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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 19:25:30 GMT -5
It's an honest question If God came to you and said he would end all violence and not a single person would be killed under the condition you have to give up guns, all guns. What would you do Would God also take all illegally owned guns from criminals?Yep
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Post by roxalot on Feb 15, 2018 21:33:26 GMT -5
Not worth trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. It's an honest question If God came to you and said he would end all violence and not a single person would be killed under the condition you have to give up guns, all guns. What would you do God doesn't exist..remember..?..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 21:43:02 GMT -5
It's an honest question If God came to you and said he would end all violence and not a single person would be killed under the condition you have to give up guns, all guns. What would you do God doesn't exist..remember..?.. True
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Post by roxalot on Feb 15, 2018 22:09:26 GMT -5
God doesn't exist..remember..?.. True So why be not only a clueless atheist, but a hypocrite also..?.. oh, you're a liberal. never mind. That's how you people roll.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 22:40:52 GMT -5
So why be not only a clueless atheist, but a hypocrite also..?.. oh, you're a liberal. never mind. That's how you people roll. How am I a hypocrite? I asked a question of someone who does believe in God, what would they do. Just because I think God either doesn't exist or is pure evil doesn't mean I can't ask a hypothetical question
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Post by Walter on Feb 15, 2018 23:22:51 GMT -5
If CWG's hypothetheses became true, I would see no problem with no gun laws and no limits on their ownership. And that is for a simple reason. Guns would no longer be a utensil designed for the sole purpose of killing other humans. However, as long as that is nearly the sole reason for their existence, it demonstrates why they are not the same as dishes and copiers, and why they require greater control of their prolferation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 23:40:46 GMT -5
If CWG's hypothetheses became true, I would see no problem with no gun laws and no limits on their ownership. And that is for a simple reason. Guns would no longer be a utensil designed for the sole purpose of killing other humans. However, as long as that is nearly the sole reason for their existence, it demonstrates why they are not the same as dishes and copiers, and why they require greater control of their prolferation. Guns were NEVER designed to be used as murder weapons. Citizen ownership was/is envisioned as a means for EVERY PERSON to have the same opportunity to defend himself. MOST guns owned by the majority of gun owners are NEVER used in a criminal way. The owner of a gun that is stolen is NOT responsible for the acts of the thief, or whoever now has possession of a gun stolen from its rightful owner.
A gun is a machine, a tool ---and some truly ARE works of art and skilled craftsmanship. A gun is neither evil nor beneficial. It is a tool that can be USED for good or evil. It is the person who uses the gun who is evil or beneficial.
You see the problem here? You lieberals want to give human traits to inanimate objects. That is impossible. I can build a garden with a shovel and a rake. Or I can kill you with that shovel and rake, The ACTION comes from the individual who is controlling the weapon or tool. NO ONE ELSE. There is no Constitutionally accepted law that can be written to STOP violence with the use of guns. A law tells us what to do, but the author of that same law expects it to be broken. That's why there are penalty sections of every law that deals with violence.
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Post by Walter on Feb 16, 2018 0:02:00 GMT -5
You are making an argument that undercuts any reason to prosecute, for instance, drug dealers. Drug dealers do not force anyone to take the drugs they sell. The drug is an object that cannot do anything by itself, just as a gun. It sits there in a bag on the shelf, innocent of any harm to anyone. So why is a seller of such a thing wrong for selling it?
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Post by roxalot on Feb 16, 2018 6:21:19 GMT -5
So why be not only a clueless atheist, but a hypocrite also..?.. oh, you're a liberal. never mind. That's how you people roll. How am I a hypocrite? I asked a question of someone who does believe in God, what would they do. Just because I think God either doesn't exist or is pure evil doesn't mean I can't ask a hypothetical question So which is it..?.. Doesn't exist or is evil, comparable to the liberal's leader, satan..?.. and if it's the latter, does that mean you'll have to turn in your liberal\atheist card..?..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 6:26:38 GMT -5
How am I a hypocrite? I asked a question of someone who does believe in God, what would they do. Just because I think God either doesn't exist or is pure evil doesn't mean I can't ask a hypothetical question So which is it..?.. Doesn't exist or is evil, comparable to the liberal's leader, satan..?.. and if it's the latter, does that mean you'll have to turn in your liberal\atheist card..?.. As I've said several times with my experiences in life and things I've witnessed I've come to 2 conclusions. God either doesn't exist or God is a narcissistic dick head who gets off on idiots worshipping him when he does nothing for them. I have picked the doesn't exist choice. But when I see things like what happened in Florida I sit back and wonder if I picked the right choice I've been hearing a ton of people say they pray things like the shooting in florida never happen. They happen all the damn time. So either you're praying to something that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit.
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Post by roxalot on Feb 16, 2018 6:29:14 GMT -5
Would God also take all illegally owned guns from criminals? Yep How about baseball bats, all blunt objects, knives, for that matter, ANYTHING that can used as a weapon... would he take all that too..?.. A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it.
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Post by roxalot on Feb 16, 2018 6:31:02 GMT -5
So which is it..?.. Doesn't exist or is evil, comparable to the liberal's leader, satan..?.. and if it's the latter, does that mean you'll have to turn in your liberal\atheist card..?.. As I've said several times with my experiences in life and things I've witnessed I've come to 2 conclusions. God either doesn't exist or God is a narcissistic dick head who gets off on idiots worshipping him when he does nothing for them. I have picked the doesn't exist choice. But when I see things like what happened in Florida I sit back and wonder if I picked the right choice I've been hearing a ton of people say they pray things like the shooting in florida never happen. They happen all the damn time. So either you're praying to something that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit. I hope and pray I'll never have to use my weapon for self defense. So far, so good.
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Post by roxalot on Feb 16, 2018 6:32:43 GMT -5
As I've said several times with my experiences in life and things I've witnessed I've come to 2 conclusions. God either doesn't exist or God is a narcissistic dick head who gets off on idiots worshipping him when he does nothing for them. I have picked the doesn't exist choice. But when I see things like what happened in Florida I sit back and wonder if I picked the right choice I've been hearing a ton of people say they pray things like the shooting in florida never happen. They happen all the damn time. So either you're praying to something that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit. I hope and pray I'll never have to use my weapon for self defense. So far, so good. Ar least you get to keep your liberal atheist card. “Begin each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill-will, and selfishness – all of them due to the offenders’ ignorance of what is good or evil.” ― Marcus Aurelius
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Post by bamorin on Feb 16, 2018 6:32:54 GMT -5
You are making an argument that undercuts any reason to prosecute, for instance, drug dealers. we don't, that is unless they don't have a license to do so. And, are dispensing drugs that are illegal to dispense in any manor. Other than that, they are called pharmacists.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 6:33:27 GMT -5
As I've said several times with my experiences in life and things I've witnessed I've come to 2 conclusions. God either doesn't exist or God is a narcissistic dick head who gets off on idiots worshipping him when he does nothing for them. I have picked the doesn't exist choice. But when I see things like what happened in Florida I sit back and wonder if I picked the right choice I've been hearing a ton of people say they pray things like the shooting in florida never happen. They happen all the damn time. So either you're praying to something that doesn't exist or doesn't give a shit. I hope and pray I'll never have to use my weapon for self defense. So far, so good. I've also prayed that I won't be attacked by a T-Rex. So far so good. Guess there is a God
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