and can extend plays. Martell's delivery is unique and helps to compensate some for his lack of height. As an overaged player who was very good for so long, the question of upside is worth asking. Martell may be closer to being maxed out than his peers. That said, I think taking Martell is a smart move. Ohio State runs a spread offense under Urban Meyer, Martell was one of the best uncommitted quarterbacks in the nation and he is like a brother to five-star receiver Tyjon Lindsey, a tiny-but-explosive five-star slot receiver who is strongly considering Ohio State as well. If Martell can get Lindsey to join him in Columbus, Buckeyes would be quite happy. Ohio State now has the No. 1 class in the nation. and besides being short, he's also a leftie... |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 14, 2016 10:39:27 GMT -5
81 Anders, Billy J... C......................... 1965-67 Armstrong, Ralph A.................... 1949-51 Bell, Farley................................. 1975-76 Coleman, R.J........................ 2002, 04-05 Cook, Anthony..................................1988 Crawford, Ricky..................... 2008-09-10 DeLillo, Nic............................ 2008-09-10 Dwelle, Brad.............................. 1979-82 Frost, Marcel.............................. 2004-05 Hooks, Andre....................................2001 Hutchison, John......................... 1984-86 Jacobs, Matt.............................. 1994-95 Hooks, Andre....................................2002 Irizarry, Louis....................................2003 Kriss, Frederick C....................... 1954-56 Kuhn, Richard............................. 1968-70 Langenkamp, Steve..........................1993 Lease, Tom................................. 1989-92 Light, James.....................................1978 Lillie, Robert.....................................1974 Lord, John C.....................................1958 Maddox, Joel...................................1952 Marendt, Thomas L.................... 1971-72 Meyer, Terry............................... 1962-63 Shannon, Larry R..............................1947 Stephens, Larry P........................ 1959-60 Ullery, Brent............................... 2006-07 Vannett, Nick....................2011-12-13-14 Warnke, Darik............................ 1996-99 Billy Ray...three year letterman/starter, All Big Ten and team captain 1967. Nick Vannettt four year letterman, just got drafted... (& obviously, not a lot of stand-outs that wore #81) which leads me to this pic...Vannett, BUT.... |
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Post by bamorin on Jun 14, 2016 14:40:20 GMT -5
81 View AttachmentBilly Ray...three year letterman/starter, All Big Ten and team captain 1967. View AttachmentNick Vannettt four year letterman, just got drafted... (& obviously, not a lot of stand-outs that wore #81) which leads me to this pic...Vannett, BUT.... View AttachmentCory Smith plays like a SS when downfield blocking.......just de-cleated that uM DB. |
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 14, 2016 15:01:25 GMT -5
81 View AttachmentBilly Ray...three year letterman/starter, All Big Ten and team captain 1967. View AttachmentNick Vannettt four year letterman, just got drafted... (& obviously, not a lot of stand-outs that wore #81) which leads me to this pic...Vannett, BUT.... View AttachmentCory Smith plays like a SS when downfield blocking.......just de-cleated that uM DB. got tossed in the '14 big 10 ccg for doing the same thing to a uw db. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 14, 2016 15:42:11 GMT -5
Cory Smith plays like a SS when downfield blocking.......just de-cleated that uM DB. got tossed in the '14 big 10 ccg for doing the same thing to a uw db. Yeah...I thought that was a bs call too. (Plus I didn't get a pic yet of that one)  |
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Post by bamorin on Jun 14, 2016 20:30:18 GMT -5
Cory Smith plays like a SS when downfield blocking.......just de-cleated that uM DB. got tossed in the '14 big 10 ccg for doing the same thing to a uw db. Yep, perfect clean hit. Often said a receiver "hears footsteps" ......Cory makes DBs hear footsteps. And I've always been a fan of WRs who can block |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 15, 2016 8:10:18 GMT -5
80 Brown, Noah....................................2014 Brubaker, Carl R... C....................... 1953-54 Bruckner, Edwin................................1941 Dudley, Rickey............................ 1994-95 Fields, Chris................................ 2009-13 Fiers, Alan........................................1959 Germany, Reggie........................ 1997-00 Grimes, Robert L........................ 1950-52 Gurr, Mike.........................................1996 Hague, Leslie J.......................... 1947-49 Hamby, Ryan.............................. 2001-05 Houston, James, Jr..........................1978 Johnson, Robert T...................... 1965-66 Kay, Donald F....................................1943 Kessler, Carlton G.............................1945 McCarthy, Jeffrey............................1981 Middleton, Robert L................... 1960-62 Moss, Eric.................................. 1992-93 Motejzik, John J..............................1944 Myers, Raymond..............................1980 Pagac, Fred................................. 1971-73 Robiskie, Brian... C........................ 2006-08 Roy, Chris................................... 1988-91 Souders, Cecil B......................... 1942-46 Stock, Robert H................................1964 Storer, Greg................................ 1975-77 Taggart, Ed................................. 1983-86 White, Jan... C.............................. 1968-70 Zawacki, Charles E...........................1955 Cecil Souders, AA 1946; also selected as Team MVP. Jan White, AA 1970; also selected as Team Captain. Rickey Dudley, All Big Ten 1995. Ed Taggert was also selected All Big Ten in 1986, but I was unable to locate a picture of him. |
