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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 9:54:09 GMT -5
Tim Tebow's home in Jacksonville - at $1.4 million for 6500+SF it seems like a good deal since it's on waterfront: nesn.com/playlist/tim-tebows-14m-mansion-features-luxurious-sundeck-billiard-room-photos/1/I really like the master bath shower. I'm not sure having the cooktop surrounded by brick instead of counter space is functional, but having an island counter directly across should help. I don't think a real cook would like it. I'm in to traditional brick housing. I like it a lot. Good for Tim. I am in the market for a new home and have been a looking at a lot of different styles, etc. The brick is very appealing to me, too and while I agree that the cooking area is a little weird, the kitchen as a whole is fantastic. Nice looking house for sure. Isn't stucco over concrete block the most prevalent siding in the Tampa Bay market? Post some pictures of what you like. I'd be interested to see them. While I'm not active anymore, I do have an interest in residential real estate.
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Post by beuycek on Jul 24, 2014 11:38:36 GMT -5
I am in the market for a new home and have been a looking at a lot of different styles, etc. The brick is very appealing to me, too and while I agree that the cooking area is a little weird, the kitchen as a whole is fantastic. Nice looking house for sure. Isn't stucco over concrete block the most prevalent siding in the Tampa Bay market? Post some pictures of what you like. I'd be interested to see them. While I'm not active anymore, I do have an interest in residential real estate. Yes, stucco over brick is very common but a lot of home builders have started using stone and brick more as accents. While I like brick, the stone accents are really appealing. Check out homesbywestbay.com and mihomes.com for two builders near by that really use a lot of stone on the exterior. Unfortunately both of those builders have joined in the idea that building as many houses in as small a space possible is the best approach. Sure, they make a lot more money but you can reach out a window and touch your neighbor's house. And if I am spending $300-$400K on a house, I want a yard to mow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 13:24:05 GMT -5
Isn't stucco over concrete block the most prevalent siding in the Tampa Bay market? Post some pictures of what you like. I'd be interested to see them. While I'm not active anymore, I do have an interest in residential real estate. Yes, stucco over brick is very common but a lot of home builders have started using stone and brick more as accents. While I like brick, the stone accents are really appealing. Check out homesbywestbay.com and mihomes.com for two builders near by that really use a lot of stone on the exterior. Unfortunately both of those builders have joined in the idea that building as many houses in as small a space possible is the best approach. Sure, they make a lot more money but you can reach out a window and touch your neighbor's house. And if I am spending $300-$400K on a house, I want a yard to mow. You could buy a lot and do a custom build to get what you want, but I'm sure the economy of scale works out that you can get more for less by using one of the regional/national home builders. The thing is I've never seen the 100% perfect home even when it has been custom built. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Post by canefan on Jul 24, 2014 20:53:00 GMT -5
Stucco over concrete block is just so traditional for Florida. For one reason, wood frames and such never held up well with he humidity we have and they really take a beating along the coast with the salt in the air. What is the market in Tampa like now days. Things have changed so much since we moved ten years ago. We built in Polk County in 1989, 4500 square feet on about .7 of an acre for about $220,000. Ten years ago we bought this house east of Orlando and gave $350,000 for 3400 sq feet on a .25 acre lot and no pool, which we had to put in ourselves after closing.
