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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 23:25:11 GMT -5
Other people might have stories like this, but I bet none as BAD.
When I was just getting started in my police career (early 80's) I carried my personally owned 4" S&W model 19 which had served me well, including getting me to 299/300 at the academy. Accurate as hell with an action as smooth as silk. Somewhere along the way, another cop was carrying HIS personal 4" Colt Python, but he took a shine to my Model 19. He asked me to do a straight up swap, and I agreed, having never owned a Colt revolver in my life.
Nice gun, good action, great finish -- nothing wrong with it.
So I started reading up on my new acquisition, and the magazine "experts" all said that the Python was an excellent target gun, but too finely fitted to be a reliable police service gun. I believed the opinion of these "experts," and talked the guy into trading me back my 19.
I never really thought that much about it after that until later on, when I saw the amazing prices that Colt Pythons were demanding on the market. I could have sold the Python and bought THREE Model 19's.
KICK ME.
FTR, I think a 4 or 6" Colt Python is the prettiest DA revolver ever made.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 7:04:06 GMT -5
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Post by roxalot on Jun 11, 2017 11:15:09 GMT -5
I own a Ruger 'security Six' ( SS ) that I love as far as shooting at the range with. A little bulky for CC but one nice weapon to shoot. Not as pricey as the Python or the S and W but still a nice pistol. Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:44:14 GMT -5
I own a Ruger 'security Six' ( SS ) that I love as far as shooting at the range with. A little bulky for CC but one nice weapon to shoot. Not as pricey as the Python or the S and W but still a nice pistol. Love it.
The Ruger's weakness is its trigger --- not up to Colt or S&W triggers, but for general use perfectly OK. Mine was plenty accurate.
The REALLY GOOD news about these guns is that you can still buy them at reasonable prices, unlike Colt and S&W, who think their pistols are made of gold or something. The new Smiths are not pretty either, since the cylinder latch has been reshaped to accommodate a Clinton key. I will never buy a new S&W.
Concealability? The SS's cylinder is 1.5" in diameter, within concealable range. For comparison, a standard 1911 ---- one of the most easily concealed full power handguns ----- is .92" W at the slide, and an average grip is 1.3" wide.
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Post by roxalot on Jun 11, 2017 21:52:51 GMT -5
I own a Ruger 'security Six' ( SS ) that I love as far as shooting at the range with. A little bulky for CC but one nice weapon to shoot. Not as pricey as the Python or the S and W but still a nice pistol. Love it.
The Ruger's weakness is its trigger --- not up to Colt or S&W triggers, but for general use perfectly OK. Mine was plenty accurate.
The REALLY GOOD news about these guns is that you can still buy them at reasonable prices, unlike Colt and S&W, who think their pistols are made of gold or something. The new Smiths are not pretty either, since the cylinder latch has been reshaped to accommodate a Clinton key. I will never buy a new S&W.
Concealability? The SS's cylinder is 1.5" in diameter, within concealable range. For comparison, a standard 1911 ---- one of the most easily concealed full power handguns ----- is .92" W at the slide, and an average grip is 1.3" wide.
IMHO, you have a great little gun that will outlive you for sure, with reasonable care.I've seen a lot of bank guards and hospital security staff that carry the security six. Seems to be the weapon of choice for more than most of them. Don't really know why. Of course they don't have to think about concealed carry as they all carry the gun in a holster. You're right, it's a great gun but imho, not so little. It makes a great vehicle or home weapon but to me, it's a little much for cc. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 23:34:50 GMT -5
I like those Ruger wheel guns. They're built like a brick shithouse.
As far as my sad stories, I don't have any. Every gun I've ever owned I still own, although deep water retrieval costs are prohibitive.
One of my best buddies (now deceased) fell on hard times many years ago and was forced to sell both his beloved Gold Cup AND his 6" Python. I cannot even fathom that loss...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 8:08:22 GMT -5
I owned a blued 4" Security Six for a while, and I really liked it. Ruger revolvers are built like tanks, and if you can get past their ugliness (IMHO) they are great. Being built with no sideplate makes the frame exceptionally strong. I personally could never fall in love with it because it is not pretty like a Smith or a Colt.
The Ruger's weakness is its trigger --- not up to Colt or S&W triggers, but for general use perfectly OK. Mine was plenty accurate.
The REALLY GOOD news about these guns is that you can still buy them at reasonable prices, unlike Colt and S&W, who think their pistols are made of gold or something. The new Smiths are not pretty either, since the cylinder latch has been reshaped to accommodate a Clinton key. I will never buy a new S&W.
Concealability? The SS's cylinder is 1.5" in diameter, within concealable range. For comparison, a standard 1911 ---- one of the most easily concealed full power handguns ----- is .92" W at the slide, and an average grip is 1.3" wide.
