Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Now THIS here...is a member
|
Post by canefan on Jan 11, 2014 20:21:26 GMT -5
Well, if I am reading you wrong I apologize, but it just seems that way to me. I'll defer to what others say.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2014 20:29:12 GMT -5
Well, if I am reading you wrong I apologize, but it just seems that way to me. I'll defer to what others say. Apology accepted.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Now THIS here...is a member
|
Post by canefan on Jan 11, 2014 22:22:32 GMT -5
Such as in Darius Cummings. They aren't always silly answers. Sometimes guys can't crack the lineup and leave to get on the field at another school. I think Worton is a fine football player. Decent speed, good hands, excellent route runner. But if FSU can pull better receivers and Worton sees a better opportunity at a different school...it makes sense for both. Darious Cummings isn't a good example. He went FSU as a freshman, to a JUCO, and then to UF as a junior and now a rising senior. He was consistently in UF's 2 deep last year and will likely be again in the 14 season. I gather FSU wanted him at DT which was correct and he wanted DE. Now, at 6'2"/310, it's a no brainer where he should play. Besides, I know you will agree, only a few true freshmen DTs are impact players. I don't have an interest and frankly don't care what Worton does. UF is doing the same thing as FSU tryting to recruit good WRs. However, UF isn't telling a single commit to look around for a better opportunity because they want to bring in a better player. For example, Chris Lammons left when Jalen Tabor committed. UF wanted both, would have kept both players, and could have played both players in our nickel and dime packages and on special teams. I don't believe Worton is looking around because FSU told him to explore other opportunities as his ship offer may go away. There has to be something else going on. Maybe after NSD something will pop up. That Lammons, Lane and Cook were all looking to leave almost from the day they committed has probably been the worst kept secret of the year. It is flipping season. Coaches don't have to tell a kid to look around or take all their visits. Sometimes it is as simple as continuing to recruit their position hard and not paying a lot of attention to the committed kid. Sometimes it is as simple as believing they have better options available than someone who is committed. That's why I tell people not to fall in love with recruits or recruiting. In the end, the kids who want to be at your school will most likely be there and the kids who want to be elsewhere are better off to go and you are better off for them to go.
|
|
Enter your message here...
Godlike Member
|
Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 12, 2014 8:05:36 GMT -5
Darious Cummings isn't a good example. He went FSU as a freshman, to a JUCO, and then to UF as a junior and now a rising senior. He was consistently in UF's 2 deep last year and will likely be again in the 14 season. I gather FSU wanted him at DT which was correct and he wanted DE. Now, at 6'2"/310, it's a no brainer where he should play. Besides, I know you will agree, only a few true freshmen DTs are impact players. I don't have an interest and frankly don't care what Worton does. UF is doing the same thing as FSU tryting to recruit good WRs. However, UF isn't telling a single commit to look around for a better opportunity because they want to bring in a better player. For example, Chris Lammons left when Jalen Tabor committed. UF wanted both, would have kept both players, and could have played both players in our nickel and dime packages and on special teams. I don't believe Worton is looking around because FSU told him to explore other opportunities as his ship offer may go away. There has to be something else going on. Maybe after NSD something will pop up. That Lammons, Lane and Cook were all looking to leave almost from the day they committed has probably been the worst kept secret of the year. It is flipping season. Coaches don't have to tell a kid to look around or take all their visits. Sometimes it is as simple as continuing to recruit their position hard and not paying a lot of attention to the committed kid. Sometimes it is as simple as believing they have better options available than someone who is committed. That's why I tell people not to fall in love with recruits or recruiting. In the end, the kids who want to be at your school will most likely be there and the kids who want to be elsewhere are better off to go and you are better off for them to go. This.
|
|
That's TrnYerHeadnCough...
"Champion Douche -- 2012 AND 2013"
Back to Back...they may have to retire the contest...
"Bowl Champion Douche --2012-2013"
Get it right.
|
Enter your message here...
