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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 12:00:37 GMT -5
Why can't tOSU cover the friggin thread? I keep picking them like they are something special which they are not and I keep losing. OSU covered at n'western. Mark Scott Tosu '81 Yes and he should have covered this week too. I think tOSU should fire the SEC reject coach because he wins all of his games, but can't always cover the spreads.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 15:59:15 GMT -5
Will Muschamp 10/23 presser - he touched on some things I've been bitching about. We'll see if Jay-nard Bostwick gets on the field and if he presses the OTs, particularly Tyler Moore who would do better at G, who have played so poorly. Bostwick and Ivey have to play and keep Bullard at SDE where he belongs: www.gatorvision.tv/mediaPortal/player.dbml?id=3086462&db_oem_id=6500He was asked about Demarcus Robinson. I'm glad he mentioned that gutless stop on the crossing pattern that led to an interception. Robinson has to make those plays in the SEC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 16:30:24 GMT -5
Written by Nick de la Torre, October 23, 2013
For the second time this season the Florida Gators head into a bye week following a disappointing loss. In football, and most sports, the best way to forget about a loss is to get back out on the field and take out your frustration. Unfortunately the Gators will have to wait another week before they get an opportunity get the sour taste of losing back-to-back games out of their mouth.
Even though the team won’t have a chance to get back in the win column this week, the bye comes at a very good time for the Gators. This is a team that is blindly searching for answers for an offensive line that has been described as inept and a team that continues to battle the injury bug.
Injury Report •Ronald Powell has not participated in practice this week but Muschamp is hopeful to get the redshirt junior back next week against Georgia.
“I think we’ll get Ronald Powell back next week. He’s been unable to do anything thus far this week. He’s been running, but just not ready for the change of direction and taking on blocks. But I think he’ll be fine.” •Jeremi Powell tore his ACL during the Missouri game. It was another non-contact injury and Powell is the sixth Gator to be lost this season due to an ACL injury. •Tyler Murphy will not throw this week. Muschamp said that Murphy is still out at practice and participating in everything except for throwing drills. •Damien Jacobs has not been able to practice this week with a “head injury.” Muschamp said he expected Jacobs would be able to play last week and didn’t know until Thursday that Jacobs wouldn’t be available against Missouri. •Darrin Kitchens has a shoulder injury but he hasn’t been evaluated yet due to the birth of his daughter this week. He is away from the team with his wife and family currently. •Colin Thompson has not been able to practice since he re-injured his foot. •Kent Taylor had an ankle injury earlier in the season but he is healthy now. His lack of playing time is not due to a current injury.
Self Evaluation Time •Bye weeks are normally reserved for the coaching staff to recruit while the team works on fundamentals and watches film. Rather than sending the coaches out to recruit on Sunday and Monday, Muschamp kept his staff in Gainesville to diagnose issues and find solutions.
“I had some coaches who were supposed to be out recruiting Sunday and Monday and told the whole staff we need to get back in, we need to sit down and figure some things out.” •The staff is trying to find ways to get the team to play faster and with more confidence. One of the solutions to being able to achieve that is to simplify some things on offense. •Muschamp and the offense went away from Kelvin Taylor and the running game too quickly against Missouri. Once the team was down two scores they started pressing rather than sticking with the hot hand.
Fixing the Offensive Line •As the team self evaluates this week, Trenton Brown appears to be a player on the verge of getting more reps.
“I think Trenton’s a guy that needs some opportunities and some turns. We’ve got to get him in there and let him play some.” •The offensive line was supposed to be strength this season but they have become the most glaring weakness on the football team.
“I just don’t think we’ve performed as well as we need to, there’s no question. First year, we were a little, you know, handcuffed, as far as where we were and what we were trying to do. But certainly this year, I felt like that we would have played a little better at this point.” •Right now, D.J. Humphries would be one of the five starters that will move forward with the team. Humphries didn’t start against Missouri and he and Muschamp had a conversation about his play this season.
“I think so. D.J. needs to play better and he knows that. I’m not telling you anything he and I haven’t talked about. Just be more consistent in his play, in his sets as far as the pass game is concerned and sealing the edges in some things.” •The coaching staff will continue to look for five guys that they are comfortable with on the offensive line, Muschamp wouldn’t say if he thought Tyler Moore was one of those five guys.
Burning Redshirts •After Kyle Christy’s lackluster performance to start the season, the coaching staff showed that they aren’t afraid to burn a players’ redshirt. Johnny Townsend was supposed to redshirt this year but performed well when given an opportunity last week. •Joey Ivie and Jay-nard Bostwick are two players that were named as freshmen who were scheduled to redshirt but could have played last week and might play in the future.
“Yeah, in the game we probably should have played Joey Ivie and Jay-nard Bostwick in the game. We’re very thin defensively. We probably should have played those guys and just gone with it. Those guys have been progressing very well.” •Octavius Jackson has also been getting some reps with the offensive line and there is a possibility he could play and burn his redshirt status as well.
