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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 7:25:34 GMT -5
As I said, if Urban Meyer wants a home and home with UF, I'd bet it can be arranged. UF gives out 5,000 tickets in a stadium that holds up to 92,000. However, there are always a few scalped tickets that can be had if Gator fans don't beat the bucknuts to them. Putting 87,000 Gators in The Swamp is routine. 87,000 at the shoe is a spring game, when they restrict seating due to construction and such. as was the case this year. Yep... "The largest crowd in stadium history is 110,045, set November 26, 2016, in a game against Michigan. The attendance broke the previous record of 108,975 set the previous year for the game against Michigan State." |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 8:21:21 GMT -5
You can't be referring to BAMA because that would be a false statement. As I posted earlier, BAMA went to Happy Valley in 2010 and Psu returned the favor in 2011. As far as "Jarmonds head", are you suggesting he is making this up? Oh come on...this was a response to et, and I haven't mentioned anyone else. Et threw out that false flag in a BS response. Don't take his bait. PS...WOOPS, I see the cause here. I thought your response to Bam was an et response to bam...sorry. But the 1991 reference is obviously a Gator thing, when they last left the home area to get their butts beat in Syracuse. As far as jarmond, I never heard of the guy before reading this thread. Zero knowledge of him, & as I said, no dates in the links, and you know there was some kind of negotiations going on before the announcement. Alcohol? Mary J? Both? No bait necessary as you responded to cbisbig's post. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 8:25:43 GMT -5
You can't be referring to BAMA because that would be a false statement. As I posted earlier, BAMA went to Happy Valley in 2010 and Psu returned the favor in 2011. As far as "Jarmonds head", are you suggesting he is making this up? Oh come on...this was a response to et, and I haven't mentioned anyone else. Et threw out that false flag in a BS response. Don't take his bait. PS...WOOPS, I see the cause here. I thought your response to Bam was an et response to bam...sorry. But the 1991 reference is obviously a Gator thing, when they last left the home area to get their butts beat in Syracuse. As far as jarmond, I never heard of the guy before reading this thread. Zero knowledge of him, & as I said, no dates in the links, and you know there was some kind of negotiations going on before the announcement. I found an article from The Lantern, the OSU school paper from 2014...I'm going to post some highlights, and the link if anyone is interested in making their own highlights from this... Jarmond’s position doesn’t necessarily require him to be responsible for each of those schedules, though. Instead, he specifically asked to create them when he was hired in 2009 at the athletics administration department. “Quite honestly, I think I probably asked (vice president and athletic director Gene Smith) if I could do that. I think I did,” Jarmond said, a half-smile on his face. “(Football scheduling) was something that was really important to me, that I said I really wanted to do and tackle and help him accomplish the vision he wants to accomplish.” Jarmond played basketball while attending the University of North Carolina-Wilmington. Jarmond said there are many variables and challenges that are presented in creating a football schedule, and he calls planning for the Buckeyes “the process.” It begins with Smith and the desires he spells out for Jarmond. “His (scheduling strategy) that he’s outlined is at least trying to have a top 10-team opponent every year, then a top 25, top 30-type opponent and then maybe a top 50 or what you can attract,” Jarmond said. “It’s mostly about what you can attract.” With his boss sketching the scheduling outline, specifically tailored to feature big-time, out-of-conference opponents, it’s Jarmond’s responsibility to color within the proverbial lines. “The way we do it is from a competitive standpoint,” Jarmond said. “I look at data from the last five years. I try to look at teams, schools, how they’ve done, their coaching, their philosophy, their offense, their defense and that kind of thing.” That research manifests itself in the form of a list of schools that both Jarmond and Smith believe will aptly play the role of an OSU opponent. That list can include a wide array of schools, each of which is put through additional rigors that include the potential national relevance of a future matchup, the effect that a game against that school will have on recruiting and even the institution’s proximity to an OSU fan base. Those factors in turn lead to churning out another list. This list is the one where the next step of the scheduling process begins: the phone calls. It was amidst these phone calls and negotiations that Jarmond said he faced a surprising challenge in his early days as an OSU administrator. Getting opponents to Columbus was a challenge — one he did not expect. “I think — naively — I was probably thinking because we’re Ohio State, it would just be very easy and everybody would want to play us and it would be easy to work things through,” Jarmond said. “It’s not like, ‘Wow, we’d love to come to Columbus in front of 107,000.’ I thought it was going to be that way — it’s not really that way.” And some opponents might not want to spend money traveling to a city where they could potentially lose. The lack of desire to travel to Columbus makes things harder for Jarmond in scheduling opponents, along with the other factors that make it a tough job. thelantern.com/2014/09/meet-martin-jarmond-the-man-behind-football-scheduling/ |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 8:26:55 GMT -5