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Post by beuycek on Jul 25, 2014 5:34:39 GMT -5
Stucco over concrete block is just so traditional for Florida. For one reason, wood frames and such never held up well with he humidity we have and they really take a beating along the coast with the salt in the air. What is the market in Tampa like now days. Things have changed so much since we moved ten years ago. We built in Polk County in 1989, 4500 square feet on about .7 of an acre for about $220,000. Ten years ago we bought this house east of Orlando and gave $350,000 for 3400 sq feet on a .25 acre lot and no pool, which we had to put in ourselves after closing. Depending on the area, you would expect to pay around $105 - $115 sq ft. The market is definitely on the upswing, which is never more evident than in the bulk of new construction taking place. Within about 8 miles of my house, I count at least 11 new developments being built. That would usually drive prices down in existing neighborhoods but given the small lots they are putting these new houses on, it is actually the reverse in a lot cases.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:39:14 GMT -5
Stucco over concrete block is just so traditional for Florida. For one reason, wood frames and such never held up well with he humidity we have and they really take a beating along the coast with the salt in the air. What is the market in Tampa like now days. Things have changed so much since we moved ten years ago. We built in Polk County in 1989, 4500 square feet on about .7 of an acre for about $220,000. Ten years ago we bought this house east of Orlando and gave $350,000 for 3400 sq feet on a .25 acre lot and no pool, which we had to put in ourselves after closing. Here in the Pensacola Bay area, builders have for years built stucco siding, hard coat or foam board, over wood framing. The following are the reasons I wouldn't own any stucco here: 1. Stucco is hard to keep water tight. Any penetrations through the stucco and miter joints of windows are famous for allowing water to get between the stucco and the framing. When the framing does get wet, it can take months to dry out as there is no air to dry it out before wood rotting sets in. Brick and other sidings allow air between the wood framing and the stucco which allows wet wood to dry out before wood rot occurs. Stucco looks pretty on the outside, but the repairs required to repair the water produced wood damage inside can be substantial. 2. When using hard coat stucco, expansion joints have to be used every 12 feet and above/below corners of windows and doors. When expansion joints aren't used, over time cracks develop in the stucco and 45 degree cracks occur at the corners of windows and doors. The cracks allow water penetration as they widen and spread. Ruttenberg Homes in our area is the worst about building with hard coat stucco and not using expansion joints. They give a 10 year home warranty with their homes, but all they do is nurse the homes to the end of the 10 year warranty when called out for repairs. After the home warranty expires, these owners are on their own to live with the inevitable expensive repairs of the future. Ruttenberg knows this, but they want their hard coat stucco to look like foam board that does not need expansion joints. Buyers actually prefer the hard coat stucco without expansion joints without the understanding of the future repair problems required. 3. Foam board stucco looks better, but it isn't as durable as properly installed hard coat stucco. While hard coat can go down into the below finish grade landscaping, foam board cannot. It's supposed to be stopped at a certain level above the finish grade landscaping, but the builders bring in down to construction grade and then fill up over if with the landscaping grade. The problem with this is the foam board acts as a wick to pull water up from the ground into the wood siding. The lack of durability is a result of the foam board inability to stand up to physical abuse. Weed whacker or other tools can easily gouge into the finish. The only way I'd own a stucco home is if it is built over concrete block. I've seen new construction homes in the Tampa Bay area that use concrete block for the first level and wood framing on the second floor. I wouldn't own that type of stucco construction either. I'd require complete concrete block exterior walls. As I said in the Tebow's home post, I'm more traditional and prefer brick siding. However, it is just as easy to used brick in contemporary home construction. Hardie plank siding, fiber cement, is another material I'd use in conjunction with brick if building a new home. Both allow you to use wood framing without the future repair bills headaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 9:53:02 GMT -5
Stucco over concrete block is just so traditional for Florida. For one reason, wood frames and such never held up well with he humidity we have and they really take a beating along the coast with the salt in the air. What is the market in Tampa like now days. Things have changed so much since we moved ten years ago. We built in Polk County in 1989, 4500 square feet on about .7 of an acre for about $220,000. Ten years ago we bought this house east of Orlando and gave $350,000 for 3400 sq feet on a .25 acre lot and no pool, which we had to put in ourselves after closing. Depending on the area, you would expect to pay around $105 - $115 sq ft. The market is definitely on the upswing, which is never more evident than in the bulk of new construction taking place. Within about 8 miles of my house, I count at least 11 new developments being built. That would usually drive prices down in existing neighborhoods but given the small lots they are putting these new houses on, it is actually the reverse in a lot cases. Does the $105 - $115 include the lot? If so, that is excellent so long as you aren't compromising quality. If you like your lot and location, have you thought about remodeling? So long as you don't overspend for the size of house and the neighborhood comp values, you would be fine.