IMHO, you have a great little gun that will outlive you for sure, with reasonable care. I've seen a lot of bank guards and hospital security staff that carry the security six. Seems to be the weapon of choice for more than most of them. Don't really know why. Of course they don't have to think about concealed carry as they all carry the gun in a holster. You're right, it's a great gun but imho, not so little. It makes a great vehicle or home weapon but to me, it's a little much for cc. A lot of non-cop security officers have to buy their own guns. Rugers cost less and are still best quality. The Security Six series is no bigger than a S&W K frame, and its cylinder is 0.14" wider than the cylinder of my Colt Agent, which I concealed OWB easily. The cylinder of my K frame Model 64 is only .0.07 smaller. Carry that thing!!!  |
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Post by daleko on Jun 12, 2017 16:59:12 GMT -5
Other people might have stories like this, but I bet none as BAD. When I was just getting started in my police career (early 80's) I carried my personally owned 4" S&W model 19 which had served me well, including getting me to 299/300 at the academy. Accurate as hell with an action as smooth as silk. Somewhere along the way, another cop was carrying HIS personal 4" Colt Python, but he took a shine to my Model 19. He asked me to do a straight up swap, and I agreed, having never owned a Colt revolver in my life.
Nice gun, good action, great finish -- nothing wrong with it.
So I started reading up on my new acquisition, and the magazine "experts" all said that the Python was an excellent target gun, but too finely fitted to be a reliable police service gun. I believed the opinion of these "experts," and talked the guy into trading me back my 19.
I never really thought that much about it after that until later on, when I saw the amazing prices that Colt Pythons were demanding on the market. I could have sold the Python and bought THREE Model 19's.
KICK ME.
FTR, I think a 4 or 6" Colt Python is the prettiest DA revolver ever made. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 17:35:10 GMT -5
Other people might have stories like this, but I bet none as BAD. When I was just getting started in my police career (early 80's) I carried my personally owned 4" S&W model 19 which had served me well, including getting me to 299/300 at the academy. Accurate as hell with an action as smooth as silk. Somewhere along the way, another cop was carrying HIS personal 4" Colt Python, but he took a shine to my Model 19. He asked me to do a straight up swap, and I agreed, having never owned a Colt revolver in my life.
Nice gun, good action, great finish -- nothing wrong with it.
So I started reading up on my new acquisition, and the magazine "experts" all said that the Python was an excellent target gun, but too finely fitted to be a reliable police service gun. I believed the opinion of these "experts," and talked the guy into trading me back my 19.
I never really thought that much about it after that until later on, when I saw the amazing prices that Colt Pythons were demanding on the market. I could have sold the Python and bought THREE Model 19's.
KICK ME.
FTR, I think a 4 or 6" Colt Python is the prettiest DA revolver ever made.
An ancient New Service that is still in good condition might have a better action than all of them. |
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Post by roxalot on Jun 12, 2017 20:26:27 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of bank guards and hospital security staff that carry the security six. Seems to be the weapon of choice for more than most of them. Don't really know why. Of course they don't have to think about concealed carry as they all carry the gun in a holster. You're right, it's a great gun but imho, not so little. It makes a great vehicle or home weapon but to me, it's a little much for cc. A lot of non-cop security officers have to buy their own guns. Rugers cost less and are still best quality. The Security Six series is no bigger than a S&W K frame, and its cylinder is 0.14" wider than the cylinder of my Colt Agent, which I concealed OWB easily. The cylinder of my K frame Model 64 is only .0.07 smaller. Carry that thing!!! Not gonna do it. The g19 is half the weight with 10 more shots... ( if needed ) can't go wrong with a Ruger but ya definitely can't go wrong with a Glock. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 21:17:43 GMT -5
A lot of non-cop security officers have to buy their own guns. Rugers cost less and are still best quality. The Security Six series is no bigger than a S&W K frame, and its cylinder is 0.14" wider than the cylinder of my Colt Agent, which I concealed OWB easily. The cylinder of my K frame Model 64 is only .0.07 smaller. Carry that thing!!! Not gonna do it. The g19 is half the weight with 10 more shots... ( if needed ) can't go wrong with a Ruger but ya definitely can't go wrong with a Glock.
My problem with revolvers is the same as yours ---- they have only 6 shots. What's good about the Glock over most semiautos is that it operates exactly like a revolver. Just point and pull the trigger. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 21:29:57 GMT -5
Not gonna do it. The g19 is half the weight with 10 more shots... ( if needed ) can't go wrong with a Ruger but ya definitely can't go wrong with a Glock.
My problem with revolvers is the same as yours ---- they have only 6 shots. What's good about the Glock over most semiautos is that it operates exactly like a revolver. Just point and pull the trigger.Yeah, and that Glock cylinder can never jamb or spew empty casings as evidence... |
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Post by roxalot on Jun 12, 2017 21:53:19 GMT -5
Oh I agree with you. I'm just saying carry the Ruger if the G19 isn't available.
My problem with revolvers is the same as yours ---- they have only 6 shots. What's good about the Glock over most semiautos is that it operates exactly like a revolver. Just point and pull the trigger. Yeah, and that Glock cylinder can never jamb or spew empty casings as evidence... Why would a law abiding citizen be concerned with evidence..?.. God forbid I ever actually have to use my weapon to defend myself or a loved one, but if I do, I won't be concerned with 'spewing evidence.' I have owned and shot a glock for many years now and NEVER had one jam... never. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 21:56:08 GMT -5
Yeah, and that Glock cylinder can never jamb or spew empty casings as evidence... Why would a law abiding citizen be concerned with evidence..?.. God forbid I ever actually have to use my weapon to defend myself or a loved one, but if I do, I won't be concerned with 'spewing evidence.' I have owned and shot a glock for many years now and NEVER had one jam... never. Just quoting Prof. Mutt, Gunologist. |
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