Recruiting •NCAA bylaws prohibit coaches from mentioning recruits by name and coaches often avoid questions about recruiting. Muschamp was asked how the struggling offense is affecting recruiting and if it can have a negative impact.
“No, we’re doing fine. We’re doing fine. Struggling a little bit, but some of those guys look at it as, ‘What a great opportunity to come to a program like Florida and play.’”
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Oct 23, 2013 17:02:41 GMT -5
I've read that the Gators recruiting is starting to get shaky.
Specifically, our insider folks expect FSU to possibly snatch Dalvin Cook from you guys.... which would be huge.
And maybe David Sharpe...who was thought to be a UF or UGA lean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 17:39:32 GMT -5
I've read that the Gators recruiting is starting to get shaky. Specifically, our insider folks expect FSU to possibly snatch Dalvin Cook from you guys.... which would be huge. And maybe David Sharpe...who was thought to be a UF or UGA lean. With due respect, I think yer being kind...The Gator recruiting machine may not have forseen the injuries that have occurred (duh) to derail their hopes this year but (make no mistake) they are KEENLY aware of the external recruiting from the other SEC titans. It's sure nice to have a Nick Saban team and mega-budget program like the Tide, but IMO the Gators won't be happy until they return to the Timmy Tebow glory daze
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 19:02:50 GMT -5
Shaky is relative. When you realize UF is only taking 22+-1, there aren't many remaining open spots.
UF according to some sources leads for a 5 star OL and isn't out of it with David Sharpe.
Dalvin Cook isn't switching. I hear the same song and dance from Darrell. UF is trying to flip Bo Scarbrough from bama since he's now in Bradenton, but so far without any success.
Again, shaky is relative. I never expected a top 5 recruiting class with so few recruits. I will be surprised if UF isn't around 10 come NSD.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Oct 24, 2013 9:08:44 GMT -5
Shaky is relative. When you realize UF is only taking 22+-1, there aren't many remaining open spots. UF according to some sources leads for a 5 star OL and isn't out of it with David Sharpe. Dalvin Cook isn't switching. I hear the same song and dance from Darrell. UF is trying to flip Bo Scarbrough from bama since he's now in Bradenton, but so far without any success. Again, shaky is relative. I never expected a top 5 recruiting class with so few recruits. I will be surprised if UF isn't around 10 come NSD. I've read the quotes from Dalvin himself that seems to indicate that he's sold on UF. That being said, several people who seem to know things about FSU recruiting are all saying that Dalvin is very close to flipping to FSU. I'll believe it when I see it, but if it does happen, that's a monster blow to UF....considering Cook is a stud. I never said UF is out of it with Sharpe, just that those same folks are saying that Sharpe has renewed interest now in FSU. The Miami game next weekend is huge for us. I think we're hosting nearly 100 recruits, and a ton of high end guys. Blow them out of the stadium, and FSU's recruiting will skyrocket. You're right...shaky is relative. But your season is teetering right now. You have two losses, no real offensive identity, and now, it looks as if your defense is starting to wear down due to injury. Anywhere from 4-6 losses is a possibility at this point. If you win them all down the stretch, UF will be fine. If the team implodes and you guys go 6-6...Muschamp's seat gets warm and you'll be scrambling to hold on to the guys you've got.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 11:16:31 GMT -5
Muschamp's seat is already warm with UF fans including me, but his seat isn't warm with Jeremy Foley which is all that counts. The team has been imploded by injuries. As a fan, I can second guess the coaching, but really it's all about trying to coach around catastrophic injuries. I don't see any recruits jumping off the train with so few seats available, but I wear orange and blue glasses.
Georgia is in the same injury boat as UF. Are you hearing their recruiting is shaky too? If not, I'd question the accuracy of your source that suggests Dalvin Cook is close to flipping to FSU. Cook has been enjoying and playing the recruiting process properly. He's solid to UF whether 6-6 happens or not.