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Post by beuycek on Jul 25, 2014 10:06:11 GMT -5
Depending on the area, you would expect to pay around $105 - $115 sq ft. The market is definitely on the upswing, which is never more evident than in the bulk of new construction taking place. Within about 8 miles of my house, I count at least 11 new developments being built. That would usually drive prices down in existing neighborhoods but given the small lots they are putting these new houses on, it is actually the reverse in a lot cases. Does the $105 - $115 include the lot? If so, that is excellent so long as you aren't compromising quality. If you like your lot and location, have you thought about remodeling? So long as you don't overspend for the size of house and the neighborhood comp values, you would be fine. Yes, lot included. As to your point about stucco over block. All one story homes I have seen being built are stucco over concrete. New energy saving tricks are to foam insulate the block which makes a world of difference in the summer. Two stories are almost always wood frame on the upper level (unless you are up in the $600k plus range) but rarely are they covered in stucco, instead builders opt for siding of some kind... generally vinyl. Having owned a two story built that way, I can tell you the upstairs becomes a sauna without a dedicated A/C unit or proper duct work to allow even ventilation throughout. In the "winter", the reverse is true. We are actually looking at both styles this time, some older construction (mid-80's and 90's) and others built in the last ten years. Given what you know about construction, anything in particular I should look out for in either time frame? Any and all information is appreciated as repairs are definitely not my forté.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 10:29:45 GMT -5
Does the $105 - $115 include the lot? If so, that is excellent so long as you aren't compromising quality. If you like your lot and location, have you thought about remodeling? So long as you don't overspend for the size of house and the neighborhood comp values, you would be fine. Yes, lot included. As to your point about stucco over block. All one story homes I have seen being built are stucco over concrete. New energy saving tricks are to foam insulate the block which makes a world of difference in the summer. Two stories are almost always wood frame on the upper level (unless you are up in the $600k plus range) but rarely are they covered in stucco, instead builders opt for siding of some kind... generally vinyl. Having owned a two story built that way, I can tell you the upstairs becomes a sauna without a dedicated A/C unit or proper duct work to allow even ventilation throughout. In the "winter", the reverse is true. We are actually looking at both styles this time, some older construction (mid-80's and 90's) and others built in the last ten years. Given what you know about construction, anything in particular I should look out for in either time frame? Any and all information is appreciated as repairs are definitely not my forté. The older homes, early 90s and back, won't likely be built to todays hurricane construction standards which use brackets and clips to keep framing together. I'd be concerned about older home wiring as well. I live in a home built in 1986. It has the old round robin wiring, room to room to room. From the mid 90s up, most home used home run wiring which is each room wired back to a centrally located electrical panel. The home run wiring is easier to maintain and easier to use as an interruption in the round robin wiring can take the rest of the rooms down too. As you get into newer homes, the state codes for windows are stronger. You get better strength and energy efficiency. On older homes, it can be harder and more costly to get home owner insurance coverage. If I were looking today, I'd concentrate my search from new to the last 15 to 20 years. I don't think I'd go back to the 80s again unless a premium location demanded it. In our case, we have an 86 built home that we are in the process of remodeling, but the location is excellent. Remember the first rule of real estate, location, location, location.
