How a Blue-Collar Billionaire From Queens Became a Man of th

[dilligaf]

Nov 7, 2024 14:33:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 14:11:05 GMT -5 daleko said:

And FDR, JFK identified w the "common man". I guess I missed the context you were addressing.

Two other rich guys striking the pose and pretending they took showers at the end of the day instead of before it started.
I'm not impressed.
Blue collar, particularly hands-on, physical, blue collar labor has meaning that, unless you've done it, you would have a hard time understanding.

That must be why blue collar workers totally rejected Kameltoe in favor of a man who KNOWS how tough she has made their lives.

[Walter]

Nov 7, 2024 17:27:27 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Nov 7, 2024 14:33:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Two other rich guys striking the pose and pretending they took showers at the end of the day instead of before it started.
I'm not impressed.
Blue collar, particularly hands-on, physical, blue collar labor has meaning that, unless you've done it, you would have a hard time understanding.

That must be why blue collar workers totally rejected Kameltoe in favor of a man who KNOWS how tough she has made their lives.

If Trump delivers national policies that put the working class first instead the rich guys he actually promised to serve during the campaign, I'm all for it, and I'll give him all the props he deserves and start voting Republican. I don't give a shit who does it. Just do it!
But you and I both know that ain't going to happen.
He's purely transactional. Pay him, and he will help you. Don't and he won't. And guess who has the money to pay.

[dilligaf]

Nov 7, 2024 17:38:21 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 17:27:27 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

That must be why blue collar workers totally rejected Kameltoe in favor of a man who KNOWS how tough she has made their lives.

If Trump delivers national policies that put the working class first instead the rich guys he actually promised to serve during the campaign, I'm all for it, and I'll give him all the props he deserves and start voting Republican. I don't give a shit who does it. Just do it!
But you and I both know that ain't going to happen.
He's purely transactional. Pay him, and he will help you. Don't and he won't. And guess who has the money to pay.

Where were you when President Trump helped American workers the FIRST time around?   The working class already KNOWS that Trump is on their side and will do everything he can FOR them.
It is YOUR side who made life unbearable for American citizens for the past 4 years.   Will they now work WITH President Trump to fix America or will they continue their lying, hateful attacks on him?

We see how Democrats have destroyed your own state.
You should have been voting Republican all along.

[Walter]

Nov 7, 2024 17:55:08 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Nov 7, 2024 17:38:21 GMT -5 Walter said:

If Trump delivers national policies that put the working class first instead the rich guys he actually promised to serve during the campaign, I'm all for it, and I'll give him all the props he deserves and start voting Republican. I don't give a shit who does it. Just do it!
But you and I both know that ain't going to happen.
He's purely transactional. Pay him, and he will help you. Don't and he won't. And guess who has the money to pay.

Where were you when President Trump helped American workers the FIRST time around?   The working class already KNOWS that Trump is on their side and will do everything he can FOR them.
It is YOUR side who made life unbearable for American citizens for the past 4 years.   Will they now work WITH President Trump to fix America or will they continue their lying, hateful attacks on him?

We see how Democrats have destroyed your own state.
You should have been voting Republican all along.

1) Passing a tax cut that benefitted corporations and the rich wasn't putting the working class first. The rest of us got crumbs, and you redhats fought each other for the opportunity to kiss his ring for the pittance you received. Meanwhile the deficit skyrocketed.
2) Attempting to kill the Affordable Care Act, something that would affect more than half of all Americans isn't putting the working class first. It would help insurance companies and doctors and hospitals, but screw those with pre-existing conditions or those who have an inability to fully pay the premiums.

If he follows that path again, and we both know he will, he will earn my scorn.

[canefan]

Nov 7, 2024 18:10:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 17:55:08 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Where were you when President Trump helped American workers the FIRST time around?   The working class already KNOWS that Trump is on their side and will do everything he can FOR them.
It is YOUR side who made life unbearable for American citizens for the past 4 years.   Will they now work WITH President Trump to fix America or will they continue their lying, hateful attacks on him?

We see how Democrats have destroyed your own state.
You should have been voting Republican all along.

1) Passing a tax cut that benefitted corporations and the rich wasn't putting the working class first. The rest of us got crumbs, and you redhats fought each other for the opportunity to kiss his ring for the pittance you received. Meanwhile the deficit skyrocketed.
2) Attempting to kill the Affordable Care Act, something that would affect more than half of all Americans isn't putting the working class first. It would help insurance companies and doctors and hospitals, but screw those with pre-existing conditions or those who have an inability to fully pay the premiums.

If he follows that path again, and we both know he will, he will earn my scorn.

Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts

ICYMI: IRS Data: Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts
By Alex Hendrie
Americans for Tax Reform
Published September 22, 2020

The IRS has released 2018 Statistics of Income (SOI) data.

This data shows that middle income American families saw the biggest tax cut – measured as the percentage decrease in "total tax liability" between 2017 and 2018 – from the Trump-Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

Total tax liability includes federal income taxes as well as taxes listed on IRS form 1040 such as social security taxes on self-employment income and tax applicable to individual retirement arrangements (IRAs).

As the data notes, Americans with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 saw their tax liability drop by twice as much as Americans with income above $1 million:

- Americans with adjusted gross income (AGI) of $50,000 to $74,999 saw a 13.2 percent reduction in average tax liabilities between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of between $75,000 and $99,999 saw a 13.6 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of $1 million or above saw a 5.8 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018, less than half the tax cut seen by Americans with AGI between $50,000 and $100,000.

[Walter]

Nov 7, 2024 19:09:37 GMT -5 canefan said:

Nov 7, 2024 18:10:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

1) Passing a tax cut that benefitted corporations and the rich wasn't putting the working class first. The rest of us got crumbs, and you redhats fought each other for the opportunity to kiss his ring for the pittance you received. Meanwhile the deficit skyrocketed.
2) Attempting to kill the Affordable Care Act, something that would affect more than half of all Americans isn't putting the working class first. It would help insurance companies and doctors and hospitals, but screw those with pre-existing conditions or those who have an inability to fully pay the premiums.

If he follows that path again, and we both know he will, he will earn my scorn.

Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts

ICYMI: IRS Data: Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts
By Alex Hendrie
Americans for Tax Reform
Published September 22, 2020

The IRS has released 2018 Statistics of Income (SOI) data.

This data shows that middle income American families saw the biggest tax cut – measured as the percentage decrease in "total tax liability" between 2017 and 2018 – from the Trump-Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

Total tax liability includes federal income taxes as well as taxes listed on IRS form 1040 such as social security taxes on self-employment income and tax applicable to individual retirement arrangements (IRAs).

As the data notes, Americans with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 saw their tax liability drop by twice as much as Americans with income above $1 million:

- Americans with adjusted gross income (AGI) of $50,000 to $74,999 saw a 13.2 percent reduction in average tax liabilities between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of between $75,000 and $99,999 saw a 13.6 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of $1 million or above saw a 5.8 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018, less than half the tax cut seen by Americans with AGI between $50,000 and $100,000.

Using the 2024 tax brackets (using married filing joint)
$50-90K tax = 12% - A 13.2% reduction is 1.58% savings = $790 (at the min.)
Over $690K =37% - a 5.8% reduction is a 2.15% savings = $14,807 (at the min.).

You were saying?

Alex is bullshitting you and you're dumb enough to believe it.

[kaz]

Nov 7, 2024 11:53:41 GMT -5 Walter said:

I'd bet the farm that Donald Trump never worked a single minute at a blue collar job in his entire life. Not a single minute.
What a freakin' insult to anyone who did, or does.

This is one of the best things about the election results - seeing the dems come unglued.

[dilligaf]

Nov 7, 2024 18:10:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 17:55:08 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Where were you when President Trump helped American workers the FIRST time around?   The working class already KNOWS that Trump is on their side and will do everything he can FOR them.
It is YOUR side who made life unbearable for American citizens for the past 4 years.   Will they now work WITH President Trump to fix America or will they continue their lying, hateful attacks on him?

We see how Democrats have destroyed your own state.
You should have been voting Republican all along.

1) Passing a tax cut that benefitted corporations and the rich wasn't putting the working class first. The rest of us got crumbs, and you redhats fought each other for the opportunity to kiss his ring for the pittance you received. Meanwhile the deficit skyrocketed.
2) Attempting to kill the Affordable Care Act, something that would affect more than half of all Americans isn't putting the working class first. It would help insurance companies and doctors and hospitals, but screw those with pre-existing conditions or those who have an inability to fully pay the premiums.

If he follows that path again, and we both know he will, he will earn my scorn.

You already scorn him.
Guess what?  None of us here give a flying fiick about what YOU think.
You have the right to be as wrong as you want to be, and WE will continue to laugh at you.

[Panama pfRedd]

Nov 7, 2024 19:45:46 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Nov 7, 2024 18:10:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

1) Passing a tax cut that benefitted corporations and the rich wasn't putting the working class first. The rest of us got crumbs, and you redhats fought each other for the opportunity to kiss his ring for the pittance you received. Meanwhile the deficit skyrocketed.
2) Attempting to kill the Affordable Care Act, something that would affect more than half of all Americans isn't putting the working class first. It would help insurance companies and doctors and hospitals, but screw those with pre-existing conditions or those who have an inability to fully pay the premiums.