Oh come on...this was a response to et, and I haven't mentioned anyone else. Et threw out that false flag in a BS response. Don't take his bait. PS...WOOPS, I see the cause here. I thought your response to Bam was an et response to bam...sorry. But the 1991 reference is obviously a Gator thing, when they last left the home area to get their butts beat in Syracuse. As far as jarmond, I never heard of the guy before reading this thread. Zero knowledge of him, & as I said, no dates in the links, and you know there was some kind of negotiations going on before the announcement. Alcohol? Mary J? Both? No bait necessary as you responded to cbisbig's post. LOL...still nothing to say about 1991, I see...Alcohol? MJ? Common Sense (for a change?) |
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 8:42:47 GMT -5
Especially when the gate-split is close to 20k less people... As I said, if Urban Meyer wants a home and home with UF, I'd bet it can be arranged. UF gives out 5,000 tickets in a stadium that holds up to 92,000. However, there are always a few scalped tickets that can be had if Gator fans don't beat the bucknuts to them. Putting 87,000 Gators in The Swamp is routine. you don't know shit on what uf would/wouldn't do. for the one millionith time, uf has been in a unique situation w/fsu and miami growing into football prominence in the last 30 years. but it is mind-boggling that uf hasn't travelled out of florida to play on a ooc road stadium in over a quarter century. that is unique for a successful d-1 program, it's unique amongst the powers of the sec. you keep yippin like a chihuahua about osu not playing the sec or fsu like osu fans don't know it or care about it. you can take your sanctimony and stick it up your sphincter. osu hasn't played the sec since lsu in '87/'88, but that's exactly one more sec power that osu's played on the road than uf re big 10. you harp about fsu not getting osu at home like its a fault. well you take that sanctimonious crap and stick it in the same place. fsu agreed to travel to columbus twice because 1. ohio stadium was nearly twice the size of doak campbell at the time, and it made financial sense, and 2. because bobby bowden was trying to put his program on the map and going on the road, at the time, to play the big boys, was the way to do it. it worked. the noles got not just one but two wins, and that philosophy helped fsu get on the top shelf of cfb in the 90's beyond. so, in the last 35 years, tosu has played.... lsu home/home (won multiple national titles) fsu twice in columbus (won multiple national titles) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) at colorado (shared a national title) at washington (shared a national title) alabama-neutral site (i think they've won a couple) wvu home/home (played for a national title) oregon (played for a national title) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) syracuse home/home (they were 10-2 the year osu beat them in ny state in '92, the year after uf played there) washington 2 home/1 away (shared a national title) notre dame home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl neutral (won multiple national titles) texas home/home (won a national title and played for another) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl home/home (won multiple national titles) virgina tech home/home (played for a national title) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) that list doesn't include series w/ucla, arizona, nc state, nor does it include the upcoming ooc foes, but the above shows the pedigree of programs across the board. over a dozen different schools who've either won titles in the last generation or played for one. the alma mater has its shared of faults, but ducking historically strong ooc competition, and playing them in their house, is not one of them. you are, on this subject, full of shit saying otherwise. 1991 |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 8:48:14 GMT -5
Alcohol? Mary J? Both? No bait necessary as you responded to cbisbig's post. LOL...still nothing to say about 1991, I see...Alcohol? MJ? Common Sense (for a change?) Since you have problems keeping up today, read my posts on page 2. I addressed 1991 already. You don't get a private discussion so pay better attention. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 4, 2017 8:53:10 GMT -5
Since you have problems keeping up today, read my posts on page 2. I addressed 1991 already. You don't get a private discussion so pay better attention. LOL...while you were ranting about your johnny come lately program and cherry picked numbers that ignore nearly a century of CFB, I was doing research about your bogus proclamation...you can see that just a couple posts above this latest rant. |
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Post by bamorin on May 4, 2017 9:04:29 GMT -5
“I think — naively — I was probably thinking because we’re Ohio State, it would just be very easy and everybody would want to play us and it would be easy to work things through,” Jarmond said. “It’s not like, ‘Wow, we’d love to come to Columbus in front of 107,000.’ I thought it was going to be that way — it’s not really that way.” And some opponents might not want to spend money traveling to a city where they could potentially lose. The lack of desire to travel to Columbus makes things harder for Jarmond in scheduling opponents, along with the other factors that make it a tough job. Read more: aolcfboutcasts.proboards.com/thread/29089/why-ohio-dosnt-schedule-games?page=3#ixzz4g7Oj3VY3Gee, didn't have trouble scheduling Texas 05 (national title year) to come to columbus. Didn't have trouble scheduling USC to come to Columbus, Washington, or Wash St, or Miami, or Oklahoma, or Texas Tech, or a host of others. the only conference who won't schedule a game in Ohio Stadium is the sEC. with the exception of LSU that is..........they got balls. |
