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Post by Panama pfRedd on Jan 22, 2021 17:31:43 GMT -5
Not convinced (yet) we're on the verge of Civil War, but have to admit I've never been this pessimistic about the country as I am today. The push for "American Carnage" and the fight against it is over. No way left but up! I think the country is done with the divisiveness. It may take some time to shake out of the system, and there will be kooks on both sides that remain, but IMO, "times they are a-changin'", and for the better. A near 50-50 split in both houses of Congress will make it nearly impossible to do anything without bi-partisan support. That reality will sink in soon enough. Not a student of gravity I see...
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Post by oujour76 on Jan 22, 2021 18:25:14 GMT -5
Not convinced (yet) we're on the verge of Civil War, but have to admit I've never been this pessimistic about the country as I am today. I think we are already in a Cold Civil War. I'm sure you've heard the horseshoe theory of the political spectrum. Here is Jimmy Dore connecting the ends together. When the extremes find common cause.... Cold, yes. Hasn’t gone hot yet...hoping it doesn’t.
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Post by oujour76 on Jan 22, 2021 18:28:22 GMT -5
Not convinced (yet) we're on the verge of Civil War, but have to admit I've never been this pessimistic about the country as I am today. The push for "American Carnage" and the fight against it is over. No way left but up! I think the country is done with the divisiveness. It may take some time to shake out of the system, and there will be kooks on both sides that remain, but IMO, "times they are a-changin'", and for the better. A near 50-50 split in both houses of Congress will make it nearly impossible to do anything without bi-partisan support. That reality will sink in soon enough. We shall see.
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Post by dilligaf on Jan 28, 2021 23:51:08 GMT -5
Nobody expects Mutt and Fred to join in, but unity requires justice and reconciliation. That needs to happen. First step: Acknowledge that an assault on the Capitol is completely unacceptable. Say it, or there is no reason to listen to you any further. Unity requires ending communist type agendas in the United States. When will Democrats do that? Unity requires recognizing EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, even if you don't like them.
When will Demoncrats do THAT? Unity requires the cessation of constant lies about people you don't agree with. When will Demoncrats do THAT?
No conservative has ever approved of criminal activity. The false claims that Donald Trump was involved on the Jan 6th crimes is certainly NOT promoting unity.
Until Democrats realize that nearly every one of their pet agendas is harmful to America, there will be NO UNITY. WE will never surrender to your tyranny and slave-owner tactics. Who is "WE?" Look at all 50 states --- at the good decent people who support THEIR COUNTRY and THEIR FREEDOM --- and you see who WE are.
WE are the people who will put an end to Demoncrat insanity. I might not be alive to see our eventual victory, but it IS coming. Failure is not an option.
I will happily accept Demoncrats' sincere apologies for being so stupid and hateful, and then I will happily take them under my wing and educate them on how TRUE America works.
I THINK I am too old to physically fight a war, but there's only one way to know for sure --- don't push me. As long as I can hold and load a gun, aim it accurately, and pull the trigger with enough precision to take out a domestic terrorist lieberal I'll be there. I will never allow my seriously handicapped wife to be rolled into a Demoncrat death chamber. She will die free of Demoncrat slavery, even if I have to kill her myself. Even with a near-fatal stroke, she is smarter and more coherent that Bitem and Kameltoe, Burger King Nancy, and the rest of the Demoncrat freedom-haters.
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Post by dilligaf on Jan 29, 2021 0:07:21 GMT -5
Not convinced (yet) we're on the verge of Civil War, but have to admit I've never been this pessimistic about the country as I am today. The push for "American Carnage" and the fight against it is over. No way left but up! I think the country is done with the divisiveness. It may take some time to shake out of the system, and there will be kooks on both sides that remain, but IMO, "times they are a-changin'", and for the better. A near 50-50 split in both houses of Congress will make it nearly impossible to do anything without bi-partisan support. That reality will sink in soon enough. Congress on BOTH SIDES does NOT represent the grassroots American CITIZENS.
They want to dangle the unity worm in front of the plain, sane America people, but their poles are constructed of pork, which is then "recycled" to our enemies and the remoras who have latched on to us.
Look at the center of Bitem's policies, It is unashamedly CLIMATE CHANGE ---- a false idea with no conclusive scientific basis Those idiot want to steer the future of the United States based on the word of people who can't even tell you with 100% certainty if you will get rain in your hometown tomorrow. Theses people can't get simple rain and hurricanes right! To think that they can determine what earth's atmosphere will be like in 20 years is admitting that they are getting their information from Madame Zora's crystal ball, at $350.00 for a 10 minute session. Which must be repeated two more times with a one hour cycle.
