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Post by CWGBuckeyes on May 26, 2023 4:24:35 GMT -5
No,
We do NOT. The incident happened on May 20, and a full investigation can take quite some time. The evidence we have is the slanted testimony from the bunch of parasites who are looking to get rich off a lawsuit, and whatever they get, they will bow before the now 11 year old ever comes of age to get HIS share.
Let's allow the HONEST INVESTIGATION to run its course.
Oh yes the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" bullshit cops get away with. I'd love for someone to go into court and use that once for a defense and see what happens. Cops get to do it why shouldn't we "Judge I investigated myself for this speeding ticket and found I wasn't speeding" |
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Post by dilligaf on May 26, 2023 12:06:11 GMT -5
No,
We do NOT. The incident happened on May 20, and a full investigation can take quite some time. The evidence we have is the slanted testimony from the bunch of parasites who are looking to get rich off a lawsuit, and whatever they get, they will bow before the now 11 year old ever comes of age to get HIS share.
Let's allow the HONEST INVESTIGATION to run its course.
Oh yes the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" bullshit cops get away with. I'd love for someone to go into court and use that once for a defense and see what happens. Cops get to do it why shouldn't we "Judge I investigated myself for this speeding ticket and found I wasn't speeding" People defend themselves in court against traffic tickets all the time, numbnuts. Sometimes they actually win.
Whether you like it or not, comrade, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty, and that includes cops. So go sit in your corner, suck your thumb, and be a cop hater all by yourself.
No one here cares what YOU think.
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Post by CWGBuckeyes on May 26, 2023 12:23:49 GMT -5
Oh yes the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" bullshit cops get away with. I'd love for someone to go into court and use that once for a defense and see what happens. Cops get to do it why shouldn't we "Judge I investigated myself for this speeding ticket and found I wasn't speeding" People defend themselves in court against traffic tickets all the time, numbnuts. Sometimes they actually win.
Whether you like it or not, comrade, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty, and that includes cops. So go sit in your corner, suck your thumb, and be a cop hater all by yourself.
No one here cares what YOU think.
No not defend themselves. Find themselves not guilty Can I find myself not guilty? Cops can. They can go "we did nothing wrong" and that's it. No trial No court no judge No jury. Case closes. Cops claimed they were innocent it's all over Can I do that? |
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Post by oujour76 on May 26, 2023 12:53:02 GMT -5
People defend themselves in court against traffic tickets all the time, numbnuts. Sometimes they actually win.
Whether you like it or not, comrade, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty, and that includes cops. So go sit in your corner, suck your thumb, and be a cop hater all by yourself.
No one here cares what YOU think.
No not defend themselves. Find themselves not guilty Can I find myself not guilty? Cops can. They can go "we did nothing wrong" and that's it. No trial No court no judge No jury. Case closes. Cops claimed they were innocent it's all over Can I do that? Not totally true. I doubt that the $1.5 billion in payouts you were talking about came from cops declaring themselves not guilty. |
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Post by daleko on May 26, 2023 13:10:58 GMT -5
No,
We do NOT. The incident happened on May 20, and a full investigation can take quite some time. The evidence we have is the slanted testimony from the bunch of parasites who are looking to get rich off a lawsuit, and whatever they get, they will bow before the now 11 year old ever comes of age to get HIS share.
Let's allow the HONEST INVESTIGATION to run its course.
Oh yes the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" bullshit cops get away with. I'd love for someone to go into court and use that once for a defense and see what happens. Cops get to do it why shouldn't we "Judge I investigated myself for this speeding ticket and found I wasn't speeding" |
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Post by dilligaf on May 26, 2023 13:39:41 GMT -5
People defend themselves in court against traffic tickets all the time, numbnuts. Sometimes they actually win.
Whether you like it or not, comrade, people in this country are innocent until proven guilty, and that includes cops. So go sit in your corner, suck your thumb, and be a cop hater all by yourself.
No one here cares what YOU think.
No not defend themselves. Find themselves not guilty Can I find myself not guilty? Cops can. They can go "we did nothing wrong" and that's it. No trial No court no judge No jury. Case closes. Cops claimed they were innocent it's all over Can I do that? You are wrong again. In most (probably ALL) officer involved shootings, an outside agency, generally of higher power, will investigate the legality of the shooting. The agency itself can determine if their officer violated departmental policy. Those are two completely separate issues.
Yes, you can declare yourself not guilty of a traffic violation. However, the court will not recognize it, unless the officer fails to show up to testify against you. In most cases like that, the charge will be dismissed, and the officer could have a bench warrant issued for him for failure to appear, AND be sanctioned for violation of departmental policy.
