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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 23, 2024 17:28:53 GMT -5
We disagree on the question of bailing when you’re asked why you’ve decided to include certain specific aspects of a whole but not others, and your response is effectively, because I said so.
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Nov 23, 2024 17:35:28 GMT -5
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 17:47:47 GMT -5
I don’t bail or waffle. I also don’t waste my time when someone can’t accept an answer and simply move on. For example, I have no desire to spend 3 days on things like the word “wealth” being used in relation to Gaza. That was insanely stupid on his part. Don’t come in trying to play cheerleader. Lol Pathetic. |
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 17:48:02 GMT -5
What IS understood is that trd is a complete dick. Ironic post is ironic. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 23, 2024 17:54:08 GMT -5
LOL. I never drew the line in the sand that you're claiming....you did that. You made that accusation, doubled down on it and now expect me to defend something I never said in the first place. I'm not playing that game with you.
Bullshit. Walt was referencing this exact conversation long before I came along, so clearly he recognized and attempted to address this exact issue long before I did. I didn’t draw the lines. You did. Or perhaps Walt did. But in either event…this discussion began before me.
Feel free to post where I said what you're claiming....i.e. where I "demanded" that one fact be included and opposed any number of others. You made the accusation, so back it up.
It’s in two parts. The first is this…
“If you’re going to talk about slavery, teach it in full. Not to cut slack, simply to teach the full story. In the case of the North Atlantic slave trade, why ignore 95% of it?”
At best, you recognize by this point that the notion of “teaching the full story” is misleading at best. Some people spend an entire career learning about the “full story”, so your notions of distilling the full story down to a one semester, or one year course will never tell the full story. You know this. So…we must pick and choose which aspects of the full story we should include, right?
The second part is this…
“I disagree that the numbers are not meaningful. And I haven’t made any claims that those numbers make the U.S. superior. The numbers are what they are, so teach them. Don’t ignore them. That’s all I’m saying.”
Since we’ve established that we have to pick and choose which facts are included, you’ve focused on THAT fact as meaningful enough as to be included within the dynamic of the “full story”.
So…you’ve claimed it. Why are they meaningful enough to be included in a discussion about American history? What’s the motivation?
Here’s where you’ll likely retreat back to the “well because it’s the full story”. No, it’s not, and you know it. We’ve already agreed that we can’t teach the full story. We’re teaching a broadly generalized version of the full story, leaving out, by necessity, all sorts of facts that are pertinent to the full story. But…ball’s in your court. Explain why you feel that THAT particular fact should be included within the distilled version of American history that we teach?
[/quot Sorry, but ball’s still in your court. I asked you to post where I demanded one fact be included and opposed any number of others. You didn’t do that, so until you do so or admit you can’t…you get no answers from me. |
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 17:59:47 GMT -5
[/quot Sorry, but ball’s still in your court. I asked you to post where I demanded one fact be included and opposed any number of others. You didn’t do that, so until you do so or admit you can’t…you get no answers from me. Wait a minute… Where did I say that you “opposed” the inclusion of any others? Not sure I ever said that. I said, and continue to assert, that you seem to be insistent on the inclusion of THIS fact. So, let’s back up another step and have you post where I claimed what you said I claimed, because I never said “and opposed to”, I said “as opposed to”, which has an entirely different meaning. |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 23, 2024 18:12:56 GMT -5
Wait a minute… Where did I say that you “opposed” the inclusion of any others? Not sure I ever said that. I said, and continue to assert, that you seem to be insistent on the inclusion of THIS fact. So, let’s back up another step and have you post where I claimed what you said I claimed, because I never said “and opposed to”, I said “as opposed to”, which has an entirely different meaning. Loser…. |
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 18:15:19 GMT -5
Lol…don’t hurt yourself Corky. |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 23, 2024 18:49:21 GMT -5
That was insanely stupid on his part. Don’t come in trying to play cheerleader. Lol Pathetic. Don’t tell me what to do or don’t do you troll of most of my threads. |
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 18:58:20 GMT -5
Don’t come in trying to play cheerleader. Lol Pathetic. Don’t tell me what to do or don’t do you troll of most of my threads. I’ll do what I want, bitch. And, like always…you’ll sit there and read it. Otherwise, block me like the punk you are. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 23, 2024 19:00:54 GMT -5
Wait a minute… Where did I say that you “opposed” the inclusion of any others? Not sure I ever said that. I said, and continue to assert, that you seem to be insistent on the inclusion of THIS fact. So, let’s back up another step and have you post where I claimed what you said I claimed, because I never said “and opposed to”, I said “as opposed to”, which has an entirely different meaning. No, not backing up another step. And not playing your semantic game, either. And or as makes no difference. Post where I “demanded”inclusion of one fact “as” opposed to others or “and” opposed to others. Fact is I didn’t demand anything of the kind. So, either post where I did or admit you can’t. |
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 19:03:53 GMT -5
No, not backing up another step. And not playing your semantic game, either. And or as makes no difference. Post where I “demanded”inclusion of one fact “as” opposed to others or “and” opposed to others. Fact is I didn’t demand anything of the kind. So, either post where I did or admit you can’t. Bullshit. It isn’t semantics to point out that I never said that you were opposed to certain facts. I said you were demanding this one be included AS OPPOSED to others. As evidence…. I posted it. “I disagree that the numbers are not meaningful. And I haven’t made any claims that those numbers make the U.S. superior. The numbers are what they are, so teach them. Don’t ignore them.” What is that shit if it isn’t a demand? Are you suggesting with a straight face that unless you use the words “I demand”, that means you aren’t demanding them? Who is playing bullshit semantics names now, Harry? Cut that nonsense out. |
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Post by dilligaf on Nov 23, 2024 19:12:34 GMT -5
As usual, Yip-yip has steered this entire thread off the original topic, and turned it into a pissing contest in order to bring attention to his pathetic self.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 23, 2024 19:17:30 GMT -5
As usual, Yip-yip has steered this entire thread off the original topic, and turned it into a pissing contest in order to bring attention to his pathetic self. Feel free to piss off then and stick with misrepresenting the English language and not reading links. |
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Post by dilligaf on Nov 23, 2024 19:21:46 GMT -5
No one owes YOU an explanation of why they think like they do. If their explanation is "because I say so," deal with it.
Your approval or disapproval of others' opinions means NOTHING.
It's really not too hard to understand. I do deal with it. By condemning it for the chickenshit response that it is.
Deal with THAT.
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