If he follows that path again, and we both know he will, he will earn my scorn.

You already scorn him.
Guess what?  None of us here give a flying fiick about what YOU think.
You have the right to be as wrong as you want to be, and WE will continue to laugh at you.

walter is just a pompous prick who thinks his idiotic opinions carry more weight than ours because of the way he tries to sound smart. He's not. He's dumb.

[dilligaf]

Nov 7, 2024 20:22:49 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Nov 7, 2024 19:45:46 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

You already scorn him.
Guess what?  None of us here give a flying fiick about what YOU think.
You have the right to be as wrong as you want to be, and WE will continue to laugh at you.

walter is just a pompous prick who thinks his idiotic opinions carry more weight than ours because of the way he tries to sound smart. He's not. He's dumb.

Book smart doesn't equate with LIFE smart.
Poor Wally has been gradually brainwashed over the years to think that Commiefornia and Demonrat leftist insanity is the norm.

[canefan]

Nov 7, 2024 19:22:09 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 19:09:37 GMT -5 canefan said:

Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts

ICYMI: IRS Data: Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts
By Alex Hendrie
Americans for Tax Reform
Published September 22, 2020

The IRS has released 2018 Statistics of Income (SOI) data.

This data shows that middle income American families saw the biggest tax cut – measured as the percentage decrease in "total tax liability" between 2017 and 2018 – from the Trump-Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).

Total tax liability includes federal income taxes as well as taxes listed on IRS form 1040 such as social security taxes on self-employment income and tax applicable to individual retirement arrangements (IRAs).

As the data notes, Americans with incomes between $50,000 and $100,000 saw their tax liability drop by twice as much as Americans with income above $1 million:

- Americans with adjusted gross income (AGI) of $50,000 to $74,999 saw a 13.2 percent reduction in average tax liabilities between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of between $75,000 and $99,999 saw a 13.6 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018.

- Americans with AGI of $1 million or above saw a 5.8 percent reduction in average federal tax liability between 2017 and 2018, less than half the tax cut seen by Americans with AGI between $50,000 and $100,000.

Using the 2024 tax brackets (using married filing joint)
$50-90K tax = 12% - A 13.2% reduction is 1.58% savings = $790 (at the min.)
Over $690K =37% - a 5.8% reduction is a 2.15% savings = $14,807 (at the min.).

You were saying?

Alex is bullshitting you and you're dumb enough to believe it.

Oh you poor dumb sum bitch. All "Alex" did was post the IRS data that was released. I've posted this from two or three different sources now and you are in complete denial. The actual data proves you are wrong. Deal with it.

[nu5ncbigred]

Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts



That’s the truth.

[mscott59]

Nov 7, 2024 22:31:51 GMT -5 nu5ncbigred said:

Middle Class Americans Saw Biggest Tax Reduction from Trump Tax Cuts



That’s the truth.

I'm middle class. the $10k cap on deductions for state/local income and property taxes has literally killed me since that was enacted.

[Walter]

Nov 7, 2024 20:58:30 GMT -5 canefan said:

Nov 7, 2024 19:22:09 GMT -5 Walter said:

Using the 2024 tax brackets (using married filing joint)
$50-90K tax = 12% - A 13.2% reduction is 1.58% savings = $790 (at the min.)
Over $690K =37% - a 5.8% reduction is a 2.15% savings = $14,807 (at the min.).

You were saying?

Alex is bullshitting you and you're dumb enough to believe it.

Oh you poor dumb sum bitch. All "Alex" did was post the IRS data that was released. I've posted this from two or three different sources now and you are in complete denial. The actual data proves you are wrong. Deal with it.

So...you were not a math major. That is evident. Thanks for confirming.
Those are YOUR numbers, Ding-Dong.

[canefan]

Nov 8, 2024 0:23:09 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:58:30 GMT -5 canefan said:

Oh you poor dumb sum bitch. All "Alex" did was post the IRS data that was released. I've posted this from two or three different sources now and you are in complete denial. The actual data proves you are wrong. Deal with it.

So...you were not a math major. That is evident. Thanks for confirming.
Those are YOUR numbers, Ding-Dong.

Yeah, I didn't major in math because of my score on the National Merit Test, 100th percentile in math. A five hour Algebra class with lab would only give me 2 hours credit due to my scores. So yeah, challenge me on math.
Now explain to me how my posting the actual IRS data, from three different sources over several months, makes it "my numbers." They have proven, during the Biden administration, that the middle class benefited the most from the Trump tax cuts. I know you don't like it but quit being a little bitch and man up for once.