Water boarding

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Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

Jan 25, 2017 21:19:06 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Yeah...you go beyond misguided to ridiculous...when I was a platoon sergeant, I always told my guys that I wasn't going to come around and check them for underage drinking...but if they sat in their rooms and got drunk, and then got stupid and caused shit to happen, underage drinking would be added to their charges.  Sort of like the seat belt laws...you don't get pulled over for not wearing your seat belt.  But if you're pulled over for speeding AND aren't wearing your seat belt...

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

.1 of a mile is 528 ft.  Why not walk?  Now THAT is lazy!!!!




Seriously though,  I think it is pathetic that a liberal would worry about a terrorist's discomfort while having no problem with the pain and suffering an unborn baby goes through when it is torn apart or burned alive by an abortionist.
THIS is why liberals are so damn disgusting.    They have NO feelings for the truly innocent.
 

[Walter]

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

Jan 25, 2017 21:19:06 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Yeah...you go beyond misguided to ridiculous...when I was a platoon sergeant, I always told my guys that I wasn't going to come around and check them for underage drinking...but if they sat in their rooms and got drunk, and then got stupid and caused shit to happen, underage drinking would be added to their charges.  Sort of like the seat belt laws...you don't get pulled over for not wearing your seat belt.  But if you're pulled over for speeding AND aren't wearing your seat belt...

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

Frankly, I was really just quoting John McCain's position. He said it and I repeated it. IMO there is only one person in government qualified to speak on the subject, and I am proud to be on his side of the argument and you should be ashamed if you aren't.

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Jan 26, 2017 0:16:27 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

Frankly, I was really just quoting John McCain's position. He said it and I repeated it. IMO there is only one person in government qualified to speak on the subject, and I am proud to be on his side of the argument and you should be ashamed if you aren't.

But you are NOT ashamed of being on the side of the pain and suffering an unborn baby goes through when it is torn apart or burned alive by an abortionist.
That speaks VOLUMES.


And our gov't policies are NOT set by one man who is NOT the President of the U.S.   If McCain wanted to run things, he should have gotten himself elected President.   Apparently not that many people trust his judgment.  
This time it is YOU is shot down, trying to hide behind John McCain, whose reasoning is obviously flawed..

[lz2112]

Jan 26, 2017 0:16:27 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

Frankly, I was really just quoting John McCain's position. He said it and I repeated it. IMO there is only one person in government qualified to speak on the subject, and I am proud to be on his side of the argument and you should be ashamed if you aren't.

Did you miss the part that I said I agreed with you?

You need to go back to your roots and take a few hits (apparently it's stronger now) or swallow a 714 or two.

Since Trump has been elected, uptight does not begin to describe you.

[Buckeye Dale]

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

Jan 25, 2017 21:19:06 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Yeah...you go beyond misguided to ridiculous...when I was a platoon sergeant, I always told my guys that I wasn't going to come around and check them for underage drinking...but if they sat in their rooms and got drunk, and then got stupid and caused shit to happen, underage drinking would be added to their charges.  Sort of like the seat belt laws...you don't get pulled over for not wearing your seat belt.  But if you're pulled over for speeding AND aren't wearing your seat belt...

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

I don't know that I endorse it...I'm just saying it isn't like the pictures we see of what happened in Asia from the 1930s thru the 70s.  Is it pleasant?  HELL no...but then, neither are sit ups. If I had been able to make it thru life with water boarding as the worst thing that ever happened to me, I would have considered myself very, VERY fortunate.

[Buckeye Dale]

Jan 26, 2017 6:25:11 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

I don't know that I endorse it...I'm just saying it isn't like the pictures we see of what happened in Asia from the 1930s thru the 70s.  Is it pleasant?  HELL no...but then, neither are sit ups. If I had been able to make it thru life with water boarding as the worst thing that ever happened to me, I would have considered myself very, VERY fortunate.

Oh yeah...about that seatbelt thing...I didn't know that...of course, I was in an accident when I was 17, and the seatbelt saved my life.  So I wear mine religiously...

[Buckeye Dale]

Jan 26, 2017 0:16:27 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 25, 2017 23:30:04 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

You do in Florida. I've paid $250 for two infractions in the last year driving a tenth of a mile from my office to a place to buy lunch. Florida uses it as a revenue stream, and a Trooper friend told me there is an unofficial quota they are required to write. The second fine was actually amusing, the FHP Trooper who pulled me over couldn't have been older than 22, and he was actually apologetic. Fastest traffic stop I ever had, probably lasted 2 minutes.