Godlike Member
|
Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 12, 2014 8:07:53 GMT -5
Such as in Darius Cummings. They aren't always silly answers. Sometimes guys can't crack the lineup and leave to get on the field at another school. I think Worton is a fine football player. Decent speed, good hands, excellent route runner. But if FSU can pull better receivers and Worton sees a better opportunity at a different school...it makes sense for both. Darious Cummings isn't a good example. He went FSU as a freshman, to a JUCO, and then to UF as a junior and now a rising senior. He was consistently in UF's 2 deep last year and will likely be again in the 14 season. I gather FSU wanted him at DT which was correct and he wanted DE. Now, at 6'2"/310, it's a no brainer where he should play. Besides, I know you will agree, only a few true freshmen DTs are impact players. I don't have an interest and frankly don't care what Worton does. UF is doing the same thing as FSU tryting to recruit good WRs. However, UF isn't telling a single commit to look around for a better opportunity because they want to bring in a better player. For example, Chris Lammons left when Jalen Tabor committed. UF wanted both, would have kept both players, and could have played both players in our nickel and dime packages and on special teams. I don't believe Worton is looking around because FSU told him to explore other opportunities as his ship offer may go away. There has to be something else going on. Maybe after NSD something will pop up. That's the difference. UF wants both and would sign both. Even if FSU wanted both, but doesnt have space....something's got to give.
|
|
That's TrnYerHeadnCough...
"Champion Douche -- 2012 AND 2013"
Back to Back...they may have to retire the contest...
"Bowl Champion Douche --2012-2013"
Get it right.
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 9:11:51 GMT -5
That Lammons, Lane and Cook were all looking to leave almost from the day they committed has probably been the worst kept secret of the year. It is flipping season. Coaches don't have to tell a kid to look around or take all their visits. Sometimes it is as simple as continuing to recruit their position hard and not paying a lot of attention to the committed kid. Sometimes it is as simple as believing they have better options available than someone who is committed. That's why I tell people not to fall in love with recruits or recruiting. In the end, the kids who want to be at your school will most likely be there and the kids who want to be elsewhere are better off to go and you are better off for them to go. This. On "this" we can all agree.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 12:00:09 GMT -5
No. 1 Gators start season with road win
Staff report
Published: Saturday, January 11, 2014 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Sunday, January 12, 2014 at 12:14 a.m.
LOS ANGELES — Top-ranked and defending NCAA gymnastics champion Florida sent a message Saturday night: The Gators aim to repeat.
Despite starting the season on the road and on the same floor the Gators won last year’s national championship, Florida defeated No. 4 UCLA 196.65-196.625.
Florida won the uneven bars and the balance beam, while the Bruins won on the vault and floor exercises.
Junior Kytra Hunter was the all-around champion (39.375) to lead the Gators. Hunter had the highest score on the floor exercise with a 9.925.
The Gators open SEC action at Auburn on Jan. 17 before entertaining Georgia on Jan. 24 in the O'Connell Center in their home opener.
The SEC Championships, where UF is the two-time defending champion, will be held in Birmingham, Ala., March 22, with NCAA Regionals set for April 5.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 20:24:24 GMT -5
I believe this if it happens - it may mean FSU doesn't have the space for him since that has been Trn's complaint and he'd rather be at UF than Miami:
January 12th, 2014 04:30pm
Jackson solid to Florida, uncle says
by Zach Abolverdi
J.C. Jackson has been committed to Florida for more than seven months. (Photo by Zach Abolverdi/The Gainesville Sun)
For the past few months, the actions of Immokalee athlete J.C. Jackson have suggested his commitment to Florida is one that won’t last.
He has taken four trips to Miami, scheduled an official visit to Florida State and been unwilling to discuss the status of his UF pledge at times.
However, one of his family members says he intends to sign with the Gators.
Jackson’s uncle, Duke Rice, called The Sun this weekend to let it be known where his nephew stands with his recruitment.
“J.C. is ready to shut it down,” Rice said. “He’s tired of the process and all these interviews. His mind is made up on Florida. He doesn’t want to go to Miami or Florida State. He wants to go to Florida. He told me that.”
Since the decommitments of Dalvin Cook and Ermon Lane, Jackson has been expected to follow suit because of his previous comments that he would like to play with them in college.
But their decisions will not influence him, according to Rice.
“He called me the other day,” Rice said, “and told me, ‘I don’t care what they do. That’s them. I’m my own man.’
“So he’s going to do what’s best for him. I know that he’s never been a follower his whole life.”
The Under Armour All-American still plans to visit to FSU this month with his uncle, but Rice insists the trip isn’t an indication of Jackson wavering.
“He’s a kid and just wants to enjoy himself,” Rice said. “It’s a free visit to go have fun for a weekend. He also went (on official visits) to Miami and Minnesota, and he isn’t going to those schools. He wants to go to Florida. That’s where his heart is.”
