trump declares he is officially not releasing tax returns

[snap infraction]

lets put aside that the likely secretary of state was once awarded a medal by the russian government.  

and lets ignore for a second that the newly appointed national security adviser michael flynn is now under investigation by federal law enforcement officials for his communications with russia.  

aaannd lets overlook for a minute that numerous federal agencies are currently investigating paul manafort, trump’s former campaign chairman; carter page, a former trump foreign policy adviser; and roger stone, a republican political operative and confidante for their financial ties to russia.  

oh and please lets completely forget that after trump screwed over all types of lenders and creditors while he was destroying his mini atlantic city empire with incompetence and neglect, no reputable bank in america would lend to him and he was forced to borrow from various unknown foreign sources in order to keep his business afloat.  

lets talk about trumps tax returns.  the same returns that every president since ford has released to the public.   the same returns that trump refused to release during the campaign b/c he claimed he was under audit even though he provided zero proof that he was actually under an audit.  he claimed that he would release the returns once he was president.  and now trump is stating he will not voluntarily release his tax returns at all.  breaking another promise.  he is claiming that people aren't interested, which we know is bullshit. 74% of people want to see his tax returns.  remember, trump once claimed that he could shoot people and not lose any votes.  but yet is afraid of releasing his tax returns?

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to, how is personally benefits from policy decisions he makes, how his business is tied to how other leaders and other foreign influential businessman make money.  

so now lets connect the dots.  trump became reliant on foreign capital to finance his business ventures after he screwed over a bunch of US creditors in the 90's.  trump runs for president, supports every position that putin needs to breakup NATO and the EU and then goes to absurd lengths to deny russia's obviously involvement in hacking the DNC during the election.  and then trump refuses to release any financial documents that could show the extent of his financial ties with foreign countries.  meanwhile, seemingly every close advisor to trump is under some sort of investigation for their ties with the russian government.  

am i being a conspiracy theorist?  like one of those people who spent years obsessively analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii after obama was elected looking for any flaw?  maybe.  but all trump has to do is release his birth certificate and he can put all this doubt i have to rest.  yet he won't.  and he won't provide a good reason.  

[Buckeye Dale]

Jan 23, 2017 8:39:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

lets put aside that the likely secretary of state was once awarded a medal by the russian government.  

and lets ignore for a second that the newly appointed national security adviser michael flynn is now under investigation by federal law enforcement officials for his communications with russia.  

aaannd lets overlook for a minute that numerous federal agencies are currently investigating paul manafort, trump’s former campaign chairman; carter page, a former trump foreign policy adviser; and roger stone, a republican political operative and confidante for their financial ties to russia.  

oh and please lets completely forget that after trump screwed over all types of lenders and creditors while he was destroying his mini atlantic city empire with incompetence and neglect, no reputable bank in america would lend to him and he was forced to borrow from various unknown foreign sources in order to keep his business afloat.  

lets talk about trumps tax returns.  the same returns that every president since ford has released to the public.   the same returns that trump refused to release during the campaign b/c he claimed he was under audit even though he provided zero proof that he was actually under an audit.  he claimed that he would release the returns once he was president.  and now trump is stating he will not voluntarily release his tax returns at all.  breaking another promise.  he is claiming that people aren't interested, which we know is bullshit. 74% of people want to see his tax returns.  remember, trump once claimed that he could shoot people and not lose any votes.  but yet is afraid of releasing his tax returns?

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to, how is personally benefits from policy decisions he makes, how his business is tied to how other leaders and other foreign influential businessman make money.  

so now lets connect the dots.  trump became reliant on foreign capital to finance his business ventures after he screwed over a bunch of US creditors in the 90's.  trump runs for president, supports every position that putin needs to breakup NATO and the EU and then goes to absurd lengths to deny russia's obviously involvement in hacking the DNC during the election.  and then trump refuses to release any financial documents that could show the extent of his financial ties with foreign countries.  meanwhile, seemingly every close advisor to trump is under some sort of investigation for their ties with the russian government.  

am i being a conspiracy theorist?  like one of those people who spent years obsessively analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii after obama was elected looking for any flaw?  maybe.  but all trump has to do is release his birth certificate and he can put all this doubt i have to rest.  yet he won't.  and he won't provide a good reason.  

Simple solution...don't vote for him next election.

