The GOP/NRA 'Solution' for Parade Mass Shootings

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 7, 2022 22:57:28 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 7, 2022 20:05:04 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

We have to do what works, O'Chicken.  Good, old American "pragmatism."  The guns are the problem.  Other nations have comparable rates of mental illness and video game usage.

Every other advanced G-20 nation in the world has outpaced us by miles on this gun homicide crisis.

Republicons and the NRA have obstructed a solution to the American crisis for years.

Pragmatism means doing what can work in our country, not others. I gave you the ways to accomplish that: 1. Write laws that pass Constitutional muster. 2. Change the Constitution. Option 3 is go door-to-door and tell people to surrender their guns because you're a Harvard polymath.

Who said, "politics is the art of the possible?"

The main thing blocking a solution to America's gun homicide crisis is Republicon/NRA stupid, and the corporate M$M propaganda promoting the stupidity.

It's similar to the industry-funded Republicon/MAGA stupid disinformation denying climate change.

[oujour76]

Jul 8, 2022 10:56:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 7, 2022 22:57:28 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Pragmatism means doing what can work in our country, not others. I gave you the ways to accomplish that: 1. Write laws that pass Constitutional muster. 2. Change the Constitution. Option 3 is go door-to-door and tell people to surrender their guns because you're a Harvard polymath.

Who said, "politics is the art of the possible?"

The main thing blocking a solution to America's gun homicide crisis is Republicon/NRA stupid, and the corporate M$M propaganda promoting the stupidity.

It's similar to the industry-funded Republicon/MAGA stupid disinformation denying climate change.

Bismarck.

As for the rest…whine on. The road exists to reach your goals.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 8, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 8, 2022 10:56:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Who said, "politics is the art of the possible?"

The main thing blocking a solution to America's gun homicide crisis is Republicon/NRA stupid, and the corporate M$M propaganda promoting the stupidity.

It's similar to the industry-funded Republicon/MAGA stupid disinformation denying climate change.

Bismarck.

As for the rest…whine on. The road exists to reach your goals.

You're blocking the road to meaningful reform with your usual GOP disinformation-- as in the case of your climate change denial propaganda.

We can't solve a difficult problem without first acknowledging that it exists.

[oujour76]

Jul 8, 2022 14:11:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Bismarck.

As for the rest…whine on. The road exists to reach your goals.

You're blocking the road to meaningful reform with your usual GOP disinformation-- as in the case of your climate change denial propaganda.

We can't solve a difficult problem without first acknowledging that it exists.

What disinformation?

[AlaCowboy]

Jul 8, 2022 14:11:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Bismarck.

As for the rest…whine on. The road exists to reach your goals.

You're blocking the road to meaningful reform with your usual GOP disinformation-- as in the case of your climate change denial propaganda.

We can't solve a difficult problem without first acknowledging that it exists.

You also can't solve a problem if you misidentify the problem. You simply create different problems.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 8, 2022 15:13:20 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Jul 8, 2022 14:11:36 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

You're blocking the road to meaningful reform with your usual GOP disinformation-- as in the case of your climate change denial propaganda.

We can't solve a difficult problem without first acknowledging that it exists.

You also can't solve a problem if you misidentify the problem. You simply create different problems.

Multi-variate analyses have proven that the gun homicide crisis in the U.S. is, essentially, the result of the prevalence of easily obtainable guns.

Other G-20 nations have comparable rates of mental illness and video game usage.  Their homicide rates are low.

We have to get rid of the guns to solve our epidemic of gun homicides.

The disinformation is the GOP/NRA propaganda denying that gun prevalence is the problem.  

[oujour76]

Jul 8, 2022 15:22:29 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2022 15:13:20 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

You also can't solve a problem if you misidentify the problem. You simply create different problems.

Multi-variate analyses have proven that the gun homicide crisis in the U.S. is, essentially, the result of the prevalence of easily obtainable guns.

Other G-20 nations have comparable rates of mental illness and video game usage.  Their homicide rates are low.

We have to get rid of the guns to solve our epidemic of gun homicides.

The disinformation is the GOP/NRA propaganda denying that gun prevalence is the problem.  

How do you propose to get rid of the guns? You have zero pragmatic solutions. Rhetoric on how it’s done in Norway means nothing. Self congratulations claiming only you understand the issue also means nothing. To do what you want ultimately means changing the U.S. Constitution. There is a way to do that but thumping your chest about the NRA isn’t it.

[Panama pfRedd]

Jul 8, 2022 15:39:31 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 8, 2022 15:22:29 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Multi-variate analyses have proven that the gun homicide crisis in the U.S. is, essentially, the result of the prevalence of easily obtainable guns.

Other G-20 nations have comparable rates of mental illness and video game usage.  Their homicide rates are low.

We have to get rid of the guns to solve our epidemic of gun homicides.

The disinformation is the GOP/NRA propaganda denying that gun prevalence is the problem.  

How do you propose to get rid of the guns? You have zero pragmatic solutions. Rhetoric on how it’s done in Norway means nothing. Self congratulations claiming only you understand the issue also means nothing. To do what you want ultimately means changing the U.S. Constitution. There is a way to do that but thumping your chest about the NRA isn’t it.

The answer is right in front of his/her's/they's face... leave this country and go to any other G20 country. This is America. Love it or leave it. Or keep bitching about it like a whining bitch.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 8, 2022 15:39:31 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 8, 2022 15:22:29 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Multi-variate analyses have proven that the gun homicide crisis in the U.S. is, essentially, the result of the prevalence of easily obtainable guns.