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 11:24:43 GMT -5
Per @rivalsfriedman, 5-star Maryland OT Damian Prince cuts #Miami and #FSU out of top 5, now down to #Florida, #Maryland and #SouthCarolina.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 16:02:52 GMT -5
Free Chris Walker!
From Gator Country:
Written by Franz Beard, January 13, 2014
It is another Monday and Billy Donovan still doesn’t know when the NCAA is going to rule on Chris Walker’s eligibility. It is not like the bumbling organization has a crack team of experts working on this night and day to get it resolved. Far from it. They’ve had all of Chris Walker’s information for months and the NCAA, being the bloated, bureaucratic goliath that it is and consumed by its own sense of self-importance, is making a good kid pay a price for its own ineptitude.
If you’ve ever read “The Peter Principle” – a rather insightful book by Laurence J. Peter which theorizes that organizations promote people from positions in which they are competent into roles for which they have no business attaining – then you have a pretty good idea about the National Collegiate Athletic Association, which has become the poster child for blundering incompetence. This is the same organization that had the greatest slam dunk case in its history handed to it on a silver platter (Miami) and then figured out a way to screw it up. Nevin Shapiro gave the NCAA enough on The U to merit the death penalty. All the NCAA did was put an enforcement crew on the case that broke every ethical standard imaginable. That The U got the greatest slap on the wrist since the NCAA took two scholarships away from Georgia in the Herschel Walker case 30 years ago makes you think Larry, Curly and Moe were in charge.
For those of you who need some updating, Chris Walker is the victim here. He hasn’t committed some heinous crime against the NCAA. If he’s guilty of anything it’s being a naïve kid from a small town who has been taken advantage of by people who knew better and this goes back years and years.
Donovan alluded to that at his Monday morning press conference:
“Sometimes a player that is already in college, the administration sits down with and go through rules, compliance issues and have to sign forms and they are being educated on what the rules are,” Donovan said. “I can see less tolerance sometimes because of that, but then you have situations where you have a high school kid that’s not privy to the rules. No one has come in and sat down with him. There are different things that happen and go on inside those situations.”
That is a kind way for Donovan to say that the adults in charge – the ones who knew better and could have steered Chris Walker through the process – had only themselves in mind and not the kid.
Academically, Walker left Holmes County High School in desperate shape to the point that he had to take online courses – sometimes twice – to get eligible. The folks at Holmes County made sure Chris was eligible so he could lead them to a state championship but they didn’t care enough to make sure he had the grades and courses he needed to get into college. That’s called shameful neglect.
When the NCAA and the University of Florida got on the same page with the academics, Walker was admitted to school immediately. He’s been with the team practicing since the day after finals ended in December.
So why isn’t he eligible?
There are some issues, one of which is an unofficial visit that he took to Kansas that was paid for by an AAU coach. Brannen Greene, who was Walker’s AAU teammate, was on the same trip paid for by the same AAU coach. He signed with Kansas but there have been no NCAA repercussions for him.
When the NCAA has questioned Walker about the trip and some other AAU dealings, Walker has been forthright and hasn’t tried to cover anything up. He was naïve enough to think that he wasn’t doing anything wrong, but he was 17 at the time. The adults in charge — the ones who knew or should have known the rules — let him down.
Donovan, one of the few adults ever associated with Walker who hasn’t used him like a pawn in a personal chess match, knows the kid like nobody else and knows that it’s the adults who should have known better are to blame.
“Right now, I have hope and optimism that a kid that has been totally forthright and honest and truthful and has given everything he possibly could, that the NCAA will do the right thing, so to speak,” Donovan said.
Doing the right thing would be the NCAA ending this charade.
Donovan has to pick and choose his words carefully when speaking about the NCAA. You have to be careful with any organization that calls Mark Emmert its chief executive officer. Emmert is the guy who turned judge, jury and executioner on the Penn State case. He fined the school $60 million and whacked the football program at the kneecaps. What happened at Penn State was bad, but that bad? So any time any coach speaks against Emmert and his band of thugs who are supposed to be there for the betterment of college athletes, you have to be very careful.
“I’m just hopeful and optimistic and the fact that they have asked him (Walker) to basically answer all of their questions in an open and honest way, and I think he has done that to the very best of his ability,” Donovan said. “When it will get decided, when it will happen, I don’t know. I know a lot of people are wanting to find out, but the hard part of this is – as we all mention – is I think people look at different situation or cases in the NCAA and a lot of times there are different rulings on situations where, ‘How come this guy got penalized more than this guy got penalized, and this guy got nothing?’ And I think a lot of times those are the things where there’s not just one standard thing. And the one theme has been, in my opinion: be truthful, be honest. I can say that at least from our school’s perspective they feel like Chris has done that, and that’s all we can ask for right now.”