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As I said, if Urban Meyer wants a home and home with UF, I'd bet it can be arranged. UF gives out 5,000 tickets in a stadium that holds up to 92,000. However, there are always a few scalped tickets that can be had if Gator fans don't beat the bucknuts to them. Putting 87,000 Gators in The Swamp is routine. you don't know shit on what uf would/wouldn't do. for the one millionith time, uf has been in a unique situation w/fsu and miami growing into football prominence in the last 30 years. but it is mind-boggling that uf hasn't travelled out of florida to play on a ooc road stadium in over a quarter century. that is unique for a successful d-1 program, it's unique amongst the powers of the sec. you keep yippin like a chihuahua about osu not playing the sec or fsu like osu fans don't know it or care about it. you can take your sanctimony and stick it up your sphincter. osu hasn't played the sec since lsu in '87/'88, but that's exactly one more sec power that osu's played on the road than uf re big 10. you harp about fsu not getting osu at home like its a fault. well you take that sanctimonious crap and stick it in the same place. fsu agreed to travel to columbus twice because 1. ohio stadium was nearly twice the size of doak campbell at the time, and it made financial sense, and 2. because bobby bowden was trying to put his program on the map and going on the road, at the time, to play the big boys, was the way to do it. it worked. the noles got not just one but two wins, and that philosophy helped fsu get on the top shelf of cfb in the 90's beyond. so, in the last 35 years, tosu has played.... lsu home/home (won multiple national titles) fsu twice in columbus (won multiple national titles) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) at colorado (shared a national title) at washington (shared a national title) alabama-neutral site (i think they've won a couple) wvu home/home (played for a national title) oregon (played for a national title) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) syracuse home/home (they were 10-2 the year osu beat them in ny state in '92, the year after uf played there) washington 2 home/1 away (shared a national title) notre dame home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl neutral (won multiple national titles) texas home/home (won a national title and played for another) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl home/home (won multiple national titles) virgina tech home/home (played for a national title) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) that list doesn't include series w/ucla, arizona, nc state, nor does it include the upcoming ooc foes, but the above shows the pedigree of programs across the board. over a dozen different schools who've either won titles in the last generation or played for one. the alma mater has its shared of faults, but ducking historically strong ooc competition, and playing them in their house, is not one of them. you are, on this subject, full of shit saying otherwise. 1991 You should update your talking points. FSU and Miami came into national prominence 40 years ago, not 30. tOSU doesn't travel anywhere to play anybody as you bucknuts have claimed. Even if tOSU did, you'd need to schedule an FSU caliber program every year to keep up with UF which they do not do. Until tOSU schedules and plays top tier SEC and FSU, I'll not be impressed with the other hand culled programs tOSU identifies that they will beat along with the occasional OUs that they might beat. There's a Shania Twain song lyric that is appropriate, "that doesn't impress me much." The people that are full of shit here are you bucknuts. |
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you don't know shit on what uf would/wouldn't do. for the one millionith time, uf has been in a unique situation w/fsu and miami growing into football prominence in the last 30 years. but it is mind-boggling that uf hasn't travelled out of florida to play on a ooc road stadium in over a quarter century. that is unique for a successful d-1 program, it's unique amongst the powers of the sec. you keep yippin like a chihuahua about osu not playing the sec or fsu like osu fans don't know it or care about it. you can take your sanctimony and stick it up your sphincter. osu hasn't played the sec since lsu in '87/'88, but that's exactly one more sec power that osu's played on the road than uf re big 10. you harp about fsu not getting osu at home like its a fault. well you take that sanctimonious crap and stick it in the same place. fsu agreed to travel to columbus twice because 1. ohio stadium was nearly twice the size of doak campbell at the time, and it made financial sense, and 2. because bobby bowden was trying to put his program on the map and going on the road, at the time, to play the big boys, was the way to do it. it worked. the noles got not just one but two wins, and that philosophy helped fsu get on the top shelf of cfb in the 90's beyond. so, in the last 35 years, tosu has played.... lsu home/home (won multiple national titles) fsu twice in columbus (won multiple national titles) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) at colorado (shared a national title) at washington (shared a national title) alabama-neutral site (i think they've won a couple) wvu home/home (played for a national title) oregon (played for a national title) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) syracuse home/home (they were 10-2 the year osu beat them in ny state in '92, the year after uf played there) washington 2 home/1 away (shared a national title) notre dame home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl neutral (won multiple national titles) texas home/home (won a national title and played for another) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl home/home (won multiple national titles) virgina tech home/home (played for a national title) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) that list doesn't include series w/ucla, arizona, nc state, nor does it include the upcoming ooc foes, but the above shows the pedigree of programs across the board. over a dozen different schools who've either won titles in the last generation or played for one. the alma mater has its shared of faults, but ducking historically strong ooc competition, and playing them in their house, is not one of them. you are, on this subject, full of shit saying otherwise. 