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Post by dilligaf on Jan 29, 2021 0:11:31 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL.
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Post by Walter on Jan 29, 2021 8:38:46 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL. "...leaving Mr. Trump alone..." implies he is above the law and should get special treatment. He ain't king. If he violated the law, he should be prosecuted. Period.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jan 29, 2021 9:20:39 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL. "...leaving Mr. Trump alone..." implies he is above the law and should get special treatment. He ain't king. If he violated the law, he should be prosecuted. Period. I agree. If he violated the law he should be prosecuted in civil or criminal court. This impeachment is a political witch hunt, just like the last one. Democrats in Congress stated before Trump was even inaugurated that they would impeach him. They did, and it failed. If Democrats really want to unify the country they will work out a compromise Trump and Democrats will accept.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 29, 2021 9:46:48 GMT -5
"...leaving Mr. Trump alone..." implies he is above the law and should get special treatment. He ain't king. If he violated the law, he should be prosecuted. Period. I agree. If he violated the law he should be prosecuted in civil or criminal court. This impeachment is a political witch hunt, just like the last one. Democrats in Congress stated before Trump was even inaugurated that they would impeach him. They did, and it failed. If Democrats really want to unify the country they will work out a compromise Trump and Democrats will accept.Why does Trump need to accept it? He's no longer president. And why would he be willing to compromise? It doesn't benefit him to do so, and I've rarely seen him do things that are not ultimately motivated by his own best interests.
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Post by Walter on Jan 29, 2021 10:29:45 GMT -5
"...leaving Mr. Trump alone..." implies he is above the law and should get special treatment. He ain't king. If he violated the law, he should be prosecuted. Period. I agree. If he violated the law he should be prosecuted in civil or criminal court. This impeachment is a political witch hunt, just like the last one. Democrats in Congress stated before Trump was even inaugurated that they would impeach him. They did, and it failed. If Democrats really want to unify the country they will work out a compromise Trump and Democrats will accept.Who gives a shit what TFP 'will accept'? As Romney said, (and I paraphrase), "Until Trump and his followers admit the Election Fraud argument was a lie, there is no reason to compromise anything."
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Jan 29, 2021 11:45:05 GMT -5
I agree. If he violated the law he should be prosecuted in civil or criminal court. This impeachment is a political witch hunt, just like the last one. Democrats in Congress stated before Trump was even inaugurated that they would impeach him. They did, and it failed. If Democrats really want to unify the country they will work out a compromise Trump and Democrats will accept. Who gives a shit what TFP 'will accept'? As Romney said, (and I paraphrase), "Until Trump and his followers admit the Election Fraud argument was a lie, there is no reason to compromise anything." What's the term... rent free in your head? You're demented.
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Post by dilligaf on Jan 29, 2021 11:52:51 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL. "...leaving Mr. Trump alone..." implies he is above the law and should get special treatment. He ain't king. If he violated the law, he should be prosecuted. Period. President Trump violated no law in regards to this second fake impeachment. This we know for a fact. What evidence was presented? NONE. What defense was presented? He wasn't given the chance.
Leave the man alone and stop persecuting him for exposing Demoncrat evil. Learn the lesson he taught you and all loony lieberals, and tell your heroes to start cleaning up their own pigpen.
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Post by Walter on Jan 29, 2021 11:52:59 GMT -5
Who gives a shit what TFP 'will accept'? As Romney said, (and I paraphrase), "Until Trump and his followers admit the Election Fraud argument was a lie, there is no reason to compromise anything." What's the term... rent free in your head? You're demented. In this section, you should try to refrain from direct comments about members and stick to the discussion. Your post does not address the topic.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 29, 2021 12:41:19 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL. What crime had Nixon been convicted of when he was pardoned?
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Post by Walter on Jan 29, 2021 12:54:08 GMT -5
You can't pardon a person who has committed no crime and certainly has not been CONVICTED, so this question is REALLY STUPID.
Unity is created by leaving Mr. Trump alone, and vote for or against him if he runs for office again,
Trying to SILENCE Mr. Trump is nothing but ILLEGAL. What crime had Nixon been convicted of when he was pardoned? Steve Bannon says hello as well.
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