So Chris Walker continues to practice. He’s started college and from all accounts loves his coaches, loves his teammates and loves being surrounded by positive people, who for the first time in his life, aren’t trying to take advantage of him.
And this is what makes the NCAA’s handling of this case one that should make your blood boil.
Certain high profile schools run NBA assembly lines fed by some of the shadiest characters you can imagine. The kids arrive on campus to play their obligatory one year of college basketball so they can move on to the NBA. Somebody is getting paid and the NCAA knows it but says it doesn’t have the manpower or the subpoena power to enforce the rules. What it doesn’t have is the fortitude to stand up and do what is right.
The NCAA will turn a blind eye to blatant cheaters yet it can hold up the eligibility of a kid like Chris Walker who is at a school with a coach who doesn’t cheat, never has cheated, does things the right way and actually cares about turning the kids who come to him every year into responsible, accountable adults.
There is something wrong about the way this whole case has gone down and it once again points a finger at an organization that has outlived its usefulness. The NCAA is supposed to be all about the student-athlete but instead it’s the big bully. It won’t stand up to any fight it thinks it might lose but doesn’t mind exacting its revenge or showing its power against a small town kid who’s been betrayed by 99% of the adults who he’s encountered in his lifetime.
In this power game played by Mark Emmert and his band of thugs in starched shirts and tailored blue suits, a good kid like Chris Walker is being held hostage.
|
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 18:37:28 GMT -5
From the Gainesville Sun - they need to do an article that will be picked up nationwide instead of a Hoops Scoop:
Hoops Scoop Billy D hopes NCAA will do ‘right thing’ with Chris Walker Monday, January 13, 2014 at 6:09 by Kevin Brockway
The Chris Walker saga is closing on its first month, with “Free Walker” hashtags popping up on Twitter from Florida fans eager to see the McDonald’s All-American freshman power forward hit the court.
To date, Walker has sat out six games since enrolling at UF. The 6-foot-10 forward from Bonifay has been practicing with the Gators since Dec. 16, but has yet to be cleared for competition by the NCAA, presumably due to his ties with AAU coach Matt Ramker. According to unconfirmed reports, Walker may have received financial assistance from Ramker in a recruiting visit. The NCAA and UF have refused to comment on specifics of the holdup, citing student privacy issues.
When asked about Walker on Monday, Donovan responded: “Right now, I have hope and optimism that a kid that has been totally forthright and honest and has given everything he possibly could, that you know, the NCAA will do the right thing, so to speak.
“I’m not involved with it. I said earlier, our administration, I totally trust them. I trust them to handle it. I think it’s probably one of those situations where you’ve got a very high-profile player that’s having to sit out and miss games. I’m not at liberty to talk about all the things that are going on with him, for one because I don’t know all those things and, two, it’s more of a school issue. It doesn’t really concern us as far as our coaching staff or our team. It’s stuff that our institution is handling, and you just have hope and optimism that the NCAA is going to sit there and say, you know what, this kid sat out some games. He’s been forthright, he’s been truthful and we’re going to get to a speedy decision on this thing.”
But Donovan said he’s received no indication from UF administrators that Walker will be available for the Gators on Tuesday night.
“When it will get decided, when it will happen, I don’t know,” Donovan said. “I know a lot of people want to find out. But the hardest part of it is, as we all mention, is that I think people look at different cases, situations in the NCAA, and a lot of times there’s different rulings on situations where ‘How come this guy got penalized more than this guy got penalized? This guy got nothing, this guy got this.’
“I think a lot of times, those are the things where it’s not just one standard. And the one theme has been, in my opinion, be truthful, be honest. And I think I can say at least from our school’s perspective, they feel like Chris has done that and that’s all we’re asking for.”
|
|
Enter your message here...