[snap infraction]

Jan 23, 2017 9:09:34 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jan 23, 2017 8:39:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

lets put aside that the likely secretary of state was once awarded a medal by the russian government.  

and lets ignore for a second that the newly appointed national security adviser michael flynn is now under investigation by federal law enforcement officials for his communications with russia.  

aaannd lets overlook for a minute that numerous federal agencies are currently investigating paul manafort, trump’s former campaign chairman; carter page, a former trump foreign policy adviser; and roger stone, a republican political operative and confidante for their financial ties to russia.  

oh and please lets completely forget that after trump screwed over all types of lenders and creditors while he was destroying his mini atlantic city empire with incompetence and neglect, no reputable bank in america would lend to him and he was forced to borrow from various unknown foreign sources in order to keep his business afloat.  

lets talk about trumps tax returns.  the same returns that every president since ford has released to the public.   the same returns that trump refused to release during the campaign b/c he claimed he was under audit even though he provided zero proof that he was actually under an audit.  he claimed that he would release the returns once he was president.  and now trump is stating he will not voluntarily release his tax returns at all.  breaking another promise.  he is claiming that people aren't interested, which we know is bullshit. 74% of people want to see his tax returns.  remember, trump once claimed that he could shoot people and not lose any votes.  but yet is afraid of releasing his tax returns?

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to, how is personally benefits from policy decisions he makes, how his business is tied to how other leaders and other foreign influential businessman make money.  

so now lets connect the dots.  trump became reliant on foreign capital to finance his business ventures after he screwed over a bunch of US creditors in the 90's.  trump runs for president, supports every position that putin needs to breakup NATO and the EU and then goes to absurd lengths to deny russia's obviously involvement in hacking the DNC during the election.  and then trump refuses to release any financial documents that could show the extent of his financial ties with foreign countries.  meanwhile, seemingly every close advisor to trump is under some sort of investigation for their ties with the russian government.  

am i being a conspiracy theorist?  like one of those people who spent years obsessively analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii after obama was elected looking for any flaw?  maybe.  but all trump has to do is release his birth certificate and he can put all this doubt i have to rest.  yet he won't.  and he won't provide a good reason.  

Simple solution...don't vote for him IF HE MAKES IT TO next election.

fixed it for you.  

[Deleted]

- What about all the presidents before Ford? Did they release their tax returns?

- He's not required by law to release his tax returns.

- No source was cited for your multitude of claims above.

- You have a chip on your shoulder for Trump.

[snap infraction]

Jan 23, 2017 9:19:26 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

- What about all the presidents before Ford? Did they release their tax returns?

- He's not required by law to release his tax returns.

- No source was cited for your multitude of claims above.

- You have a chip on your shoulder for Trump.

- not sure who released prior to ford.  but no president has had the potential conflicts being that trump has a variety of foreign business interests (that he refuses to divest from which pose another host of ethical questions the white house completely ignores)

- true.  it's not required by law.  but it is mandated by the public b/c transparency of our elected leader to the highest office of the land is vital.  

- what sources would you like to provide.  while i am 100% certain you will dismiss every source as bias, i have no problem backing up anything i claimed.

 www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.35e50ec48732

would you like to read about the time that trump purchased a 40 million dollar mansion  and flipped it to a russian businessman with close ties to putin for 100 million?  money.cnn.com/2016/07/27/news/donald-trump-russian-deal-mansion?  oh and fwiw, the guy who bought it never stepped foot in the house.  

i have many more links if you would like to read more about trumps financial ties to russia.  
  
- yes i do have a chip on my shoulder for trump.  that i am not denying.  

[Deleted]

Jan 23, 2017 9:43:32 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jan 23, 2017 9:19:26 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

- What about all the presidents before Ford? Did they release their tax returns?

- He's not required by law to release his tax returns.

- No source was cited for your multitude of claims above.

- You have a chip on your shoulder for Trump.

- not sure who released prior to ford.  but no president has had the potential conflicts being that trump has a variety of foreign business interests (that he refuses to divest from which pose another host of ethical questions the white house completely ignores)

- true.  it's not required by law.  but it is mandated by the public b/c transparency of our elected leader to the highest office of the land is vital.  

- what sources would you like to provide.  while i am 100% certain you will dismiss every source as bias, i have no problem backing up anything i claimed.

 www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.35e50ec48732

would you like to read about the time that trump purchased a 40 million dollar mansion  and flipped it to a russian businessman with close ties to putin for 100 million?  money.cnn.com/2016/07/27/news/donald-trump-russian-deal-mansion?  oh and fwiw, the guy who bought it never stepped foot in the house.  

i have many more links if you would like to read more about trumps financial ties to russia.  
  
- yes i do have a chip on my shoulder for trump.  that i am not denying.  

I honestly don't care about any of that as long as Trump gets things done and the country prosperous again. If he becomes another do-nothing obama I'm going to have a huge problem with all of that. I'm guardedly optimistic but half of this country isn't even willing to give him a chance.

[snap infraction]

Jan 23, 2017 9:49:29 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Jan 23, 2017 9:43:32 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

- not sure who released prior to ford.  but no president has had the potential conflicts being that trump has a variety of foreign business interests (that he refuses to divest from which pose another host of ethical questions the white house completely ignores)

- true.  it's not required by law.  but it is mandated by the public b/c transparency of our elected leader to the highest office of the land is vital.  