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Post by beuycek on Jul 25, 2014 10:39:45 GMT -5
Yes, lot included. As to your point about stucco over block. All one story homes I have seen being built are stucco over concrete. New energy saving tricks are to foam insulate the block which makes a world of difference in the summer. Two stories are almost always wood frame on the upper level (unless you are up in the $600k plus range) but rarely are they covered in stucco, instead builders opt for siding of some kind... generally vinyl. Having owned a two story built that way, I can tell you the upstairs becomes a sauna without a dedicated A/C unit or proper duct work to allow even ventilation throughout. In the "winter", the reverse is true. We are actually looking at both styles this time, some older construction (mid-80's and 90's) and others built in the last ten years. Given what you know about construction, anything in particular I should look out for in either time frame? Any and all information is appreciated as repairs are definitely not my forté. The older homes, early 90s and back, won't likely be built to todays hurricane construction standards which use brackets and clips to keep framing together. I'd be concerned about older home wiring as well. I live in a home built in 1986. It has the old round robin wiring, room to room to room. From the mid 90s up, most home used home run wiring which is each room wired back to a centrally located electrical panel. The home run wiring is easier to maintain and easier to use as an interruption in the round robin wiring can take the rest of the rooms down too. As you get into newer homes, the state codes for windows are stronger. You get better strength and energy efficiency. On older homes, it can be harder and more costly to get home owner insurance coverage. If I were looking today, I'd concentrate my search from new to the last 15 to 20 years. I don't think I'd go back to the 80s again unless a premium location demanded it. In our case, we have an 86 built home that we are in the process of remodeling, but the location is excellent. Remember the first rule of real estate, location, location, location. Thank you, sir. Hurricane standards are less of an issue as we are so far inland. It would take a very large hurricane and almost a direct hit for us to be trouble. That said, the energy efficiency is definitely a concern and one I have been focusing on quite a bit. How I would know what kind of wiring is in the house without tearing the walls apart? Not sure the sellers would be too keen on that happening just to make me happy. LOL I appreciate the info.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 11:05:09 GMT -5
Since Darrell lived there back in those days, he can probably tell you what the standard construction practices were during that time frame. An older builder or long-term realtor could probably help too.
I didn't address your HVAC concerns:
1. With todays new systems, you can have one appropriately sized unit with individual thermostats/dampers in each room. I don't know the cost, but it sounds heavenly.
2. For a two story home, the other option is to go with two units appropriately sized for upstairs and downstairs. When I custom built a home in 95, I used two units, one for each end of a 3000 SF single story home. We never had the hot and cold spots you get depending on the suns location. The house was always temperature balanced and comfortable. I would require this as a minimum for any two story home. I couldn't stand freezing the downstairs just to keep the upstairs comfortable like you do now. There is no way to reverse the hot air rising.
Moving can be highly stressful so try to make it fun. It'll be a more exciting and enjoyable experience.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 11:37:12 GMT -5
*****RUMOR ALERT***** There are rumors circulating that Florida and Texas are in talks about scheduling a home and home series. UF has a big fan base in Austin so the games would be well received by the Gator Nation. It doesn't hurt to have Will Muschamp, ex-Texas HC in waiting, and Charlie Strong, 18 years on UF's coaching staff, wanting to schedule a series. Where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I'm certain UF will want to keep the lid on this until if and when the games can be agreed to and announced. As an example, I heard rumors about UF playing Michigan in Dallas in 2017 months before the game was announced. Let's hope for a repeat on this rumor: www.burntorangenation.com/football/2014/7/24/5934809/texas-longhorns-florida-gators-home-and-home-football
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 11:49:20 GMT -5
Friday Night Lights (FNL) is tonight. List of the top recruits that will/might be attending:
Five-star defensive end Byron Cowart, five-star wide receiver George Campbell and four-star wide receiver Ryan Davis — all Tampa-area recruits — may stop by UF on their way home from visiting Florida State.