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 15, 2016 9:02:36 GMT -5
80 Brown, Noah....................................2014 Brubaker, Carl R... C....................... 1953-54 Bruckner, Edwin................................1941 Dudley, Rickey............................ 1994-95 Fields, Chris................................ 2009-13 Fiers, Alan........................................1959 Germany, Reggie........................ 1997-00 Grimes, Robert L........................ 1950-52 Gurr, Mike.........................................1996 Hague, Leslie J.......................... 1947-49 Hamby, Ryan.............................. 2001-05 Houston, James, Jr..........................1978 Johnson, Robert T...................... 1965-66 Kay, Donald F....................................1943 Kessler, Carlton G.............................1945 McCarthy, Jeffrey............................1981 Middleton, Robert L................... 1960-62 Moss, Eric.................................. 1992-93 Motejzik, John J..............................1944 Myers, Raymond..............................1980 Pagac, Fred................................. 1971-73 Robiskie, Brian... C........................ 2006-08 Roy, Chris................................... 1988-91 Souders, Cecil B......................... 1942-46 Stock, Robert H................................1964 Storer, Greg................................ 1975-77 Taggart, Ed................................. 1983-86 White, Jan... C.............................. 1968-70 Zawacki, Charles E...........................1955 View AttachmentCecil Souders, AA 1946; also selected as Team MVP. View AttachmentJan White, AA 1970; also selected as Team Captain. View AttachmentRickey Dudley, All Big Ten 1995. Ed Taggert was also selected All Big Ten in 1986, but I was unable to locate a picture of him. dudley might be one of the last true two-sport stars at osu, having played hoops also. fred pagac made his mark coaching the silver bullets defense here under cooper thru the 90's, but he was a rock solid te who had maybe his greatest game on the biggest stage at the '74 rose bowl, catching 4 passes for 89 yards (he only caught 5 in the previous 10 games). also have to say something about ryan hamby. i first met him on the flight back to ohio from florida after osu got nipped by south carolina 31-28 in tampa. he was a freshman who had played only on special teams. good guy. 3 years later we're at a tailgate after the '04 win over um and hamby stopped by right as we were beginning to leave. we recognized each other from the flight, which impressed both me and my wife (that he remembered me, not the reverse), and could not have been classier in conversation about his career, classes, times at osu. unfortunately, for a majority of buckeye fans, they remember him for just one play; the dropped pass on what might have been the game-clinching td vs texas in '05. instead osu settled for a fg, vince young led a last second td drive and the horns 25-22 win. i felt sick for him... the insults hurled at him just from a couple guys sitting behind me brought tears to jodi's eyes and made me turn around and give my two cents. the internet insults were even worse. it is the price you pay when you play football at places like ohio state; you're remembered forever, for better or worse, on plays like that. last i knew he was working for medical device supplier in chicago but i heard he'd moved back to columbus this spring for a new job... hope he's doing ok. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 15, 2016 9:20:53 GMT -5
80 Brown, Noah....................................2014 Brubaker, Carl R... C....................... 1953-54 Bruckner, Edwin................................1941 Dudley, Rickey............................ 1994-95 Fields, Chris................................ 2009-13 Fiers, Alan........................................1959 Germany, Reggie........................ 1997-00 Grimes, Robert L........................ 1950-52 Gurr, Mike.........................................1996 Hague, Leslie J.......................... 1947-49 Hamby, Ryan.............................. 2001-05 Houston, James, Jr..........................1978 Johnson, Robert T...................... 1965-66 Kay, Donald F....................................1943 Kessler, Carlton G.............................1945 McCarthy, Jeffrey............................1981 Middleton, Robert L................... 1960-62 Moss, Eric.................................. 1992-93 Motejzik, John J..............................1944 Myers, Raymond..............................1980 Pagac, Fred................................. 1971-73 Robiskie, Brian... C........................ 2006-08 Roy, Chris................................... 