- what sources would you like to provide.  while i am 100% certain you will dismiss every source as bias, i have no problem backing up anything i claimed.

 www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.35e50ec48732

would you like to read about the time that trump purchased a 40 million dollar mansion  and flipped it to a russian businessman with close ties to putin for 100 million?  money.cnn.com/2016/07/27/news/donald-trump-russian-deal-mansion?  oh and fwiw, the guy who bought it never stepped foot in the house.  

i have many more links if you would like to read more about trumps financial ties to russia.  
  
- yes i do have a chip on my shoulder for trump.  that i am not denying.  

I honestly don't care about any of that as long as Trump gets things done and the country prosperous again. If he becomes another do-nothing obama I'm going to have a huge problem with all of that. I'm guardedly optimistic but half of this country isn't even willing to give him a chance.

so the country wasn't prosperous between 2009 and 2016?  

[bamorin]

Jan 23, 2017 8:39:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to,

really, what schedule shows that?


analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii

certificate of birth......there is a difference. I have one each, my SSN is attached to my certificate of birth.

[Deleted]

Jan 23, 2017 10:03:36 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jan 23, 2017 9:49:29 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

I honestly don't care about any of that as long as Trump gets things done and the country prosperous again. If he becomes another do-nothing obama I'm going to have a huge problem with all of that. I'm guardedly optimistic but half of this country isn't even willing to give him a chance.

so the country wasn't prosperous between 2009 and 2016?  

Well if you cook the numbers and change the parameters of how they're reported like obamaco did then I suppose you could say we were prosperous.
Plenty of non-fake info out there that proves otherwise.

[mscott59]

Jan 23, 2017 8:39:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

lets put aside that the likely secretary of state was once awarded a medal by the russian government.  

and lets ignore for a second that the newly appointed national security adviser michael flynn is now under investigation by federal law enforcement officials for his communications with russia.  

aaannd lets overlook for a minute that numerous federal agencies are currently investigating paul manafort, trump’s former campaign chairman; carter page, a former trump foreign policy adviser; and roger stone, a republican political operative and confidante for their financial ties to russia.  

oh and please lets completely forget that after trump screwed over all types of lenders and creditors while he was destroying his mini atlantic city empire with incompetence and neglect, no reputable bank in america would lend to him and he was forced to borrow from various unknown foreign sources in order to keep his business afloat.  

lets talk about trumps tax returns.  the same returns that every president since ford has released to the public.   the same returns that trump refused to release during the campaign b/c he claimed he was under audit even though he provided zero proof that he was actually under an audit.  he claimed that he would release the returns once he was president.  and now trump is stating he will not voluntarily release his tax returns at all.  breaking another promise.  he is claiming that people aren't interested, which we know is bullshit. 74% of people want to see his tax returns.  remember, trump once claimed that he could shoot people and not lose any votes.  but yet is afraid of releasing his tax returns?

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to, how is personally benefits from policy decisions he makes, how his business is tied to how other leaders and other foreign influential businessman make money.  

so now lets connect the dots.  trump became reliant on foreign capital to finance his business ventures after he screwed over a bunch of US creditors in the 90's.  trump runs for president, supports every position that putin needs to breakup NATO and the EU and then goes to absurd lengths to deny russia's obviously involvement in hacking the DNC during the election.  and then trump refuses to release any financial documents that could show the extent of his financial ties with foreign countries.  meanwhile, seemingly every close advisor to trump is under some sort of investigation for their ties with the russian government.  

am i being a conspiracy theorist?  like one of those people who spent years obsessively analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii after obama was elected looking for any flaw?  maybe.  but all trump has to do is release his birth certificate and he can put all this doubt i have to rest.  yet he won't.  and he won't provide a good reason.  

the trump carnival carousel didn't take long to start spinning. lol. once again, imho he's not in fear of revealing it as much as just flippin protocol the bird, to prove who's 'really' the boss now. he got elected w/o sharing his taxes... so he figures that's not a necessary step anymore. reporters press him on what he said during the campaign, and he hops on the 'dishonest media who's just out to get him' train again. which of course his base will lap up. frankly his 1040's would not likely uncover any ties to foreign banks in terms of his businesses, but his 1120's would. of course, there's no way in hell trump is going to roll out his corporate tax ledgers. fulfilling a campaign promise on his personal returns would at least give him a little (emphasis on little) collateral w/those who might be on the fence about him, but i doubt he even cares about that.

btw willie posted a ny times article back in the summer detailing a lot of the complexities and controversy surrounding trump's business history, including the foreign bank dealings, that was interesting reading. its funny that trump's thin skin claims of bad treatment from the press comes on the heels of the primary, where the tv news outlets completely dropped the ball on vetting trump's background, preferring the ratings that his campaign and debate persona generated.