Back on topic, I actually agree with Walt on this one. Waterboarding is not something our country should endorse, even if it is "mild" torture. His understanding on why Japanese war criminals were executed, however, are like many of his other views, rather warped.

Frankly, I was really just quoting John McCain's position. He said it and I repeated it. IMO there is only one person in government qualified to speak on the subject, and I am proud to be on his side of the argument and you should be ashamed if you aren't.

You're eight years too late to follow MehCain...think of the pain you'd have saved yourself.
But I think it's funny for you to use that rationale;  you, whose idea of torture is having to drink instant coffee instead of your fufu late...

[cbisbig]

Jan 25, 2017 21:49:31 GMT -5 Walter said:

Bottom line.. Donald Trump said he favors torture. He didn't say things that might be considered torture. He said he favors torture.
Who agrees with him that this should be US policy? Speak up!

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

[trnyerheadncough]

Jan 26, 2017 7:28:53 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jan 25, 2017 21:49:31 GMT -5 Walter said:

Bottom line.. Donald Trump said he favors torture. He didn't say things that might be considered torture. He said he favors torture.
Who agrees with him that this should be US policy? Speak up!

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

What separates us from them except the rule book?

[Walter]

Jan 26, 2017 7:28:53 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jan 25, 2017 21:49:31 GMT -5 Walter said:

Bottom line.. Donald Trump said he favors torture. He didn't say things that might be considered torture. He said he favors torture.
Who agrees with him that this should be US policy? Speak up!

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

You might want to read what your Constitution has to say on the subject. It's that piece of paper that we've been following for a few hundred years. Whether they deserve it or not, Americans don't go there.

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Jan 26, 2017 8:35:12 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 26, 2017 7:28:53 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

You might want to read what your Constitution has to say on the subject. It's that piece of paper that we've been following for a few hundred years. Whether they deserve it or not, Americans don't go there.

U.S. intelligence agencies say that waterboarding is effective.   You know, those same people you claim Trump has dissed.   Trump has said that he will not order waterboarding, nor shall he forbid it.   Unlike his foolish predecessor, he will leave this decision to those who know more about the issue than HE does.

The Constitution also says no one can lose his life without due process.  Abortion prevents a baby (or his legal representative) from arguing his case for life.  A baby gets no due process, therefore his rights are violated.   But f-word that innocent baby, right Walt?   MURDER the baby, pamper the terrorist!!!!!

You are actually becoming sickening in your support of America's enemies coupled with your disdain for good Americans.

[cbisbig]

Jan 26, 2017 8:35:12 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 26, 2017 7:28:53 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

You might want to read what your Constitution has to say on the subject. It's that piece of paper that we've been following for a few hundred years. Whether they deserve it or not, Americans don't go there.

A radical Muslim claiming allegiance to isis abducts your wife or child and televises their beheading on Facebook wouldn't you want to torture or kill jehadi Johnny?
Yes or no?

[cbisbig]

Jan 26, 2017 8:16:40 GMT -5 trnyerheadncough said:

Jan 26, 2017 7:28:53 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Those radical terrorists who blow up buildings killing dozens or the guys cutting off the heads of innocent journalists certainly deserve to be tortured imo

What separates us from them except the rule book?

And knowing the difference between right and wrong

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Jan 26, 2017 8:44:43 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jan 26, 2017 8:35:12 GMT -5 Walter said:

You might want to read what your Constitution has to say on the subject. It's that piece of paper that we've been following for a few hundred years. Whether they deserve it or not, Americans don't go there.

A radical Muslim claiming allegiance to isis abducts your wife or child and televises their beheading on Facebook wouldn't you want to torture or kill jehadi Johnny?
Yes or no?

I'm starting to like you, Cb.


I already asked Walt if he would approve waterboarding to save his wife's life, but he ducked the question.   Apparently she has no value to him.   That's sad.

[cbisbig]

Jan 26, 2017 8:54:47 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

Jan 26, 2017 8:44:43 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

A radical Muslim claiming allegiance to isis abducts your wife or child and televises their beheading on Facebook wouldn't you want to torture or kill jehadi Johnny?
Yes or no?

I'm starting to like you, Cb.


I already asked Walt if he would approve waterboarding to save his wife's life, but he ducked the question.   Apparently she has no value to him.   That's sad.

If someone pulled that shit on my family I would go John Wick on that ass