Godlike Member
|
Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 14, 2014 21:28:44 GMT -5
I believe this if it happens - it may mean FSU doesn't have the space for him since that has been Trn's complaint and he'd rather be at UF than Miami: January 12th, 2014 04:30pm Jackson solid to Florida, uncle says by Zach Abolverdi J.C. Jackson has been committed to Florida for more than seven months. (Photo by Zach Abolverdi/The Gainesville Sun) For the past few months, the actions of Immokalee athlete J.C. Jackson have suggested his commitment to Florida is one that won’t last. He has taken four trips to Miami, scheduled an official visit to Florida State and been unwilling to discuss the status of his UF pledge at times. However, one of his family members says he intends to sign with the Gators. Jackson’s uncle, Duke Rice, called The Sun this weekend to let it be known where his nephew stands with his recruitment. “J.C. is ready to shut it down,” Rice said. “He’s tired of the process and all these interviews. His mind is made up on Florida. He doesn’t want to go to Miami or Florida State. He wants to go to Florida. He told me that.” Since the decommitments of Dalvin Cook and Ermon Lane, Jackson has been expected to follow suit because of his previous comments that he would like to play with them in college. But their decisions will not influence him, according to Rice. “He called me the other day,” Rice said, “and told me, ‘I don’t care what they do. That’s them. I’m my own man.’ “So he’s going to do what’s best for him. I know that he’s never been a follower his whole life.” The Under Armour All-American still plans to visit to FSU this month with his uncle, but Rice insists the trip isn’t an indication of Jackson wavering. “He’s a kid and just wants to enjoy himself,” Rice said. “It’s a free visit to go have fun for a weekend. He also went (on official visits) to Miami and Minnesota, and he isn’t going to those schools. He wants to go to Florida. That’s where his heart is.” I still think Jackson ends up at FSU...I really don't give a hoot what his uncle says.
|
|
That's TrnYerHeadnCough...
"Champion Douche -- 2012 AND 2013"
Back to Back...they may have to retire the contest...
"Bowl Champion Douche --2012-2013"
Get it right.
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Now THIS here...is a member
|
Post by canefan on Jan 14, 2014 23:25:56 GMT -5
So turn, does Pruitt baling affect any defensive recruits?
|
|
Enter your message here...
Godlike Member
|
Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 14, 2014 23:31:51 GMT -5
I think it takes us out of it for Marlon Humphrey, and may effect McClain...a DE recruit. I think most are taking a wait-and-see approach to who we hire.
Sent from my XT907 using proboards
|
|
That's TrnYerHeadnCough...
"Champion Douche -- 2012 AND 2013"
Back to Back...they may have to retire the contest...
"Bowl Champion Douche --2012-2013"
Get it right.
|
Woah, this is a default personal text! Edit your profile to change this to what you like!
Deleted
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 9:16:20 GMT -5
I believe this if it happens - it may mean FSU doesn't have the space for him since that has been Trn's complaint and he'd rather be at UF than Miami: January 12th, 2014 04:30pm Jackson solid to Florida, uncle says by Zach Abolverdi J.C. Jackson has been committed to Florida for more than seven months. (Photo by Zach Abolverdi/The Gainesville Sun) For the past few months, the actions of Immokalee athlete J.C. Jackson have suggested his commitment to Florida is one that won’t last. He has taken four trips to Miami, scheduled an official visit to Florida State and been unwilling to discuss the status of his UF pledge at times. However, one of his family members says he intends to sign with the Gators. Jackson’s uncle, Duke Rice, called The Sun this weekend to let it be known where his nephew stands with his recruitment. “J.C. is ready to shut it down,” Rice said. “He’s tired of the process and all these interviews. His mind is made up on Florida. He doesn’t want to go to Miami or Florida State. He wants to go to Florida. He told me that.” Since the decommitments of Dalvin Cook and Ermon Lane, Jackson has been expected to follow suit because of his previous comments that he would like to play with them in college. But their decisions will not influence him, according to Rice. “He called me the other day,” Rice said, “and told me, ‘I don’t care what they do. That’s them. I’m my own man.’ “So he’s going to do what’s best for him. I know that he’s never been a follower his whole life.” The Under Armour All-American still plans to visit to FSU this month with his uncle, but Rice insists the trip isn’t an indication of Jackson wavering. “He’s a kid and just wants to enjoy himself,” Rice said. “It’s a free visit to go have fun for a weekend. He also went (on official visits) to Miami and Minnesota, and he isn’t going to those schools. He wants to go to Florida. That’s where his heart is.” I still think Jackson ends up at FSU...I really don't give a hoot what his uncle says. But, but, but what about the space? I agree. I might have bought his dog and pony show if the kid had made the comments. I count an open spot in the class until his LOI is sent, received, and accepted on NSD by UF.
|
|