Top visitors
RB Ray-Ray McCloud III, 5-9, 176, Tampa Sickles
RB Jacques Patrick, Orlando Timber Creek, 6-1, 224
RB T.J. Simmons, Lakeland Christian, 6-0, 205 (UCLA commit)
RB Dexter Williams, Orlando West Orange, 5-11, 195 (Miami commit)
WR George Campbell, Tarpon Springs East Lake, 6-3, 183 (maybe)
WR Ryan Davis, St. Petersburg Lakewood, 5-10, 167 (maybe)
TE Camrin Knight, Tallahassee Lincoln, 6-4, 225 (UF commit)
OL Matthew Burrell, Woodbridge (Va.) C. D. Hylton, 6-4, 287
OL Martez Ivey, Apopka, 6-6, 270
OL Tyler Jordan, Jacksonville Bishop Kenny, 6-5, 270 (UF commit)
OL Jalen Merrick, New Smyrna Beach, 6-5, 295
OL Isaiah Prince, Greenbelt (Md.) Eleanor Roosevelt, 6-6, 270
OL Brandon Sandifer, Warner Robins (Ga.) Northside, 6-3, 332
DT Kendrick Norton, Jacksonville Trinity Christian, 6-2, 292
DT Fletcher Adams, Brandon (Miss.), 6-3, 260
DE Byron Cowart, Seffner Armwood, 6-3, 252 (maybe)
DE Reggie Walker, Ponchatoula (La.), 6-3, 230
LB Jeff Holland, Jacksonville Trinity Christian, 6-1, 225
LB Te'Von Coney, Palm Beach Gardens, 6-1, 222
ATH Jalen Julius, Orlando West Orange, 5-10, 175 (UF commit)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 12:06:33 GMT -5
Spurrier and Muschamp develop friendship and tradition of flying together to ESPN headquarters. I like the way SOS spurred Will on to beat the dawgs, errr poodles:
Wednesday July 23, 2014
Friendly Rivals: Muschamp and Spurrier Quickly Bonded
Gators head coach Will Muschamp has developed a good friendship with Steve Spurrier during his time at UF.
Scott Carter By SCOTT CARTER GatorZone.com Senior Writer
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The voice from the back of the building was unmistakable. The greeting style, too.
“Hey, there’s my man,’’ said the former Gators coach to the current one. “You ready to do some more talking?”
It was shortly after 6:30 a.m. Tuesday when Florida coach Will Muschamp walked through the front doors of Eagle Aviation at the Columbia (S.C.) Metro Airport. Inside, South Carolina head coach Steve Spurrier was waiting to hop a ride.
In what has become a tradition unlike any other in the Southeastern Conference, Spurrier and Muschamp fly up to ESPN headquarters together for the network’s annual Coaches’ “Car Wash,” a five-hour interview tour stretched across several ESPN platforms.
As Spurrier likes to say, the college football preseason is “talking season.”
The impromptu arrangement originated three years ago shortly after Muschamp took over the Florida program that Spurrier built into a national power in his 12 seasons as the Gators’ coach from 1990-2001.
The South Carolina business jet Spurrier normally flies on was in use for other reasons, so Spurrier called Florida officials to ask if he could catch a ride on the University Athletic Association plane.
Gators Athletic Director Jeremy Foley reminded ESPN radio host Paul Finebaum earlier this month that Spurrier is “always going to be the favorite son, and rightfully so.”
So you know the answer. Stop in Columbia to pick up the head ball coach.
Plus, while newly-minted SEC East rivals at the time, Muschamp called Spurrier shortly after he took the Florida job in December 2010.
“I told him the doors are always open unless we are playing South Carolina,’’ Muschamp said. “At the end of the day, he’s a Gator.”
When Muschamp made that call, he had bumped into Spurrier only a few days earlier in New York at the annual National Football Foundation awards. The phone call from Foley to discuss the Florida job was only days away, unbeknownst to Muschamp.
While Muschamp built his career as one of the country’s top defensive coordinators at LSU, Auburn and Texas, he didn’t know Spurrier that well other than the occasional meeting. Still, Spurrier was classic SOS at that chance meeting in a hotel lobby in New York.
“He came walking up to me and says, ‘Hey Will, you’ve done a great job as a defensive coordinator. You’re a lot better coach than you were a player,’ ’’ Muschamp said while laughing Tuesday. “And he meant it as a compliment in the way only he could say it. He says whatever is on his mind, and I appreciate that.”
In an age when friendly rivalries tend to take a backseat to the daily grind and pressures of coaching in the SEC, Muschamp and Spurrier have developed a genuine friendship over the past three and a half years.
When you strip them to their core, they have a lot in common.
“Will is a good guy, a good coach and a good family guy,’’ Spurrier said.