1988-91 Souders, Cecil B......................... 1942-46 Stock, Robert H................................1964 Storer, Greg................................ 1975-77 Taggart, Ed................................. 1983-86 White, Jan... C.............................. 1968-70 Zawacki, Charles E...........................1955 Cecil Souders, AA 1946; also selected as Team MVP. Jan White, AA 1970; also selected as Team Captain. Rickey Dudley, All Big Ten 1995. Ed Taggert was also selected All Big Ten in 1986, but I was unable to locate a picture of him. dudley might be one of the last true two-sport stars at osu, having played hoops also. fred pagac made his mark coaching the silver bullets defense here under cooper thru the 90's, but he was a rock solid te who had maybe his greatest game on the biggest stage at the '74 rose bowl, catching 4 passes for 89 yards (he only caught 5 in the previous 10 games). also have to say something about ryan hamby. i first met him on the flight back to ohio from florida after osu got nipped by south carolina 31-28 in tampa. he was a freshman who had played only on special teams. good guy. 3 years later we're at a tailgate after the '04 win over um and hamby stopped by right as we were beginning to leave. we recognized each other from the flight, which impressed both me and my wife (that he remembered me, not the reverse), and could not have been classier in conversation about his career, classes, times at osu. unfortunately, for a majority of buckeye fans, they remember him for just one play; the dropped pass on what might have been the game-clinching td vs texas in '05. instead osu settled for a fg, vince young led a last second td drive and the horns 25-22 win. i felt sick for him... the insults hurled at him just from a couple guys sitting behind me brought tears to jodi's eyes and made me turn around and give my two cents. the internet insults were even worse. it is the price you pay when you play football at places like ohio state; you're remembered forever, for better or worse, on plays like that. last i knew he was working for medical device supplier in chicago but i heard he'd moved back to columbus this spring for a new job... hope he's doing ok. While looking for pics, I saw several Dudley cards with him in BB attire...even considered posting one, as I'd think many fans, especially younger, don't know or have forgotten. It is a shame about Hamby, but you're right...players are remembered for THOSE PLAYS, good and bad. I'm sure Justin Zwick and his fans would like to know 'what IF he'd caught that ball' and all the changes that may have brought about... I remember that Rose Bowl, and the catches, but didn't remember Pagac's name connected with them. Funny sometimes of the little tricks our brains play on our memories...especially as we try to cram more memories in there.... |
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Post by bamorin on Jun 15, 2016 11:37:02 GMT -5
unfortunately, for a majority of buckeye fans, they remember him for just one play; the dropped pass on what might have been the game-clinching td vs texas in '05. funny how a game goes for 60 minutes, but only the last ones count........early 1st quarter, (first series actually) Gonzales and Ginn both dropped passes in the right flat that had no defender between them and the endzone. Instead of opening the game 7 to ZIP, OSU punts. |
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 15, 2016 13:21:56 GMT -5
unfortunately, for a majority of buckeye fans, they remember him for just one play; the dropped pass on what might have been the game-clinching td vs texas in '05. funny how a game goes for 60 minutes, but only the last ones count........early 1st quarter, (first series actually) Gonzales and Ginn both dropped passes in the right flat that had no defender between them and the endzone. Instead of opening the game 7 to ZIP, OSU punts. not to mention that troy smith was held out of spring/fall practice and the '05 opener vs miami oh for accepting the $500 booster gift... 'if' he'd been getting normal reps? would either the texas or psu outcome a couple weeks have changed? we'll never know. that '05 team was loaded. in the other 12 games texas played/won that year, the horns scored 627 points. that's 52.3/game. osu held them to 25. the defense held them to 23. but when you're in scoring position 6 times and come away with just 1 td and 5 fg's, that stacks the deck against you vs a good team. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 16, 2016 8:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 16, 2016 9:15:20 GMT -5
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Post by bamorin on Jun 16, 2016 9:23:31 GMT -5
Chris Ward, the largest of Woody's linemen. Tipped the scale at a whopping 270 pounds. funny how a generation later, that would be smallish DE size.
"he stood 6 foot 6, weighed 245, broad at the shoulder, and narrow at the hip, everybody knew you didn't give no lip to Big John......Big Bad John"
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 16, 2016 10:48:09 GMT -5
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