Broke My Right Clavicle

[canefan]

Apr 12, 2020 10:45:25 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Apr 11, 2020 16:28:57 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

I'm 63.

I've been skating laps out there for 30 years, and never had a serious crash.

This was a weird one.  Something stopped my left skate cold at 12-13 mph.

I rotated counter- clockwise and pitched forward with a shoulder roll on the pavement.

If I had been wearing shoulder pads and landed on turf, it would have been a routine play.

Roller skating to the Village People isnt what it used to be___get healed and get well soon--------at the Y . M. C. A.!!!

I bet he was fabulous. <g>

[AlaCowboy]

Apr 11, 2020 20:57:03 GMT -5 canefan said:

Apr 11, 2020 17:07:01 GMT -5 daleko said:

Got it. Sorry to hear you are injured. Now I'm gonna tell you what my kid recently said to me about a physical behavior. Climbing a two story ladder to put down a cpl of nails. "Pops, you aren't 32 anymore. That was 40 yrs ago. In your case 30.   He promptly monkeyed up the ladder and was down in under 5 minutes.

Man I can't get that through my 67 yo wife's head. My legs are so bad I cant lift either up to even try to go up a ladder. But instead of calling any of our 30 something kids she is all the time pulling the ladder out and up she goes. Usually lately all the smoke alarm backup batteries are running out and we have 10-12 foot ceilings. So up she goes and I hold the ladder and hope to catch her should she fall.

My Sweetheart has been doing the ladder climbing the last few months with my bad knee and the surgery. I hold the ladder and tell her to yell if she slips so I can get out of the way. She is not amused.

[canefan]

Apr 12, 2020 23:17:48 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Apr 11, 2020 20:57:03 GMT -5 canefan said:

Man I can't get that through my 67 yo wife's head. My legs are so bad I cant lift either up to even try to go up a ladder. But instead of calling any of our 30 something kids she is all the time pulling the ladder out and up she goes. Usually lately all the smoke alarm backup batteries are running out and we have 10-12 foot ceilings. So up she goes and I hold the ladder and hope to catch her should she fall.

My Sweetheart has been doing the ladder climbing the last few months with my bad knee and the surgery. I hold the ladder and tell her to yell if she slips so I can get out of the way. She is not amused.

LOL!! You sound as compassionate as my buddy who was my flight instructor. The day he decided I was to solo the first time he didn't tell me anything. When we landed instead of going to our normal parking spot he told me to taxi up to the tower. He proceeded to climb out and told me I was going to shoot a couple of touch and goes on my own, but first he wanted to gather up all of his stuff just in case I crashed and burned. That was bad enough but then in my run up somehow when I checked the mags, there are two, you switch one off, power up, switch it back on and repeat with the other. Somehow I forgot to turn the last back on. So as I'm accelerating down the runway I'm waiting and waiting to rotate but I hear a little sputtering. I'm thinking I should have a shorter run without 180 pounds sitting next to me. Suddenly I look and see the one mag turned off, switch it on and literally leap into the air.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Next chapter in the saga of my sordid 35 year love affair with America's vulture capitalist health insurance industry...

I never get sick, but  I had to find an in- network orthopod to fix my broken clavicle.

Found the guy i was looking for and saw him at 10 AM today.

He scheduled the surgery for tomorrow at a suburban center that is still open. (No general anesthesia because of COVID.) HOORAH!

Then the surgery center calls me this afternoon.  They are not covered by my insurance.

[AlaCowboy]

Apr 13, 2020 19:13:59 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Next chapter in the saga of my sordid 35 year love affair with America's vulture capitalist health insurance industry...

I never get sick, but  I had to find an in- network orthopod to fix my broken clavicle.

Found the guy i was looking for and saw him at 10 AM today.

He scheduled the surgery for tomorrow at a suburban center that is still open. (No general anesthesia because of COVID.) HOORAH!

Then the surgery center calls me this afternoon.  They are not covered by my insurance.

That is the fault of the surgery center, not the insurance company. My Medicare Supplement policy is actually with Huntsville Hospital here. Huntsville Hospital owns about seven hospitals in the five county North Alabama area and I can go to any one of them. If the HH network can't treat my problem I can go to any hospital outside the network. For my knee replacement last January I paid $198.00 out of pocket. That was the surgery, overnight in the surgery center, an MRI, two x-rays, and eight weeks of physical therapy.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Apr 13, 2020 21:30:51 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Apr 13, 2020 19:13:59 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Next chapter in the saga of my sordid 35 year love affair with America's vulture capitalist health insurance industry...

I never get sick, but  I had to find an in- network orthopod to fix my broken clavicle.

Found the guy i was looking for and saw him at 10 AM today.

He scheduled the surgery for tomorrow at a suburban center that is still open. (No general anesthesia because of COVID.) HOORAH!

Then the surgery center calls me this afternoon.  They are not covered by my insurance.