You can certainly employ any argument you wish in court. Maybe one will work. Others will get you laughed at, and some may even get you charged with contempt of court. Just don't try the sovereign citizen argument.
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Post by CWGBuckeyes on May 26, 2023 13:41:18 GMT -5
No not defend themselves. Find themselves not guilty Can I find myself not guilty? Cops can. They can go "we did nothing wrong" and that's it. No trial No court no judge No jury. Case closes. Cops claimed they were innocent it's all over Can I do that? Not totally true. I doubt that the $1.5 billion in payouts you were talking about came from cops declaring themselves not guilty. But actually it is. Nearly all settlements come with a statement saying its not admitting guilt or they don't admit any wrong doing They just say settling is cheaper than going to trial |
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Post by CWGBuckeyes on May 26, 2023 13:43:08 GMT -5
Oh yes the "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" bullshit cops get away with. I'd love for someone to go into court and use that once for a defense and see what happens. Cops get to do it why shouldn't we "Judge I investigated myself for this speeding ticket and found I wasn't speeding" But that citzen has to be a close friend of mine or even a relative. Someone that will gladly look the other way and declare me innocent and then case closed. No more investigation or trial or anything Marc was going to defend my dad but my dad took a plea before he could And if you think my dad's old bolt action gun is an "assault rifle" you may need to do some more research |
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Post by CWGBuckeyes on May 26, 2023 13:47:04 GMT -5
No not defend themselves. Find themselves not guilty Can I find myself not guilty? Cops can. They can go "we did nothing wrong" and that's it. No trial No court no judge No jury. Case closes. Cops claimed they were innocent it's all over Can I do that? You are wrong again. In most (probably ALL) officer involved shootings, an outside agency, generally of higher power, will investigate the legality of the shooting. The agency itself can determine if their officer violated departmental policy. Those are two completely separate issues.
Yes, you can declare yourself not guilty of a traffic violation. However, the court will not recognize it, unless the officer fails to show up to testify against you. In most cases like that, the charge will be dismissed, and the officer could have a bench warrant issued for him for failure to appear, AND be sanctioned for violation of departmental policy.
But it's still cops investigating cops I want my own family to investigate me. And when they say I didn't do anything that's the final verdict |
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Post by daleko on May 26, 2023 13:48:07 GMT -5
I think a more accurate comparison would be you bringing in another citizen to investigate and defend you. Which, in fact, is what happened when your father brought in another hunter, our own Marc, to defend him V the Ohio DNR and got him off for shooting his "assault rifle" at a home. But that citzen has to be a close friend of mine or even a relative. Someone that will gladly look the other way and declare me innocent and then case closed. No more investigation or trial or anything Marc was going to defend my dad but my dad took a plea before he could |
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Post by dilligaf on May 26, 2023 13:52:15 GMT -5
You are wrong again. In most (probably ALL) officer involved shootings, an outside agency, generally of higher power, will investigate the legality of the shooting. The agency itself can determine if their officer violated departmental policy. Those are two completely separate issues.
Yes, you can declare yourself not guilty of a traffic violation. However, the court will not recognize it, unless the officer fails to show up to testify against you. In most cases like that, the charge will be dismissed, and the officer could have a bench warrant issued for him for failure to appear, AND be sanctioned for violation of departmental policy.
But it's still cops investigating cops I want my own family to investigate me. And when they say I didn't do anything that's the final verdict
An OIS will usually be investigated by the DA's office, and possibly the state Attorney General if it involves a state agency.
Give up. All you are doing is reinforcing your prejudice against police officers. Those same people you hate will DIE protecting your sorry ass if necessary. Would you die protecting one of THEM?
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Post by dilligaf on May 26, 2023 13:54:14 GMT -5
But that citzen has to be a close friend of mine or even a relative. Someone that will gladly look the other way and declare me innocent and then case closed. No more investigation or trial or anything Marc was going to defend my dad but my dad took a plea before he could |
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Post by Panama pfRedd on May 26, 2023 14:03:53 GMT -5
And he thought your dad was wrong but he hated the DNR, so he spent the time to spin it. He would have won. Small world though. Unless it was accidental. Intentionally shooting at a house should land you in prison every time. |
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Post by dilligaf on May 26, 2023 14:07:53 GMT -5
I would tend to agree that assaulting a house with a hunting rifle is not a good thing to do. Unless it was accidental. Intentionally shooting at a house should land you in prison every time.
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