UF is 4-3 right now. I consider 6-6 or 7-5 more likely than 8-4. Even with the record, UF will still finish with a recruiting class around 10, maybe as low as 12. My view on this class hasn't changed with the injuries and the lack of success of the season. It'll be more a function of class size than stars being out of line with the UF norm.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Oct 24, 2013 11:51:33 GMT -5
Muschamp's seat is already warm with UF fans including me, but his seat isn't warm with Jeremy Foley which is all that counts. The team has been imploded by injuries. As a fan, I can second guess the coaching, but really it's all about trying to coach around catastrophic injuries. I don't see any recruits jumping off the train with so few seats available, but I wear orange and blue glasses. Georgia is in the same injury boat as UF. Are you hearing their recruiting is shaky too? If not, I'd question the accuracy of your source that suggests Dalvin Cook is close to flipping to FSU. Cook has been enjoying and playing the recruiting process properly. He's solid to UF whether 6-6 happens or not. UF is 4-3 right now. I consider 6-6 or 7-5 more likely than 8-4. Even with the record, UF will still finish with a recruiting class around 10, maybe as low as 12. My view on this class hasn't changed with the injuries and the lack of success of the season. It'll be more a function of class size than stars being out of line with the UF norm. Muschamp's seat is warm with you at 4-3, but you can be damned sure it'll be warm with Foley if it gets to 6-6. Gator fans won't stand for that sort of performance. It doesn't mean he'd be shitcanned at the end of the season, but he'd be coaching for his job next season...of that, I'm sure. You don't see recruits jumping off...yet. If I implied that recruits are bailing from the ship right now, it certainly wasn't my intention. But there are cracks in the hull was my point, and recruits notice. UF is a nationwide name, and for that reason, you'll always get yours. But at the same time, your offense has been anemic for a few seasons now, and there is a reason that you are struggling to recruit great players on that side of the ball. As I said in my first response, I'll believe Dalvin Cook has flipped to FSU when I see it. However, three different people who have the reputation of being "in the know" and having direct ties inside the program have all said the same thing about Cook....that don't believe what he is saying, he has legit interest in FSU, and 2 of those 3 have said they expect him in FSU's class at this point. He's visiting officially this weekend, and we'll see how it shakes out. You can't deny that as of right this moment, FSU is arguably the nation's hottest football team. Huge win last weekend in primetime where they outright demolished the #3 squad, on the road. They have a legit Heisman candidate who is fun to watch, a team player, and a student of the game. It is natural in that aftermath to have a recruiting uptick. Combine that with next weekend, assuming we beat Miami solidly, that would put FSU on top of the world in Florida, which is one of the best states for football recruits. With all that said, it is a long way to February, and a lot of games to be played. But right now, between UF and FSU, you have one team going in one direction, and the other team going in the other direction. Recruits are noticing.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Oct 24, 2013 11:55:18 GMT -5
P.S. UGA's recruiting is faltering some as well. Sharpe used to be considered a heavy UGA lean. I don't follow UGA as much because not as many recruits are head to head with FSU.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 12:19:43 GMT -5
TYHNC, you and Vic appear to be lip locked about how good your teams are. Just ask the other people around this site. FSU hasn't been all that for a long time. It wasn't that long ago that Jimbo Fisher was in trouble with the nolie faithful. It didn't overly hurt FSU recruiting. All your points to be accurate add up to UF being a smaller player for recruits than FSU. That is not the case.
With the above stated, you can have any last word. I have no interest in discussing recruiting for this recruiting season as the hand writing for this class has been on the wall since the end of the last recruiting class and has zero to do with this years record. As you said, UF will get theirs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 12:22:37 GMT -5
PS UF isn't going head to head with FSU on Dalvin Cook. Your sources are incorrect.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Oct 24, 2013 12:50:33 GMT -5
TYHNC, you and Vic appear to be lip locked about how good your teams are. Just ask the other people around this site. FSU hasn't been all that for a long time. It wasn't that long ago that Jimbo Fisher was in trouble with the nolie faithful. It didn't overly hurt FSU recruiting. All your points to be accurate add up to UF being a smaller player for recruits than FSU. That is not the case. With the above stated, you can have any last word. I have no interest in discussing recruiting for this recruiting season as the hand writing for this class has been on the wall since the end of the last recruiting class and has zero to do with this years record. As you said, UF will get theirs. LOL...your bitter tears are sweet. Of course I'm going to talk about how good we are. This is the best we've been in a decade, and I'm going to ride the train as long as it'll go. If you didn't think mediocrity hurt FSU's recruiting before Fisher was head coach, you haven't been paying attention. I didn't say a smaller player for recruits than FSU. I said that poor seasons = damaged recruiting. I'm not sure that can even be argued otherwise. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Post by canefan on Oct 24, 2013 12:53:49 GMT -5
Shaky is relative. When you realize UF is only taking 22+-1, there aren't many remaining open spots. UF according to some sources leads for a 5 star OL and isn't out of it with David Sharpe. Dalvin Cook isn't switching. I hear the same song and dance from Darrell. UF is trying to flip Bo Scarbrough from bama since he's now in Bradenton, but so far without any success. Again, shaky is relative. I never expected a top 5 recruiting class with so few recruits. I will be surprised if UF isn't around 10 come NSD. Bullshit. All I have said about Cook is the occasional rumors that he is looking. I am very happy with Yearby as I believe he is the best of the three studs running backs in the tri-county area this year. There are also rumors that Sonny is getting happy feet with the UGA season in the tank. I'd take either one of them to pair with Yearby if they want to come, but I am perfectly content with Brandon Powell as the second back in this class.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 13:16:42 GMT -5
Darrell, it's been no secret that Dalvin Cook has been taking his visits. Undoubtedly, FSU insiders and TYHNC didn't get the memo.
Bottom line, you've expressed interest in this thread about several UF south Florida commitments including Dalvin Cook. You were semi right about the DT from STA. If he commits to Miami, you'll be completely right. The kid is scared to compete for playing time. He's probably better off with the candy canes.
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