1991 You should update your talking points. FSU and Miami came into national prominence 40 years ago, not 30. tOSU doesn't travel anywhere to play anybody as you bucknuts have claimed. Even if tOSU did, you'd need to schedule an FSU caliber program every year to keep up with UF which they do not do. Until tOSU schedules and plays top tier SEC and FSU, I'll not be impressed with the other hand culled programs tOSU identifies that they will beat along with the occasional OUs that they might beat. There's a Shania Twain song lyric that is appropriate, "that doesn't impress me much." The people that are full of shit here are you bucknuts. ET God you're such a pathetic ass hole. Ohio St has traveled to USC, Miami, Oklahoma, Washington, Virginia Tech, Texas all within the last 12 years. Are you really sitting there and saying those teams are all nobodies from no where |
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 9:24:24 GMT -5
you don't know shit on what uf would/wouldn't do. for the one millionith time, uf has been in a unique situation w/fsu and miami growing into football prominence in the last 30 years. but it is mind-boggling that uf hasn't travelled out of florida to play on a ooc road stadium in over a quarter century. that is unique for a successful d-1 program, it's unique amongst the powers of the sec. you keep yippin like a chihuahua about osu not playing the sec or fsu like osu fans don't know it or care about it. you can take your sanctimony and stick it up your sphincter. osu hasn't played the sec since lsu in '87/'88, but that's exactly one more sec power that osu's played on the road than uf re big 10. you harp about fsu not getting osu at home like its a fault. well you take that sanctimonious crap and stick it in the same place. fsu agreed to travel to columbus twice because 1. ohio stadium was nearly twice the size of doak campbell at the time, and it made financial sense, and 2. because bobby bowden was trying to put his program on the map and going on the road, at the time, to play the big boys, was the way to do it. it worked. the noles got not just one but two wins, and that philosophy helped fsu get on the top shelf of cfb in the 90's beyond. so, in the last 35 years, tosu has played.... lsu home/home (won multiple national titles) fsu twice in columbus (won multiple national titles) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) at colorado (shared a national title) at washington (shared a national title) alabama-neutral site (i think they've won a couple) wvu home/home (played for a national title) oregon (played for a national title) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) syracuse home/home (they were 10-2 the year osu beat them in ny state in '92, the year after uf played there) washington 2 home/1 away (shared a national title) notre dame home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl neutral (won multiple national titles) texas home/home (won a national title and played for another) usc home/home (won multiple national titles) miami fl home/home (won multiple national titles) virgina tech home/home (played for a national title) at oklahoma (won multiple national titles) that list doesn't include series w/ucla, arizona, nc state, nor does it include the upcoming ooc foes, but the above shows the pedigree of programs across the board. over a dozen different schools who've either won titles in the last generation or played for one. the alma mater has its shared of faults, but ducking historically strong ooc competition, and playing them in their house, is not one of them. you are, on this subject, full of shit saying otherwise. 1991 You should update your talking points. FSU and Miami came into national prominence 40 years ago, not 30. tOSU doesn't travel anywhere to play anybody as you bucknuts have claimed. Even if tOSU did, you'd need to schedule an FSU caliber program every year to keep up with UF which they do not do. Until tOSU schedules and plays top tier SEC and FSU, I'll not be impressed with the other hand culled programs tOSU identifies that they will beat along with the occasional OUs that they might beat. There's a Shania Twain song lyric that is appropriate, "that doesn't impress me much." The people that are full of shit here are you bucknuts. miami came into prominence 40 years ago? you mean like in '77? well did they did play tosu in columbus in the season opener my freshman year sept '77, so i could take your word for it as gospel that miami became prominent in a year the canes went 3-8, but i'd rather be truthful. did you mean '78? 6-5. '79? 5-6. miami got good in the 80s, and won a title in '83. 34 years ago. so you're wrong there. noles? they actually went 10-2 in '77, 11-1 in '79, 10-2 in '80, so unlike you i'll give you partial credit on that one. 45-23-3 over the next 6 years wasn't exactly elite... that's almost 4 losses/year. but in '87 fsu went 11-1 and truly landed on the top shelf to stay... 30 years ago. you were saying re talking points? you should update your playlist... shania's best days are behind her. lol. 1991 |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 9:27:33 GMT -5
The 4th horseman has arrived. I've now gone from being called full of shit to pathetic asshole and I didn't even start this thread. (chuckle)
Mike the Younger, I've made myself clear. Don't expect me to change my perception of tOSU until they schedule and play top tier SEC and FSU. Given the scheduling preferences in Columbus, that has as much of a chance of happening as a snowballs chance in hell.