[Walter]

Jan 23, 2017 10:06:21 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Jan 23, 2017 10:03:36 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

so the country wasn't prosperous between 2009 and 2016?  

Well if you cook the numbers and change the parameters of how they're reported like obamaco did then I suppose you could say we were prosperous.
Plenty of non-fake info out there that proves otherwise.

i did not know that Obama controlled the NYSE and cooked the DJIA. Can you post a link to evidence of that?

[mscott59]

Jan 23, 2017 10:06:21 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Jan 23, 2017 10:03:36 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

so the country wasn't prosperous between 2009 and 2016?  

Well if you cook the numbers and change the parameters of how they're reported like obamaco did then I suppose you could say we were prosperous.
Plenty of non-fake info out there that proves otherwise.

8 years of alternative facts? that's how you're describing the economic numbers? ?

[Walter]

Jan 23, 2017 10:47:04 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jan 23, 2017 10:06:21 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Well if you cook the numbers and change the parameters of how they're reported like obamaco did then I suppose you could say we were prosperous.
Plenty of non-fake info out there that proves otherwise.

8 years of alternative facts? that's how you're describing the economic numbers? ?

LOL.
Just alternative facts.

[snap infraction]

Jan 23, 2017 10:42:51 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jan 23, 2017 8:39:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

lets put aside that the likely secretary of state was once awarded a medal by the russian government.  

and lets ignore for a second that the newly appointed national security adviser michael flynn is now under investigation by federal law enforcement officials for his communications with russia.  

aaannd lets overlook for a minute that numerous federal agencies are currently investigating paul manafort, trump’s former campaign chairman; carter page, a former trump foreign policy adviser; and roger stone, a republican political operative and confidante for their financial ties to russia.  

oh and please lets completely forget that after trump screwed over all types of lenders and creditors while he was destroying his mini atlantic city empire with incompetence and neglect, no reputable bank in america would lend to him and he was forced to borrow from various unknown foreign sources in order to keep his business afloat.  

lets talk about trumps tax returns.  the same returns that every president since ford has released to the public.   the same returns that trump refused to release during the campaign b/c he claimed he was under audit even though he provided zero proof that he was actually under an audit.  he claimed that he would release the returns once he was president.  and now trump is stating he will not voluntarily release his tax returns at all.  breaking another promise.  he is claiming that people aren't interested, which we know is bullshit. 74% of people want to see his tax returns.  remember, trump once claimed that he could shoot people and not lose any votes.  but yet is afraid of releasing his tax returns?

the tax returns are important b/c they are the only way for us to know who he is in debt to, how is personally benefits from policy decisions he makes, how his business is tied to how other leaders and other foreign influential businessman make money.  

so now lets connect the dots.  trump became reliant on foreign capital to finance his business ventures after he screwed over a bunch of US creditors in the 90's.  trump runs for president, supports every position that putin needs to breakup NATO and the EU and then goes to absurd lengths to deny russia's obviously involvement in hacking the DNC during the election.  and then trump refuses to release any financial documents that could show the extent of his financial ties with foreign countries.  meanwhile, seemingly every close advisor to trump is under some sort of investigation for their ties with the russian government.  

am i being a conspiracy theorist?  like one of those people who spent years obsessively analyzing the birth certificate released by the state of hawaii after obama was elected looking for any flaw?  maybe.  but all trump has to do is release his birth certificate and he can put all this doubt i have to rest.  yet he won't.  and he won't provide a good reason.  

the trump carnival carousel didn't take long to start spinning. lol. once again, imho he's not in fear of revealing it as much as just flippin protocol the bird, to prove who's 'really' the boss now. he got elected w/o sharing his taxes... so he figures that's not a necessary step anymore. reporters press him on what he said during the campaign, and he hops on the 'dishonest media who's just out to get him' train again. which of course his base will lap up. frankly his 1040's would not likely uncover any ties to foreign banks in terms of his businesses, but his 1120's would. of course, there's no way in hell trump is going to roll out his corporate tax ledgers. fulfilling a campaign promise on his personal returns would at least give him a little (emphasis on little) collateral w/those who might be on the fence about him, but i doubt he even cares about that.

btw willie posted a ny times article back in the summer detailing a lot of the complexities and controversy surrounding trump's business history, including the foreign bank dealings, that was interesting reading. its funny that trump's thin skin claims of bad treatment from the press comes on the heels of the primary, where the tv news outlets completely dropped the ball on vetting trump's background, preferring the ratings that his campaign and debate persona generated.

you're correct but none of this addresses the fact that so many people close to trump have close ties with russia.  it's just too strange to merely be a coincidence.  

[Walter]

And let us not forget to tally up the broken promises. He's 3 days in and the promise to release his returns is kaput.

...and then there's this.


"...Trump Counselor Kellyanne Conway stated today that Trump will not release his tax returns. Send them to: wikileaks.org/#submit so we can...."