Other G-20 nations have comparable rates of mental illness and video game usage.  Their homicide rates are low.

We have to get rid of the guns to solve our epidemic of gun homicides.

The disinformation is the GOP/NRA propaganda denying that gun prevalence is the problem.  

How do you propose to get rid of the guns? You have zero pragmatic solutions. Rhetoric on how it’s done in Norway means nothing. Self congratulations claiming only you understand the issue also means nothing. To do what you want ultimately means changing the U.S. Constitution. There is a way to do that but thumping your chest about the NRA isn’t it.

Well, we've already changed the 18th century slave owners Constitution in substantial ways, right?

They wrote the Second Amendment in the 18th century so that the U.S. government wouldn't take muskets away from their Southern slave patrol militias.

Meanwhile, how did Australia get rid of their guns and solve their mass shooting problem?

[oujour76]

Jul 8, 2022 19:24:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2022 15:39:31 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

How do you propose to get rid of the guns? You have zero pragmatic solutions. Rhetoric on how it’s done in Norway means nothing. Self congratulations claiming only you understand the issue also means nothing. To do what you want ultimately means changing the U.S. Constitution. There is a way to do that but thumping your chest about the NRA isn’t it.

Well, we've already changed the 18th century slave owners Constitution in substantial ways, right?

They wrote the Second Amendment in the 18th century so that the U.S. government wouldn't take muskets away from their Southern slave patrol militias.

Meanwhile, how did Australia get rid of their guns and solve their mass shooting problem?

This isn’t Australia.

[DrSchadenfreude]

The staggering scope of U.S. gun deaths goes far beyond mass shootings
www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2022/gun-deaths-per-year-usa/?itid=hp-top-table-main

July 8, 2022

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 8, 2022 20:19:03 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 8, 2022 19:24:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Well, we've already changed the 18th century slave owners Constitution in substantial ways, right?

They wrote the Second Amendment in the 18th century so that the U.S. government wouldn't take muskets away from their Southern slave patrol militias.

Meanwhile, how did Australia get rid of their guns and solve their mass shooting problem?

This isn’t Australia.

Geez... Harry finally posted a true statement.

Specious, but technically accurate.

[dilligaf]

Jul 8, 2022 20:19:03 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jul 8, 2022 19:24:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Well, we've already changed the 18th century slave owners Constitution in substantial ways, right?

They wrote the Second Amendment in the 18th century so that the U.S. government wouldn't take muskets away from their Southern slave patrol militias.

Meanwhile, how did Australia get rid of their guns and solve their mass shooting problem?

This isn’t Australia.

Australia did what is illegal in this country.

Australia also has a small population of 26 million, which amounts to 3.3 people per square kilometer. 

America has 300 million, with a population of density of 36 per Km², or 94 per square mile.

For the math-challenged morons like PsychoTheRapist, that is a HUGE difference.

If Psycho doesn't want a gun, that is his right.  He is not to be trusted with deadly weapons, anyway.   He would probably kill his neighbor over grass clippings.

The rest of us have OUR rights, too. 

[DrSchadenfreude]

Jul 9, 2022 13:27:07 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Jul 8, 2022 20:19:03 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

This isn’t Australia.

Australia did what is illegal in this country.

Australia also has a small population of 26 million, which amounts to 3.3 people per square kilometer. 

America has 300 million, with a population of density of 36 per Km², or 94 per square mile.

For the math-challenged morons like PsychoTheRapist, that is a HUGE difference.

If Psycho doesn't want a gun, that is his right.  He is not to be trusted with deadly weapons, anyway.   He would probably kill his neighbor over grass clippings.

The rest of us have OUR rights, too. 

Math challenged?   That's funny...   

I was a math ace, Deputy Screwball.

My calculus professor in college wanted me to major in math.

[daleko]

Jul 8, 2022 19:24:28 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Jul 8, 2022 15:39:31 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

How do you propose to get rid of the guns? You have zero pragmatic solutions. Rhetoric on how it’s done in Norway means nothing. Self congratulations claiming only you understand the issue also means nothing. To do what you want ultimately means changing the U.S. Constitution. There is a way to do that but thumping your chest about the NRA isn’t it.

Well, we've already changed the 18th century slave owners Constitution in substantial ways, right?

They wrote the Second Amendment in the 18th century so that the U.S. government wouldn't take muskets away from their Southern slave patrol militias.

Meanwhile, how did Australia get rid of their guns and solve their mass shooting problem?

Here's your path, your only path, to get to Australia. An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification. Get to work. Off course you'll say that can't be done because....... But that is the only way to become Australia. If it can't be done, iyo because.......... what's the point in even bringing it up?

Some have said if you want to reduce gun violence by a significant % , eliminate the Negro resident in the ghetto. Just as absurd and just as unconstitutional even immoral. But reduce it it would. There, off course, the answer is reduce the ghetto. Gun violence will drop as fast as a floor in the TT on 9/11. That wasn't free fall btw. Guns will then be a minimal issue. Along side that, deal w mental health. 

Re your wizened European communities, note Sweden. Though not yet to the statistic level of the USA, gun violence has exploded. Why? Due to gangs and neighborhoods in disadvantaged communities. Which have been ftmp created by accepting low level immigrants from the mideast. Shooting deaths had more than doubled between 2011 and 2019 and now account for 40% of violent deaths. While the numbers are lower, the trend is disturbing to those in Sweden. The comparison is obvious.