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Post by beuycek on May 4, 2017 9:31:33 GMT -5
Another pissing match, cool. For the record, I would love to play an SEC team every year if we could. If what he says is true, saying it is Ohio State's decision alone makes no sense given the large alumni bases and regular recruiting trips made to SEC states. That brings into play the "two to tango" comment that seems to be ignored here in this thread. Look no further than the state of Florida where we have a huge alumni base and recruit heavily year in and year out. That nixes those two reasons leaving only the "two to tango" comment as to why the Buckeyes and Gators aren't playing a home and home. And yes, I fully expect that to fall on deaf ears... The two to tango comment was by the writer of the article, not Jarmond. The quotes by Jarmond don't give any reason to think it's a two to tango situation. tOSU's scheduling is a one-way commitment to play games anywhere except top tier SEC and FSU. Just a hunch, if Urban Meyer wanted a season opening game, TCU is just another likely win for the tOSU, or home and home with top tier SEC or FSU, he can have it. With that said, I'll believe it when I see it. It does take two to tango. It's clear tOSU has no intention to dance the tango. Ok, riddle me this... if what this guy says is true, why haven't we scheduled games with Florida, Georgia and A&M? It's an honest question to your point that the author mentioned it taking two to tango not Jarmond. Either the guy is lying and that isn't their philosophy or there is another reason those games aren't on the schedule because we recruit heavily in those three states and our alumni base is quite large, especially in Texas and Florida. I am not trying to argue or be an ass but his statement seems to fall apart when you consider the three teams I just mentioned, doesn't it? |
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The two to tango comment was by the writer of the article, not Jarmond. The quotes by Jarmond don't give any reason to think it's a two to tango situation. tOSU's scheduling is a one-way commitment to play games anywhere except top tier SEC and FSU. Just a hunch, if Urban Meyer wanted a season opening game, TCU is just another likely win for the tOSU, or home and home with top tier SEC or FSU, he can have it. With that said, I'll believe it when I see it. It does take two to tango. It's clear tOSU has no intention to dance the tango. Ok, riddle me this... if what this guy says is true, why haven't we scheduled games with Florida, Georgia and A&M? It's an honest question to your point that the author mentioned it taking two to tango not Jarmond. Either the guy is lying and that isn't their philosophy or there is another reason those games aren't on the schedule because we recruit heavily in those three states and our alumni base is quite large, especially in Texas and Florida. I am not trying to argue or be an ass but his statement seems to fall apart when you consider the three teams I just mentioned, doesn't it? I can't answer the question. However, an email to Gene Smith may get you an answer. I'd be interested in seeing what he has to say.......... |
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Post by mscott59 on May 4, 2017 9:43:42 GMT -5
The two to tango comment was by the writer of the article, not Jarmond. The quotes by Jarmond don't give any reason to think it's a two to tango situation. tOSU's scheduling is a one-way commitment to play games anywhere except top tier SEC and FSU. Just a hunch, if Urban Meyer wanted a season opening game, TCU is just another likely win for the tOSU, or home and home with top tier SEC or FSU, he can have it. With that said, I'll believe it when I see it. It does take two to tango. It's clear tOSU has no intention to dance the tango. Ok, riddle me this... if what this guy says is true, why haven't we scheduled games with Florida, Georgia and A&M? It's an honest question to your point that the author mentioned it taking two to tango not Jarmond. Either the guy is lying and that isn't their philosophy or there is another reason those games aren't on the schedule because we recruit heavily in those three states and our alumni base is quite large, especially in Texas and Florida. I am not trying to argue or be an ass but his statement seems to fall apart when you consider the three teams I just mentioned, doesn't it? we haven't scheduled the aggies, but there is the texas series in '05-'06 and the one on the books for '22-'23. osu and uga had an agreement but no contract to schedule a home/home for '20-'21, but when the big 10 and pac 12 agreed in '12 to start a series of ooc's between those 2 leagues, osu contact uga and said they needed to back out. florida? to be honest i think uf has little desire to invite any big time ooc programs outside the state to gain a greater foothold on recruiting exposure in florida. you know, takes two to tango?  |
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