That is the fault of the surgery center, not the insurance company. My Medicare Supplement policy is actually with Huntsville Hospital here. Huntsville Hospital owns about seven hospitals in the five county North Alabama area and I can go to any one of them. If the HH network can't treat my problem I can go to any hospital outside the network. For my knee replacement last January I paid $198.00 out of pocket. That was the surgery, overnight in the surgery center, an MRI, two x-rays, and eight weeks of physical therapy.

ANOTHER "SOCIALISM" SUCCESS STORY, EH, RA MEY? 

[oldgraylady57]

Good luck Willie.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Apr 14, 2020 13:22:22 GMT -5 oldgraylady57 said:

Good luck Willie.

thanks, ogl.

my surgery is still on hold, and there are no ventilators for general anesthesia.

have you heard from houston?

[oldgraylady57]

Apr 14, 2020 16:17:53 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Apr 14, 2020 13:22:22 GMT -5 oldgraylady57 said:

Good luck Willie.

thanks, ogl.

my surgery is still on hold, and there are no ventilators for general anesthesia.

have you heard from houston?

Yes, my cardiac catheterization procedure is still scheduled for May 11. I believe they have everything they need. Baylor called me today to do a pre-registration.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Had my clavicle surgery on Thursday afternoon at an outpatient surgery center in Englewood, Colorado-- the only place open in the region.  The bone was broken into four pieces-- but the surgeon did a great job of bolting it together with a metal plate-- judging from the post-op X-rays.

I was the only patient in the entire building-- with a skeleton crew of two nurses, the anesthesiologist, and the orthodpedic surgeon.

The building was locked when my wife came over to pick me up at 5:30-- during a blizzard--but my wife was able to call the nurse at the nurse's station to open the door.

All's well that ends well.

[oldgraylady57]

Apr 20, 2020 14:20:03 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Had my clavicle surgery on Thursday afternoon at an outpatient surgery center in Englewood, Colorado-- the only place open in the region.  The bone was broken into four pieces-- but the surgeon did a great job of bolting it together with a metal plate-- judging from the post-op X-rays.

I was the only patient in the entire building-- with a skeleton crew of two nurses, the anesthesiologist, and the orthodpedic surgeon.

The building was locked when my wife came over to pick me up at 5:30-- during a blizzard--but my wife was able to call the nurse at the nurse's station to open the door.

All's well that ends well.

Good for you Willie.

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Apr 11, 2020 20:57:03 GMT -5 canefan said:

Apr 11, 2020 17:07:01 GMT -5 daleko said:

Got it. Sorry to hear you are injured. Now I'm gonna tell you what my kid recently said to me about a physical behavior. Climbing a two story ladder to put down a cpl of nails. "Pops, you aren't 32 anymore. That was 40 yrs ago. In your case 30.   He promptly monkeyed up the ladder and was down in under 5 minutes.

Man I can't get that through my 67 yo wife's head. My legs are so bad I cant lift either up to even try to go up a ladder. But instead of calling any of our 30 something kids she is all the time pulling the ladder out and up she goes. Usually lately all the smoke alarm backup batteries are running out and we have 10-12 foot ceilings. So up she goes and I hold the ladder and hope to catch her should she fall.

Don't try to catch her ................  just cushion her.  

Seriously, the best thing to do would be let her fall into your arms and fall with her.  That will slow and spread out the inevitable ground impact, like a parachutist who rolls when he lands. 

Think: "Roll with the punch."

I tripped myself on the 6th, and went down on the linoleum kitchen floor.  It was face forward chest and I put my right arm out to cushion the fall, but my forearm went under my chest and bruised the hell out of my ribs on the right side.  Not much different from landing hard on a properly inflated football.

Nothing to do about it but grin and bear the pain.

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Apr 13, 2020 10:59:23 GMT -5 canefan said:

Apr 12, 2020 23:17:48 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

My Sweetheart has been doing the ladder climbing the last few months with my bad knee and the surgery. I hold the ladder and tell her to yell if she slips so I can get out of the way. She is not amused.

LOL!! You sound as compassionate as my buddy who was my flight instructor. The day he decided I was to solo the first time he didn't tell me anything. When we landed instead of going to our normal parking spot he told me to taxi up to the tower. He proceeded to climb out and told me I was going to shoot a couple of touch and goes on my own, but first he wanted to gather up all of his stuff just in case I crashed and burned. That was bad enough but then in my run up somehow when I checked the mags, there are two, you switch one off, power up, switch it back on and repeat with the other. Somehow I forgot to turn the last back on. So as I'm accelerating down the runway I'm waiting and waiting to rotate but I hear a little sputtering. I'm thinking I should have a shorter run without 180 pounds sitting next to me. Suddenly I look and see the one mag turned off, switch it on and literally leap into the air.

You could have left the carb heat on for even more fun, too.     You're lucky the plugs didn't foul, either.

But you don't power up, you set the RPM to about 1700 (depending on the plane) and then look for a drop in RPM when you switch to one mag, and then the other, and confirm there is not a huge difference in RPM drop between the two.