The obvious connection is that they both know the demands and expectations that come with being head coach at Florida. But beyond that, they grew up in the South and are quick to deliver a tangy one-liner dripped in a drawl. They both played in the SEC. They both are measured to some degree by their history with Georgia.
Spurrier despises the Dawgs and is beloved by Florida fans for the way he turned the rivalry in Florida’s favor. Muschamp, after a failed attempt to garner interest from Spurrier as a player, went to Georgia and never defeated the Gators. As Florida’s head coach, he is 0-3 against his alma mater.
At Florida, Spurrier’s teams quickly got out of the gate in his first three seasons and produced a 28-8 record from 1990-92. Muschamp is 22-16 in his first three seasons at UF, comparable to Spurrier’s 21-16 record in his first three seasons at South Carolina.
The Gators are coming off a down season, but Spurrier said Tuesday he doesn’t expect that trend to last.
“I think Florida is going to do well this year,’’ he said. “I sort of pick Florida and Mississippi State as a couple of teams that got a chance to have big years.”
For all their similarities, there is a one difference in their coaching backgrounds: Muschamp made his name as a defensive guru, and Spurrier is known for his offensive mind.
They share a mutual respect in part due to their varied philosophies.
“I’ve got great respect for Coach Spurrier,’’ Muschamp said. “How he does his job. What he’s accomplished. What he stands for. He’s a guy that’s always intrigued me as a coach. He’s a Hall of Fame football coach and it’s an honor to be able to talk to him about our profession and to build a friendship.”
As they traveled back and forth from Columbia to Bristol, Conn., together on Tuesday, the two chatted easily. At other times they went silent. Muschamp watched film on his laptop or read the newspaper. Spurrier brought the local newspaper on board and read it from cover to cover, and then consumed two other papers that were already on the plane.
While Muschamp recently returned from a Panhandle beach vacation with his family, Spurrier had just arrived back in Columbia on Monday night after playing in the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship in Lake Tahoe.
He shared a story about flying home on the same plane as former Gators running back Emmitt Smith and talking to Smith about how his decision to leave UF after his junior season worked out well for the NFL’s all-time leading rusher.
On the flight from Connecticut to South Carolina late Tuesday afternoon, the plane was diverted to Philadelphia for a two-hour delay due to a non-emergency mechanical issue. Spurrier rested on a couch while mostly watching ESPN show highlights of their visit. Muschamp sat nearby talking and texting on the phone.
Two guys hanging out until a new plane arrived.
Once they left Philadelphia and arrived in Columbia, Spurrier parted ways, tipping an airport worker for a ride to his car, which was at the aviation center across the airport from where the plane landed.
Before leaving, he shook Muschamp’s hand and offered a final word.
“Hopefully we’ll be battling for the division if we beat the Dawgs and those other teams,” Spurrier said.
“I hope so,” replied Muschamp.
And off they went.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 14:52:20 GMT -5
Rare things going on in recruiting - out of 9 commits, 2 are from Ohio:
UF lands offensive lineman commit
By Zach Abolverdi Correspondent
Published: Friday, July 25, 2014 at 1:50 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, July 25, 2014 at 1:50 p.m.
Florida coach Will Muschamp did something earlier this month that Urban Meyer did not do in his stay in Gainesville: land an Ohio recruit.
On Friday, he pulled it off again.
Two weeks after getting Cleveland linebacker Jerome Baker, the Gators picked up a verbal commitment from Cincinnati offensive lineman George Brown.
The 6-foot-6, 264-pound Rivals250 member chose UF over Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU and more than 50 other offers.
“I like everything about the school,” Brown said of Florida. “The campus is an amazing place. All the people there, not just coaches and players, they really care about you.
“And playing in the SEC is big. It's the best conference in the nation. You're playing against the best competition every week. That's just going to make me better and help me get ready for the NFL.”
The Gators now have nine members in their 2015 class. Baker and Brown will be the first Ohio recruits to sign with UF since DeShawn Wynn in 2002.
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