(Sorry I'm such a nitpicker)

My first flight with my instructor was "You know what you are doing --- go preflight the plane and I'll be out in a few minutes."  Very seldom did he touch the controls unless he wanted to show off, like rolling down the runway with only one main touching.  Most of the time he just sat there with his coffee cup, telling me what maneuver he wanted.

He knew I had already learned the basics from a CFII who had tons more experience than he did.

It's great to have a brother who can fly and instruct in anything from a Piper Cub to a Boeing 707.

[canefan]

Apr 20, 2020 22:50:27 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Apr 13, 2020 10:59:23 GMT -5 canefan said:

LOL!! You sound as compassionate as my buddy who was my flight instructor. The day he decided I was to solo the first time he didn't tell me anything. When we landed instead of going to our normal parking spot he told me to taxi up to the tower. He proceeded to climb out and told me I was going to shoot a couple of touch and goes on my own, but first he wanted to gather up all of his stuff just in case I crashed and burned. That was bad enough but then in my run up somehow when I checked the mags, there are two, you switch one off, power up, switch it back on and repeat with the other. Somehow I forgot to turn the last back on. So as I'm accelerating down the runway I'm waiting and waiting to rotate but I hear a little sputtering. I'm thinking I should have a shorter run without 180 pounds sitting next to me. Suddenly I look and see the one mag turned off, switch it on and literally leap into the air.

You could have left the carb heat on for even more fun, too.     You're lucky the plugs didn't foul, either.

But you don't power up, you set the RPM to about 1700 (depending on the plane) and then look for a drop in RPM when you switch to one mag, and then the other, and confirm there is not a huge difference in RPM drop between the two.

(Sorry I'm such a nitpicker)

My first flight with my instructor was "You know what you are doing --- go preflight the plane and I'll be out in a few minutes."  Very seldom did he touch the controls unless he wanted to show off, like rolling down the runway with only one main touching.  Most of the time he just sat there with his coffee cup, telling me what maneuver he wanted.

He knew I had already learned the basics from a CFII who had tons more experience than he did.

It's great to have a brother who can fly and instruct in anything from a Piper Cub to a Boeing 707.

It's been forever since I flew so I'm sure I've forgotten plenty of those details. I do remember vividly when I pushed that mag back on I literally jumped into the air. I learned cheap too. Rented a 150 my brother was a partner in for fuel, $9 an hour. My flight instructor was an older fellow student who was lost in biochemistry. I tutored him through that class and he taught me to fly. And I bought the text book and taught myself ground school.

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Apr 21, 2020 21:45:01 GMT -5 canefan said:

Apr 20, 2020 22:50:27 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

You could have left the carb heat on for even more fun, too.     You're lucky the plugs didn't foul, either.

But you don't power up, you set the RPM to about 1700 (depending on the plane) and then look for a drop in RPM when you switch to one mag, and then the other, and confirm there is not a huge difference in RPM drop between the two.

(Sorry I'm such a nitpicker)

My first flight with my instructor was "You know what you are doing --- go preflight the plane and I'll be out in a few minutes."  Very seldom did he touch the controls unless he wanted to show off, like rolling down the runway with only one main touching.  Most of the time he just sat there with his coffee cup, telling me what maneuver he wanted.

He knew I had already learned the basics from a CFII who had tons more experience than he did.

It's great to have a brother who can fly and instruct in anything from a Piper Cub to a Boeing 707.

It's been forever since I flew so I'm sure I've forgotten plenty of those details. I do remember vividly when I pushed that mag back on I literally jumped into the air. I learned cheap too. Rented a 150 my brother was a partner in for fuel, $9 an hour. My flight instructor was an older fellow student who was lost in biochemistry. I tutored him through that class and he taught me to fly. And I bought the text book and taught myself ground school.

My 152 trainer was $36 an hour wet, IIRC. The IFR 152 was $38, and the cool 172 that I looked at like a fighter (SO advanced! LOL) was $42, I think. 

I think Brian's fee (my instructor) was $20 an hour?  Too long ago to remember.  I do remember that I got my ticket for a bit less than $2500 total.

Yeah I did the ground school on my own too, thanks to Bill Kirschner. His book is GREAT.
www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/1211

Looking back on it now, and with what I know now, I think I taught MYSELF to fly.   Brian was only there to keep me from killing myself.  LOL

Where most students have problems -- the radio -- was a cinch to me since I had been a cop for about 15 years by then.  I had no choice but to learn,  since we flew from a controlled airfield.  The main difference was, as a cop, I called "control" AFTER I identified myself.  As a pilot, you call "control" first, and THEN identify who you are.
For those who are reading this and don't get it........

"PA-5, dispatch." "Dispatch -- go ahead."  Cop talk.

"Baton Rouge ground, Cessna 69031."  "Cessna 69031, ground, go ahead."  Pilot talk.

And from then on, the plane was only "031," unless there was another 031 on the freq.  Never happened to me, though.

031 was flipped over and damaged by a tornado several years ago.  I have a pic of that somewhere.  It's still on the FAA registry, but I don't know if it was ever repaired.